The "New Album" Thread . The maybe, possibly, at some point, soon, whenever, wtf Axl thread🤞

[shotsfired cro]

3 hours ago, guitarpatch said:

When the only detail of criticism is “sounds like shit”...

glad you figured 

[shotsfired cro]

3 hours ago, RussTCB said:

Ah, OK... It was just your usual gibberish about how you don't like Frank. Got it. 

Commercials are how music is sold now. GNR almost did it with Chinese and the Harley Davidson ad, but it got switched to Paradise City for some reason. 

My biggest hope about anything happening soon is that the next show is involved with the Super Bowl hype. I'm clutching at straws but I'm hoping that means they've got some sort of deal with the NFL for promotion of new music. 

Ok Frank the click, what are you buthurt now about!? 

you didn't get the basic, I explained it and now you feel bad for not understanding the basics?   its ok, if you didn't learn preautomated drum parts for 15 years, on eversame setlist, I didn't expect you will get / understand what said in that upper post, still, no reason to be offensive.

as long as you hear the clicks...

Edited January 25, 2020 by shotsfired cro

[shotsfired cro]

3 hours ago, RussTCB said:

Ah, OK... It was just your usual gibberish about how you don't like Frank. Got it. 

Commercials are how music is sold now. GNR almost did it with Chinese and the Harley Davidson ad, but it got switched to Paradise City for some reason. 

My biggest hope about anything happening soon is that the next show is involved with the Super Bowl hype. I'm clutching at straws but I'm hoping that means they've got some sort of deal with the NFL for promotion of new music. 

  again...it is the basics...pretty selfexplanetory causing the problems 

[Sydney Fan]

6 hours ago, GnR Chris said:

When did the band have to teach Frank what tempo to play in? I'm genuinely curious. GNR plays a little more up-tempo now versus the studio recordings or old live stuff. That's a band decision. That isn't "teaching" Frank to play in tempo.

Through 2016 and early 2017 tours. It was duff and slash coaching frank during soundchecks and early rehearsals how to play certain AFD/illusion  songs at a certain tempo/speed. Frank was even using a click track or menotrome to during the early tours.You could see duff interact with frank onstage and messaging him to speed up in certain songs. Especially during the first NA 2016 tour. Im sure there has been interviews where this has been mentioned.

Frank has improved alot diring the last tour and i noticed this especially when the band played locomotive.

Edited January 25, 2020 by Sydney Fan

[Blackstar]

From an interview Frank did last year:

"I do use a click at the start of some songs but just to get us going. Duff and I have the grooves on lock down now. Count four and we are running." [SA Drummer, April 2019]

[axlvai]

We need the Stinson thing to get an old drummer on GnR again.

 

[Amaya]

Frank is their hired drummer. He has played GnR songs for longer than Stevie and Matt. Frank came as a package deal of the main owner of the band, Axl. Duff, Slaah agreed to this staff. AFTER 5 years, it is all on autopilot.  It is not hard for a prifessional musician to learn and play others music. No like Steve who was in the writing process during hus GnR cds. No, not like Matt who was in the writing process  during his GnR cds. The music is already written. All Frank had to do was mesh with Duff. Yes, Frank is different. Steve and Matt are too. All 3 guys are  good with different spin. It is like cooking Chicken fettuccine. Old recipe we none wrote,  created. All tasty, but different variations.    NOTE.  My opinion. I am knocking any of you or Frank, Steven, or Matt. I am knocking Axl, Duff, Slash. 30-35 year old songs. All the owners of GnR needed to do was instruct their staff how they wanted the music  done. 

[Amaya]

I am not a musican.  Steve's band does really well, good on time, full sound  with GnR songs. I loved Miles and band with Slash  on , I think, Rocket Queen. I thought Steven and Miles did FANTASTIC on RRHofF.  Old songs  that hired people  just play on ain't rocket science. Again, I am taking a pot shot at Axl,Duff,Slash. 

[RussTCB]

2 hours ago, shotsfired cro said:

  again...it is the basics...pretty selfexplanetory causing the problems 

I wish you had any idea what you're talking about. That would be a great starting point for discussion. Then again, you're not interested in a discussion. You're just interested in attempting to troll me, failing, then resulting to insults. But carry on, I guess? 

