rocknroll41 2,442 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jordan Rose said: Can you remember when he said something like "we hope to make music for many years to come?" (I always hate it when he says "we" instead of "I" cuz he sure weren't talking about Ashba and BBF. Yeah Bumble confirmed that serious talks for the reunion with Slash started right after he told Axl he was quitting, which was during the South America leg at the beginning of 2014 (before Golden Gods and Vegas). That’s why on the Golden Gods red carpet both Duff and Alice Cooper said a reunion could happen (and they both smirked like they knew something). And during his thank you speech that night, Axl thanked “all of our lineups.” He did the Revolver interview that same night. The reunion was already locked in by then. His talk of “we’ll look into maybe putting out the remix album and the second half of Chinese after Vegas” or whatever he said there was semi-bullshit. He probably saw a possibility in Slash being part of CD2 at that point, but here we are 6 years later, and that remains to be a reality. Edited January 31, 2020 by rocknroll41 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
starlight 1,148 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 There won't be a new album until it Is announced Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan Rose 903 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 38 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said: Yeah Bumble confirmed that serious talks for the reunion with Slash started right after he told Axl he was quitting, which was during the South America leg at the beginning of 2014 (before Golden Gods and Vegas). That’s why on the Golden Gods red carpet both Duff and Alice Cooper said a reunion could happen (and they both smirked like they knew something). And during his thank you speech that night, Axl thanked “all of our lineups.” He did the Revolver interview that same night. The reunion was already locked in by then. His talk of “we’ll look into maybe putting out the remix album and the second half of Chinese after Vegas” or whatever he said there was semi-bullshit. He probably saw a possibility in Slash being part of CD2 at that point, but here we are 6 years later, and that remains to be a reality. Good stuff. Can you remember who was going around at Vegas saying to people "this will be the last time you see this lineup?" Could have been someone like Jarmo or Saint Laurent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShadowOfTheWave 804 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jordan Rose said: Good stuff. Can you remember who was going around at Vegas saying to people "this will be the last time you see this lineup?" Could have been someone like Jarmo or Saint Laurent. When I met her (it all came straight from Del James), who told her: "This will probably be the last time you'll see this version of Guns N 'Roses for a while." The next thing she mentioned was that: "The people have spoken." I asked what Del was referring to, she said: "Axl and Slash." I do not know if this alleged conversation took place by phone, email or in person, but I asked her to go straight to the point. According to what she said, Axl reached a level in his life where he would try to leave the máguas aside and make peace with certain people in his life, apparently Slash is one of them. http://www.mygnrforum.com/topic/209126-rumor-some-members-may-be-out-of-the-band/?page=9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Towelie 3,529 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 3 hours ago, MaskingApathy said: That didn't work last time, nothing happened. Don't say I don't keep my promises. My junk: 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rocknroll41 2,442 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Jordan Rose said: Good stuff. Can you remember who was going around at Vegas saying to people "this will be the last time you see this lineup?" Could have been someone like Jarmo or Saint Laurent. I think Bumble told some people there that it was his last show. Also I recall someone saying they heard Frank backstage saying “I may need to look for new fulltime employment after this gig.” Guess he figured at the time that either Steven or Matt would fully replace him. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ratam 3,733 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 43 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said: I think Bumble told some people there that it was his last show. Also I recall someone saying they heard Frank backstage saying “I may need to look for new fulltime employment after this gig.” Guess he figured at the time that either Steven or Matt would fully replace him. You are very exactly about it happened! I remember same that you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hidin´Stradlin 16 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, rocknroll41 said: I think Bumble told some people there that it was his last show. Also I recall someone saying they heard Frank backstage saying “I may need to look for new fulltime employment after this gig.” Guess he figured at the time that either Steven or Matt would fully replace him. Yes. Bumble told some argentinian fans that Team Brazil was pushing for a reunion with Slash. I read that story when it happened in a latinamerican GNR forum. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MaskingApathy 2,339 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 6 hours ago, Towelie said: Don't say I don't keep my promises. My junk: I meant that the last time you said that GnR didn't do anything different. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
agustingloger 143 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 I saw them twice in 2017 & 2018 and im gonna to se them in march at lolapallooza and Im happy for you're crazy... Yeah know all the complains but at the end of the day im happy I Will see axl and slash again 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
