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On 2/25/2021 at 3:44 PM, MaskingApathy said:

The earlier Dead Daisies albums aren't that great imo but the new one (with Glenn Hughes and Doug Aldrich) is amazing. Not a bad song on it and it blows all the earlier ones with Fortus/Dizzy out of the water.

Revolucion > Holy Ground > Burn It Down > The Dead Daisies > Make Some Noise.

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31 minutes ago, TheDemocracyRose said:

Fernando said we had nothing to worry about regarding new music this year... 🙃

Which (in Portuguese) kind of means, "don't keep waiting on it, when it happens, it happens".

What have we become my fellow GNR hardcore fans? A bunch of starving mules chasing a carrot!

What have we become?

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The last time Fernando said some thing about GN'R releasing new music was when he claimed that a 30 year old demo was "new music. 

Unless it has to do with children's books, UYI sweaters or nite lights, I wouldn't put any stock into what Fernando has to say one way or the other. 

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A friend of mine said the other day 'I thought GNR had split up again'......which makes me think whether that's the view people who aren't interested in the band have now? 

It also got me thinking- I wonder if in a lot of our minds they are sort of split up? With no activity going on whatsoever for over a year, and seemingly no prospect of it happening, it's only really the few shows that may happen that suggests they're still active. 

Are a band still active if they just get together and play some old songs every so often? 

I know some will say "obviously yes".....but, you know, these are boring times so I thought I'd throw the idea out for debate! 

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22 hours ago, allwaystired said:

A friend of mine said the other day 'I thought GNR had split up again'......which makes me think whether that's the view people who aren't interested in the band have now? 

It also got me thinking- I wonder if in a lot of our minds they are sort of split up? With no activity going on whatsoever for over a year, and seemingly no prospect of it happening, it's only really the few shows that may happen that suggests they're still active. 

Are a band still active if they just get together and play some old songs every so often? 

I know some will say "obviously yes".....but, you know, these are boring times so I thought I'd throw the idea out for debate! 

it's all relative I suppose. The Conspirators for example, clearly function as an active band even if the main goal of the band is to rock hard on stage. So even if Slash takes his time with his new album, the updates, little clips of new music, and the promise of an album that you know will come out in the not so distant future, do make it feel at least for me that for Gn'R, the live show has become everything.

Their main product is celebration of nostalgia and now that they can't tour, the only thing left for them to do is to release something.

I feel like if Axl wanted to release old shit like the Perfect Crime doc or new-ish shit like an album or at least communicated with fans, a good bluray, anything of high quality, it wouldn't feel as dead as it feels right now cause there is almost literally nothing new to discuss.

Whatever is happening with Gn'R (could be interesting, could be relevant) Axl doesn't seem to want to share anymore and after the backlash with Chinese,  it's a shame that it seems like he's playing it safe so we really have no way of knowing how active this band is currently without the ability to tour.

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30 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

A friend of mine said the other day 'I thought GNR had split up again'......which makes me think whether that's the view people who aren't interested in the band have now? 

It also got me thinking- I wonder if in a lot of our minds they are sort of split up? With no activity going on whatsoever for over a year, and seemingly no prospect of it happening, it's only really the few shows that may happen that suggests they're still active. 

Are a band still active if they just get together and play some old songs every so often? 

I know some will say "obviously yes".....but, you know, these are boring times so I thought I'd throw the idea out for debate! 

What if they break up again, Bucket and Brain return, they go back and finish what they started with the Village material and release a double album.

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Just now, Sweersa said:

What if they break up again, Bucket and Brain return, they go back and finish what they started with the Village material and release a double album.

Bucket didn't really want to do the Gn'R thing in the first place. Axl bribed him with a puppet. Top 10 Axl move, but I'm  grateful it happened cause it's not going to happen again.

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3 minutes ago, Sweersa said:

What if they break up again, Bucket and Brain return, they go back and finish what they started with the Village material and release a double album.

I'd be very much keen on that scenario! Not that it's remotely going to happen of course....but if it were to, it would be great. 

I do sometimes wonder if Slash was to leave again whether that would make new material more likely. Without him any draw they have as a nostalgia act is gone. 

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I don't thing they split up again. They can't tour right now, but when they can, they will be back on stage.

Another thing is releasing music... That is in Axl's hand, with or without tour and/or pandemic

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4 hours ago, allwaystired said:

I'd be very much keen on that scenario! Not that it's remotely going to happen of course....but if it were to, it would be great. 

I do sometimes wonder if Slash was to leave again whether that would make new material more likely. Without him any draw they have as a nostalgia act is gone. 

What, why, how!? The band has released one single album without Slash! The 2002 line up literally managed a few gigs and then split. In the 5 years before Slash rejoined the band, they were literally just touring. There was no new music, concert attendances were low and it didn't sound all that happy a camp. 

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2 hours ago, 19AT5 said:

What, why, how!? The band has released one single album without Slash! The 2002 line up literally managed a few gigs and then split. In the 5 years before Slash rejoined the band, they were literally just touring. There was no new music, concert attendances were low and it didn't sound all that happy a camp. 

Well, my thinking was that without Slash they'd simply HAVE to do or release something, as they'd have no other option. Touring would be of so little interest to people that it might force them to make progress in other areas. 

Just a theory obviously! I fully realise it would never happen! 

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9 hours ago, allwaystired said:

I do sometimes wonder if Slash was to leave again whether that would make new material more likely. Without him any draw they have as a nostalgia act is gone. 

I wonder about that myself. 

If such an event happens, I wonder if they would use the CD-era guitar work from Robin, Bucket, Bumble, etc. 