[DownUnderScott]

14 hours ago, Sydney Fan said:

So duff and slash are happy to do another 4 year tour without doing any gnr new material knowing they are creative and the amount of instrumentals etc axl is sitting on and would like to expand the gnr discography?. Im sure deep down duff and slash know what the gnr name means to fans, even if axl doesnt.

Exactly, that’s what I mean. I think the frustration of treading water for years and years will get to Slash and Duff. They do know that time waits for no man, or band, and that I’m reasonably sure that those dudes would love to create, release, and tour on the back of, new music to enhance the GnR legacy before they are too old or dead. 
 

Sure they have their side gigs, and I love SMKC, but after many albums released that may become stale one day. 

[Tom2112]

3 hours ago, shotsfired cro said:

Ok Frank the click, what are you buthurt now about!? 

you didn't get the basic, I explained it and now you feel bad for not understanding the basics?   its ok, if you didn't learn preautomated drum parts for 15 years, on eversame setlist, I didn't expect you will get / understand what said in that upper post, still, no reason to be offensive.

as long as you hear the clicks...

What in the shite are you raving about? Maybe take a day off from the forum? I think you need some fresh air  

[WhazUp]

3 hours ago, shotsfired cro said:

Ok Frank the click, what are you buthurt now about!? 

you didn't get the basic, I explained it and now you feel bad for not understanding the basics?   its ok, if you didn't learn preautomated drum parts for 15 years, on eversame setlist, I didn't expect you will get / understand what said in that upper post, still, no reason to be offensive.

as long as you hear the clicks...

This is what it looks like when you are having a stroke but really need to insult GNR's drummer online so you power through it

[MaskingApathy]

15 hours ago, Sydney Fan said:

Absoloutely true. I think i now get why slash has recorded all of SMKC next album....this is his plan b if things fall through with new music. There is no way slash and duff can continue playing the same old setlist.

It's not recorded yet, they've just written the songs (or most of them).

15 hours ago, DownUnderScott said:

It’s funny and sad that Duff has said that he created and recorded Ozzy’s new album in 4 days but can’t get Axl to do anything at all in as many years. And Ozzy sounds great. I think if 2020 goes by without a new album then I hope Slash and Duff say goodbye to Axl and get on with their lives. They’ve made enough money. Time to retire and bury Guns n’ Roses for good. 

That would be nice but I don't think either of them will leave now. Duff doesn't have much going on musically otherwise and Slash needs the money to pay Perla.

14 hours ago, Sydney Fan said:

This will be unpopular but SKMC i do like. But LTD was boring and slash needs to be pushed creatively now.

I like SMKC based on,

1. The band cameraderie. The way he is onstage with this guys, in terms of chemistry, is different to gnr. I personally think hes not satisfied with the gnr lineup. I think its frank or mel. Maybe both. During the illusion tours and VR they didnt need to "teach"sorum what tempo to play in. Unlike frank.

2. He has complete creative control and has no dependancy on anyone. Slash calls the shots.

I think it's Frank. But yes, the chemistry in SMKC is way better and you see it on stage. Also the LTD songs sounded great live, better than the album. Their albums are good but they've always been more about putting on a great live show.

13 hours ago, Blackstar said:

Speculating is entertaining (and free), but many times when we do it we forget that Slash and Duff know Axl (and they've known him for a long time and better than many other people) and we don't. They know what Axl is like, how he works and that he overthinks things, so they knew what they would have to deal with when they reunited. I'm also sure that Duff prepared Slash for the specifics he'd have to deal with, Axl's current mindset, TB etc., and that's probably how the "initiative" to play CD songs came about. Plus, they're big boys now. I think they all want the reunion to work (Axl included). So, even if the situation is not ideal for Slash and Duff in regards to new music, they'll stick around and there's no way it'll be 1994-96 again. 

This doesn't mean that Slash and Duff are the same as Fortus and Dizzy, and that Slash has taken over Fortus' role in interviews (which seems to be a popular opinion on here). With all due respect to the people who believe that (and to Richard himself), they're way off in understanding the history and the dynamics of the band, imho, if they think that Slash's word is as worth and has the same leverage as Richard's. Sure, it always comes down to Axl in the end, because Axl can't be forced to do anything (including releasing music) - not by Slash, not by TB, not by the label or anyone else. But that's how it's always been at least since 1988 (if not since 1985). At most, probably, if he's in a positive state of mind, motivated and trusts someone, he can listen to opinions and be influenced. Hopefully, he's in in such state of mind now.

