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3 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

 

But my point is that while you may see it as 'trivial' a lot of people are really passionate about GNR. Hence why they're on a forum, discussing them. I don't see this "constant barrage of negative posts from single posters" at all. I see a lot of discussions going on, involving a lot of different people. It's absurd to claim that dissenting voices stay silent - there are constant debates on here, about all sorts. 

I think what started this discussion was how different forums tend to attract different fans because people aggregate to forums with likeminded. So HTGTH will be more positive while gunsnfnroses (well, it is just a joke forum but still...) is negative, and this site has traditionally been something in-between. 

And I definitely see that positive voices get more and more rare here. I have to disagree on that one. MOSTLY because most fans don't think there is much to be positive about, right, but also because that with more and more of the people who still post here having turned rather negative, it sets a sour mood. And again, I am not at all saying it shouldn't be allowed, or that people are trolling, I am more finding it fascinating why people do it. I can't really fathom it. I understand that people get disappointed, I just don't understand the need to incessantly post about being disappointed.

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2 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

You continue to attempt to insult me, but I'm the one pushing it? Are you just posting jokes for lulz now? 

As far as being done with me, you're always welcome to use that block button :)

Are you kidding me? I am admitting that you perhaps not understanding my posts can be my doing because they are not always clear, and you still think I'm trying to insult you? Seriously?

I never used the block button because I think it's stupid, but I'm going to take you up on it. Blocked. 

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Just now, EvanG said:

Are you kidding me? I am admitting that you perhaps not understanding my posts can be my doing because they are not always clear, and you still think I'm trying to insult you? Seriously?

I never used the block button because I think it's stupid, but I'm going to take you up on it. Blocked. 

Fantastic, glad I could be your first :) <3 

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1 minute ago, SoulMonster said:

I think what started this discussion was how different forums tend to attract different fans because people aggregate to forums with likeminded. So HTGTH will be more positive while gunsnfnroses (well, it is just a joke forum but still...) is negative, and this site has traditionally been something in-between. 

And I definitely see that positive voices get more and more rare here. I have to disagree on that one. MOSTLY because most fans don't think there is much to be positive about, right, but also because that with more and more of the people who still post here having turned rather negative, it sets a sour mood. And again, I am not at all saying it shouldn't be allowed, or that people are trolling, I am more finding it fascinating why people do it. I can't really fathom it. I understand that people get disappointed, I just don't understand the need to incessantly post about being disappointed.

Well - it's usually spurred on by something. 

The band do a NITL Selects, it gets a thread, so people discuss it, and if they think it's shit they'll say it. So it seems all negative. But then you have a thread about, for example, the brief Coma leak and it's pretty much all positive. It SEEMS negative because a lot of the things they do at the moment are getting negative feedback. But it's  mainly all a reaction to something, rather than people just dropping in and saying negative stuff out of the blue. 

You can guarantee that if they dropped some new songs people would go WILD on here, probably regardless of the quality! 

I think your last point is crucial though - that you can't really fathom why people care so much. It's because GNR were always a really passionate band that came along in the formative period for many people. They always invited that level of passion, probably far more than any other of their peers. That's got it's plus side of course (so many people are still here for a band who really have done very little over the years) and maybe it's minus side (people getting really pissed off that the band seem to be intent on throwing things away). 

 

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46 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

Here again, you've attempted to call me a lair and then go on to suggest that I don't know how to have a discussion. Are these not attempted insults? 

And "you don't have to agree with me" is rich coming from the person who stops by the thread just to tell everyone that they have to be positive about GN'R 

That sounds very Irish.

"They were callin me a lair, mammy, so they were".

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1 hour ago, SoulMonster said:

Indeed we do :) I think GN'R got it when they managed to release UYIs in '91 and then - against all odds - CD in 2008. But surely we all see the direction it is heading? Don't get me wrong, I do expect more original music at some time, but I don't expect the band to ever get back to excite me as much as they did when I feel in love with the band. They might be able to continue doing passable live shows, but that's about as much as one can hope to get.

Most bands eventually die out. All bands do, actually. Some are just so popular they get to tour for longer than others despite not being as good anymore. But they are on life support. And that's fine.  All things must come to an end. I love it when people go to the shows and have a great time, though. Its fantastic! I would never criticize the band for being able to do that, still. Even if I personally don't get much excited. 

So I don't think the difference between us is in how we much, or little, we appreciate the shows. It is just that I am not bothered with it. I would have preferred if it wasn't so, but it is not like there isn't other live bands to see and it is not like my happiness stands or falls on the quality of a rock band.

All bands die eventually or they are on life support. I point you once more to Rush who retired, on the back of a great album and tour that the majority agreed was incredible. 

I don't think gnr are going to excite anyone with new material as much as you got excited after just discovering their now classic albums. That's an unrealistic bar. I do think they can release material that we all can enjoy... that's a realistic approach. They are now 30+yrs older and so are you, time has changed both the band and the fan it's an almost impossible moving target.

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1 hour ago, AxlSlashthebest said:

I see fire on this topic so I was so exiting that something really happen and it's just guys who have a "discussion" about nothing to do with a new album..............so why not speaking in MP ????? go away

lulwut....it's a forum for discussion. The fact that GN'R never follows through on relesing a new album was being discussed. 

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9 hours ago, EvanG said:

 

NITL shows. I have a friend who has been to 5 shows in two years. I have only been to one myself and that's enough, unless they put a new record out and start touring that one. But he still loves them and can't get enough. Good for him. I'm sure there are a lot of people who are still enjoying them. Merchandise. A lot of people like that crap. I personally don't care for it, but each to their own. Official YouTube live videos. For all the criticism it gets on here, there are people who are actually excited about those videos and enjoy them. I can go on, but someone like Russ is just going to laugh about it anyway and dismiss it. I guess the fact that this is positive for some people doesn't mean much to him, because he doesn't care about any of it.