I know my opinion is not shared by many here, but on an eventual new album, I believe at least some of Robin and Buckethead's material will be intact on that work. Much like many parts and even solos on CD were by Buckethead who had left years prior to release. Most casual fans won't know the difference anyways.

Best case, if all instrumental work is re-recorded, Slash does the Robin/DJ parts, and 4tus does the Buckethead parts. I hope they keep Brain on the drums like they did most of CD, but who knows. Frank will probably have a bigger presence on the next album. I didn't mind his work on CD, but it's really hard to replace Brain, who replaced Josh. What a mess of an album it will be, I fear. 

If the next album is CD2 material heavy (which I assume it is) many of the songs will be 15-20+ years old, so it will be worse than 2008's CD from an overproduction cut and paste standpoint, that is unless they strip the overly complex stuff down a bit, who knows. I would very much prefer they leave CD2 alone and do their own album, maybe turn both into a double album release. That would be a cool transition into the current lineup from an album standpoint. 

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9 hours ago, allwaystired said:

I'd be very much keen on that scenario! Not that it's remotely going to happen of course....but if it were to, it would be great. 

I do sometimes wonder if Slash was to leave again whether that would make new material more likely. Without him any draw they have as a nostalgia act is gone. 

Well, it would take a huge blow out for Slash to consider leaving, so I think it's very unlikely... but still possible. IF he did leave GNR would never release anything again, and I wouldn't be confident that Axl would continue on without him. I think Axl prefers how people like him now, so going it alone and having people say he pushed Slash out for a 2nd time probably wouldn't be high on his list at his age, and with his current healthy bank balance.

Basically outside of some all encompassing CD era release 30 years from now, I really can't imagine hearing most of the material Axl has... there's still a chance he gets a flood of enthusiasm and releases the lot... but it's unlikely. OR he PMs me here and sends me a link to his google drive🤞🤞🤞🤞

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1 hour ago, Sweersa said:

I wonder about that myself. 

If such an event happens, I wonder if they would use the CD-era guitar work from Robin, Bucket, Bumble, etc. 

I know my opinion is not shared by many here, but on an eventual new album, I believe at least some of Robin and Buckethead's material will be intact on that work. Much like many parts and even solos on CD were by Buckethead who had left years prior to release. Most casual fans won't know the difference anyways.

Best case, if all instrumental work is re-recorded, Slash does the Robin/DJ parts, and 4tus does the Buckethead parts. I hope they keep Brain on the drums like they did most of CD, but who knows. Frank will probably have a bigger presence on the next album. I didn't mind his work on CD, but it's really hard to replace Brain, who replaced Josh. What a mess of an album it will be, I fear. 

If the next album is CD2 material heavy (which I assume it is) many of the songs will be 15-20+ years old, so it will be worse than 2008's CD from an overproduction cut and paste standpoint, that is unless they strip the overly complex stuff down a bit, who knows. I would very much prefer they leave CD2 alone and do their own album, maybe turn both into a double album release. That would be a cool transition into the current lineup from an album standpoint. 

Well, if Slash leaves again, it's over.

And with all due respect, they (Axl) really can keep his CD 2 shit. The window for that is closed. He had 6 years to release that shit. If they do a new album with Slash, I want nothing of that crap and certainly no recordings of other musicians on it (wouldn't they have to pay those other musicians if they put out the stuff they've recordet?). I want a new album, played from scratch, by the people who are in the band now. Otherwise it's just better they keep on touring on the old stuff and release nothing at all.

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11 hours ago, Sweersa said:

What if they break up again, Bucket and Brain return, they go back and finish what they started with the Village material and release a double album.

 

Since money is in touring more than albums, I think that the combo of a near-60 Axl without the people everyone wants to see in GNR in the form of Slash, would kill them off.  Axl was able to keep it going in the late-90s and early 2000s because after quite a few years of nothing his version of GNR was the closest anyone could get to the "real thing" (public perception wise)

But nobody would be interested in a version of GNR with a near-60 year old Axl without Slash when they have just had 5 years of nonstop Slash being in the band, beyond the hardcore fans here who would download the Village Session stuff in the first place

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5 hours ago, Sweersa said:

I wonder about that myself. 

If such an event happens, I wonder if they would use the CD-era guitar work from Robin, Bucket, Bumble, etc. 

I know my opinion is not shared by many here, but on an eventual new album, I believe at least some of Robin and Buckethead's material will be intact on that work. Much like many parts and even solos on CD were by Buckethead who had left years prior to release. Most casual fans won't know the difference anyways.

Best case, if all instrumental work is re-recorded, Slash does the Robin/DJ parts, and 4tus does the Buckethead parts. I hope they keep Brain on the drums like they did most of CD, but who knows. Frank will probably have a bigger presence on the next album. I didn't mind his work on CD, but it's really hard to replace Brain, who replaced Josh. What a mess of an album it will be, I fear. 

If the next album is CD2 material heavy (which I assume it is) many of the songs will be 15-20+ years old, so it will be worse than 2008's CD from an overproduction cut and paste standpoint, that is unless they strip the overly complex stuff down a bit, who knows. I would very much prefer they leave CD2 alone and do their own album, maybe turn both into a double album release. That would be a cool transition into the current lineup from an album standpoint. 

This sounds absolutely awful! A cut and paste jobs of songs recorded with musicians who have been out of the band for 20 years, who had zero connection sonically to the original GNR, updated with new contributions from current band, sprawled over a double album!? This does not sound a good idea!

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6 hours ago, allwaystired said:

Well, my thinking was that without Slash they'd simply HAVE to do or release something, as they'd have no other option. Touring would be of so little interest to people that it might force them to make progress in other areas. 

You could have made that argument at any point over the past 30 years. The reality is, one album in that time... and lots of touring in the past 15 years.

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