Slash is not being Fortus. He's being Slash and does what Slash always did when in Guns N' Roses in regards to interviews, always being the one who did the most press (and literally having done thousands of interviews over the years): he's not speaking for himself, but for the "collective GnR mindset; which, a lot of times, was Axl's mindset (like with the trilogy videos or the 1992 big band, for example) that Slash and Duff agreed upon in order to keep things going. The only exception of that was 1995-96, when Axl and Slash were fighting or not talking to each other, and Slash was speaking for himself and antagonizing Axl in public. 

So the current mindset is, likely, that Axl (in classic Axl fashion) is overthinking what to release and how to release it in order to be successful and make an impact; and that's what Slash is expressing, putting it through a filter, in the interviews.

I agree, good analysis.

[jacdaniel]

Is the Miami show going to be the first “all new show” show? I don’t generally keep up to speed on tour dates but I see this is kind of a one off show. 
 

I think we’ll get a better idea of GNR 2020 after that show/weekend. 

[ToonGuns]

On 25/01/2020 at 11:09 AM, WildStar said:

Well Aye

Played Trilliams myself a few times back in the day. Once saw Gazza in there, trying to avoid the papparazzi when he was supposed to be in rehab. 

[ShadowOfTheWave]

There is zero excuse not to play anything new. I don't understand how Axl doesn't get bored playing the same stuff for twenty years.

Edited January 26, 2020 by ShadowOfTheWave

[WildStar]

23 minutes ago, ToonGuns said:

Played Trilliams myself a few times back in the day. Once saw Gazza in there, trying to avoid the papparazzi when he was supposed to be in rehab. 

Oh yeah I saw Gazza in their too. Off his face. 

I also saw Gilby 

[ToonGuns]

1 minute ago, WildStar said:

Oh yeah I saw Gazza in their too. Off his face. 

I also saw Gilby 

It was a "Radge Against the Machine" geordie RATM tribute act night that I saw him if I remember correctly. With 5 bellies also, or whatever his name was.

[WildStar]

6 minutes ago, ToonGuns said:

It was a "Radge Against the Machine" geordie RATM tribute act night that I saw him if I remember correctly. With 5 bellies also, or whatever his name was.

I was at the Radge show. That must have been when I saw him. 

This trip down Trills memory lane is much more fun than the New Album mystery nonsense 

[El Guapo]

What do you guys think, can a new Guns N' Roses album suck? I mean, is it possible that after all this time and drama a new album really does get released and...is complete shit? Think Phantom Menace for example.

I think it could happen. Of course, the guys won't forget how to play their instruments, but all great music has one thing in common - Inspiration. 

So, if they take the easiest route and their hearts ain't in it the new album could very well end up a monumental turd imo.

[Coma16]

It'll be generic and bland (if Slash and Duff have their way). Hope I'm wrong...

[ShadowOfTheWave]

2 minutes ago, Coma16 said:

It'll be generic and bland (if Slash and Duff have their way). Hope I'm wrong...

I agree but if Slash reworks some of the CD II tracks at least we'll get to hear Axl's vocals/lyrics for those instrumentals.

[Coma16]

10 minutes ago, ShadowOfTheWave said:

I agree but if Slash reworks some of the CD II tracks at least we'll get to hear Axl's vocals/lyrics for those instrumentals.

I'll take what we can get....

[Rovim]

1 hour ago, El Guapo said:

What do you guys think, can a new Guns N' Roses album suck? I mean, is it possible that after all this time and drama a new album really does get released and...is complete shit? Think Phantom Menace for example.

I think it could happen. Of course, the guys won't forget how to play their instruments, but all great music has one thing in common - Inspiration. 

So, if they take the easiest route and their hearts ain't in it the new album could very well end up a monumental turd imo.

every Gn'R album was inspired, including Chinese imo. Inspiration or quality is not the problem. The only failure was to not release more music. I remember Axl saying before Chinese was released how he/they didn't want it to be like a Godfather 3 situation.

I don't think his high standards have changed much and even if they're older now, I still believe the 3 of them with the current line up can create and release a great Guns album.

[DarkLotus1111]

It's obvious that no new music will be played this January. Nothing is happening. No new music either and that Jarmo guy has zero creditability. I don't see why we're getting hyped for this like something is on its way. 

I bet you all.