 

Are you talking about the Selects? Those sounded horrific.

8 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

Just because a percentage of the fanbase likes those things doesn't mean the fanbase at large should be positive about them though. What everybody wants is music - just check out the comments on their social media.

I also went to 5 shows between 2016-17 and GNR is my favourite band... that doesn't mean I won't call them on their bullshit. The 2017 shows were a noticeable decline and it's only gotten worse since then. The Selects videos were rightfully mocked by the casual audience. Children's books and tasteless t-shirts appeal to a very, very small portion of GNR fans.

Meanwhile, Slash is getting ready to release his 2nd solo album since the reunion began. If anyone has a real reason to be positive, I guess it's Slash fans. :shrugs:

I'm really excited for the new SMKC record. I don't care so much about a GnR one now.

8 hours ago, Towelie said:

Some of you need to stop ass licking this pathetic band so much. No other major band has pulled the kind of shit GNR have since 1993. One album 94-2020 is downright lazy. It's only because they managed to capture lightning in a bottle from 87-93 that they have gotten away with the shit they have. 

Axl deserves to be called out for the fraud he is.

Yes I agree

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I think people should be able to post negative opinions, so long as they’re made in an adult and constructive way. This band is no where near as good as it was in the late 80’s early 90’s - FACT. But, it is still a fantastic experience seeing them live. 
 

Of course, arguments on the forums are inevitable when we have little to talk about. Heaven forbid a single drops so we actually have something to discuss!

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All i can say is lol....

Thankyou dead daisies for keeping rock albums going, plenty of albums out since chi dem.. And fun fact, slash played guitar on 1 track on first album, and fortus/reed/frank have all been either touring members or recorded in studio with the band. 

Prove me wrong team brazil...

Pry that epic state of grace and the general from axls cold, grumpy hands and share with the world... ✌😂😂

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10 hours ago, MaskingApathy said:

Are you talking about the Selects? Those sounded horrific.

That's subjective, though. I personally didn't care for all of them either. But my argument was that some people are positive about it, and the poster I reacted to was claiming that the band hasn't done anything positive for their fans and that is simply not true.

5 hours ago, gavgnr said:

I think people should be able to post negative opinions, so long as they’re made in an adult and constructive way.

The concept of a messageboard is to discuss topics and express opinions. This can be both positive and negative. If you go to a show and didn't like it and you want to express that, it's perfectly normal to do that on here. If the band releases some merch that you find laughable and you feel the need to let others know about it, it's perfectly normal to express that sentiment on here. Personally I don't feel the need to express my negative thoughts all the time, but hey... everyone is wired differently and that's okay.

However, there are posters on here, who I have seen making the same complaint dozens of times. In numerous threads they repeat the exact same negativism. That I don't understand. It's like a kid who didn't get what they wanted for Christmas and then complain and whine all year long about it and grab every opportunity to express the same thing. I'm not sure those posters even realize how repetitive they have become. And when you try to explain that to them, some of them even get offended!

But, I started using the block function. I have no idea why I didn't use it before! For anyone who gets tired of scrolling through the same negativism, just put the worst ones of them on ignore. Hopefully this will provide for a more pleasant forum experience, at least for me.

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6 hours ago, bumcheecksmcghee said:

All i can say is lol....

Thankyou dead daisies for keeping rock albums going, plenty of albums out since chi dem.. And fun fact, slash played guitar on 1 track on first album, and fortus/reed/frank have all been either touring members or recorded in studio with the band. 

Prove me wrong team brazil...

Pry that epic state of grace and the general from axls cold, grumpy hands and share with the world... ✌😂😂

The earlier Dead Daisies albums aren't that great imo but the new one (with Glenn Hughes and Doug Aldrich) is amazing. Not a bad song on it and it blows all the earlier ones with Fortus/Dizzy out of the water.

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17 hours ago, MaskingApathy said:

The earlier Dead Daisies albums aren't that great imo but the new one (with Glenn Hughes and Doug Aldrich) is amazing. Not a bad song on it and it blows all the earlier ones with Fortus/Dizzy out of the water.

I love em all... Jon stevens was a great first vocalist an local boy, and i thought corabi was good (as i actually prefer his vocals in crue for that 1 album) lol ?.. 

But yea at least its something... Where as this muppet is contained with appearances on scooby do so...?? Haha

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If you take you're eye off the Dead Daisies for as much as a minute, there is a line up change! I remember watching an interview with Fortus and Dizzy about the time of first/second album,  then next time I saw an interview it was with Corabi and Marco Mendoza! And now Glenn Hughes is in there. How on earth they manage to continue to spit out albums with that many changes is beyond me.

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18 hours ago, MaskingApathy said:

The earlier Dead Daisies albums aren't that great imo but the new one (with Glenn Hughes and Doug Aldrich) is amazing. Not a bad song on it and it blows all the earlier ones with Fortus/Dizzy out of the water.

damn right, the last dead daisies record is their best by far and the best rock record i head this year. Bassline is the catchiest rock tune out there! Glen killed it!!! and so did Doug

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6 hours ago, 19AT5 said:

If you take you're eye off the Dead Daisies for as much as a minute, there is a line up change! I remember watching an interview with Fortus and Dizzy about the time of first/second album,  then next time I saw an interview it was with Corabi and Marco Mendoza! And now Glenn Hughes is in there. How on earth they manage to continue to spit out albums with that many changes is beyond me.

They didn't intend for it to be a set lineup always.

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