axljungle 37 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 5 hours ago, Hidin´Stradlin said: Yes. Bumble told some argentinian fans that Team Brazil was pushing for a reunion with Slash. I read that story when it happened in a latinamerican GNR forum. gnrla was a great site, I read it too. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan Rose 903 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 8 hours ago, rocknroll41 said: I think Bumble told some people there that it was his last show. Also I recall someone saying they heard Frank backstage saying “I may need to look for new fulltime employment after this gig.” Guess he figured at the time that either Steven or Matt would fully replace him. Courtesy of ShadowOfTheWave: When I met her (it all came straight from Del James), who told her: "This will probably be the last time you'll see this version of Guns N 'Roses for a while." The next thing she mentioned was that: "The people have spoken." I asked what Del was referring to, she said: "Axl and Slash." I do not know if this alleged conversation took place by phone, email or in person, but I asked her to go straight to the point. According to what she said, Axl reached a level in his life where he would try to leave the máguas aside and make peace with certain people in his life, apparently Slash is one of them. http://www.mygnrforum.com/topic/209126-rumor-some-members-may-be-out-of-the-band/?page=9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dangelus 165 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 That’s me signing off until there’s any kind of announcement that this band has any future. Sadly I think I may be done forever. Joke band. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cc4rhu 14 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 On 26/01/2020 at 12:50 PM, ToonGuns said: Played Trilliams myself a few times back in the day. Once saw Gazza in there, trying to avoid the papparazzi when he was supposed to be in rehab. Saw a number of great bands in Trillians. Off to see Guns 2 Roses tonight at the Academy. Michael Bruce from Alice Cooper played twice and enjoyed both although the sound fucked on one of the nights. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MildlyArtistic 763 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 If there's one thing the lack of new music, last night's show, and the past couple years of tour legs have shown, it's that Guns N' Roses is a spent force at this point. Now that the initial excitement of Slash and Duff being back in the band has worn off, we're just left with a band going through the motions with a frontman on autopilot whose voice is totally shot. The only releases we're getting out of this lineup anytime soon are probably gonna be Conspirators albums, Duff solo projects, and whatever Dizzy and Richard put out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
guitarpatch 551 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, MildlyArtistic said: If there's one thing the lack of new music, last night's show, and the past couple years of tour legs have shown, it's that Guns N' Roses is a spent force at this point. Now that the initial excitement of Slash and Duff being back in the band has worn off, we're just left with a band going through the motions with a frontman on autopilot whose voice is totally shot. The only releases we're getting out of this lineup anytime soon are probably gonna be Conspirators albums, Duff solo projects, and whatever Dizzy and Richard put out. They’ll continue to do just that as long as the pay is the same. This band doesn’t need to release an album. The people who are attending don’t want to hear it If they release anything, it will be because they want to on a artistic level, or to try and fulfill their contract so that they can try other endeavors Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Azifwekare 1,697 Posted February 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 1, 2020 They added You're Crazy to the set. I bet the people who didn't believe there would be an "all new show" feel like dumb assholes now. lol jk fuck this band 4 2 1 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jafeijo 199 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 For me the only sad part these days is the way Axl is letting himself go. And that goes artistically and physically. For me it's just plain sad to watch him like that, as if he's got nothing left in his tank. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Towelie 3,529 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 41 minutes ago, guitarpatch said: If they release anything, it will be because they want to on a artistic level Guns N Roses don't have an artistic level. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ShadowOfTheWave 804 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 What are the sources for Caram's quote on GNR needing a new album in 2020? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattyIce3924 40 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Theory: They (Axl and Slash) are doing this never ending touring loop because they’re scared that if it stops they won’t be cohesive enough anymore to grind out an album. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finck2006 119 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 Im done! This band became pathetic 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LandOla 203 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 This is sad as fuck. I've loved this band since 1993. Kept following the forums weekly, if not daily, since the early 2000's. Waited for Chinese, listened the leaks as they came by, bought the album. Liked some of it. Always hoped that Axl and Slash would reunite. Once they did, it was awesome. But now, the excitement is wearing thin. No new music. Nothing. When I saw the Snoop + Gnr photo it hit me the first time. These guys are getting old as fuck. Just call it a day if you're not planning to release any new material. Or at least come clean and stop fucking teasing us about it. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Pinball Wizard 116 Posted February 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) First off, let me start by saying I want a new guns n roses record. It is my all time favorite band, I started learning English with their songs, I wanted to have bands because of gnr and their songs even got me out of a few depression phases - one in particular where I tried to take my life away 3 times and catcher in the rye made me think things over. So yeah, Guns N' Roses is a big fucking deal in my book. No wonder I have 6 gnr related tattoos on my right arm. But as much as I love this band, I have to say it: they just "don't need" to release new music as far as they approach their business as they have been doing lately. I was talking to my best friend today (we've met at my old gnr message board and now I'm his little boy's godfather - another gift gnr has given me, by the way) and we were discussing this last show. They played cards with which they couldn't miss the game, yet managed to miss it every chance possible for some. But at the end of the day, 99% of the people there at the gig left with a good image of the concert, even with weak performances like sweet child, you could be mine, rocket queen and all those songs WE - THE CRAZY BASTARDS WHO WATCH THE BAND'S EVERY MOVE - are more than tired of cringing over the last few years. But when I was watching one of the streams last night and heard a few people booing the band when they got into Chinese democracy (which had a good performance, tbh) and then heard the same people going nuts after the train wreck that you could be mine has become, it made me realize: if I were at their shoes, would I bother? Imagine you're in your late 50's, making a shit load of cash for playing 30-year-old songs with very little effort KNOWING people are gonna like it regardless. Would you risk losing this reception/acception/sure money by changing that safe bet for something new that people are, probably, not going to be as interested in simply because it doesn't ring on them a blast from the past Golden years they lived with those tunes as their soundtracks? Gnr is a fucking phenomenon. You can't name a lot of bands with a catalog as small as gnr with such great songs that had impacted so many people during their prime. Yeah, Axl, Slash and Duff are back together. But imagine a new album written and recorded by them 33 years after appetite. They can't write about living dangerously in the streets of la because they are all old rich guys who get everything they want given to them on a silver platter. They can't write about more serious things they lived because "it doesn't sound like the most dangerous band in the world". People are lazy and laziness it THE way the public will receive a new album made by them, comparing the now with the then. And, guys, the "then" is unbeatable, because... people are lazy even for that. "I see you standing there, you think you're so cool, why don't you just fuck off?" Is a very powerful line to make people feel reckless inside their 3 piece suit, with a family to take care of and baby sitters to pay so you can go to a rock show and feel young for a couple of hours. Seriously, imagine gnr going serious and writing songs that reflect their actual experiences over the last few years. For the big public, would those songs be as good as the easy-fuckoff-attitute-rocknroll-fuckyeah they feel when they play the old stuff? And then, gnr throws some bones for the die-hard fans. We had coma, dead horse, locomotive, shadow of your love as some "deep cuts" to make us happy. But you can feel the general public's reaction to them. I remember being at an Aerosmith concert and me and 3 of my friends were the only ones going NUTS when they played Kings and Queens, chip away at the stone and rats in the cellar. But when they played I don't wanna miss a thing, damn, the stadium went down. Sorry for the long post, but I had to take it out of my chest. Bands like gnr don't need to put an effort to release new music and risk losing 40k attendence per show during a tour if they have to replace the classics for new tunes the majority of the people won't care about. At least as much. Would they be ok to tour with the big three in 10k/15k arenas backing these songs that reflect more where they are today as artists and losing a lot of money in the process? Seriously, I don't think so. And I probably wouldn't too if I were on their shoes. Because the general feeling is "we don't need to prove ourselves anymore". If someone wants to risk something, go and release a solo record, play small clubs to have that rush and then come back to your day job at gnr to make more money to endorse your next project. It saddens me to write this. I hope gnr proves me wrong. You can talk the shit you want about the old-new line up of 2009/2010, but then they really wanted to prove something, there was something in the air, they were all giving their everything on the concerts (just watch Osaka 2009 and the brilliance that is if the world). I don't feel/see this fire anymore. It's like, "why bother?" It really turns me off. I'm gonna still follow the band as much as I can, I'm just not sacrificing anything in my life for it as long as things are this way. In a couple months they are playing Lollapalooza in sao Paulo, a 40-minute plane ride from Rio de Janeiro. But I see what they've been doing lately and I just don't want to give this destiny to my money, which only I know how hard I worked to earn it. Let gnr gets their easy cash by knocking someone's jollies for a change. If one day they decide to prove something again, I'm sure as hell I'll be there to support them, even if doesn't sound as good, but I'll respect it artistically. One of the main points that got me into gnr to begin with. Edited February 2, 2020 by Pinball Wizard Many, so many typos 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lilacmess 242 Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 3 hours ago, LandOla said: [...] When I saw the Snoop + Gnr photo it hit me the first time. These guys are getting old as fuck. Just call it a day if you're not planning to release any new material. Or at least come clean and stop fucking teasing us about it. I honestly believe they (Axl) are planning to release new material and always have. But that doesn't count for much in this case. Something will probably released someday. Soon is obviously not the word. As for needing a new album to continue touring? I don't think that's the case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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