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5 hours ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

Silkworms was not a throwaway, to Axl at least. Maybe in the eyes of fans, which is fair, but Axl played it live 4 times in 2001 and was always pretty excited about it, and said he wanted to release it as a single many times. I don’t think it was a throwaway in his eyes.

At the party in 2010 when the phone recording of The General was taken , Silkworms was also played and recorded, right? So definitely a song he always had plans for I'd have thought 

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11 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

I looked for the 8 codes in the gap between 42892 (Chinese Democracy) and 42902 (I.R.S) and they were never assigned - they are blank. It seems that more spots in the range were reserved (maybe for different versions/mixes), but never used.

Also regarding CD, I see that ISRC codes were assigned to different versions of the songs ("Version 2") in 2009. There are also assigned versions in 2008 that say "Do Not Use":

https://isrcsearch.ifpi.org/#!/search?artistName=Guns N' Roses&recordingYear=2008&tab=advanced&showReleases&start=0&number=100

Wasn't If The World also released before the album for that movie Body of Lies?

By that 2008 interview with Axl that you found a year ago, and how Shackler's is described as "Stereo version", I think it would be a safe bet to assume that those "Version 2" tracks would be the Blu-ray mix, which likely would mean a 5.1 surround sound mix that Axl wanted to release at some point.

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5 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

Wasn't If The World also released before the album for that movie Body of Lies?

By that 2008 interview with Axl that you found a year ago, and how Shackler's is described as "Stereo version", I think it would be a safe bet to assume that those "Version 2" tracks would be the Blu-ray mix, which likely would mean a 5.1 surround sound mix that Axl wanted to release at some point.

If it was the same as the album version of ITW in the movie, then it's the same ISRC code.

Shackler's Revenge is the only song that there's no assigned ISRC for "Version 2", but there is an ISRC for "stereoversion".

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4 minutes ago, GNRfanMILO said:

Also, the "Do Not Use" version of Better is 5:33 minutes long... and guess what, the unreleased official music video of Better is... 5:33 minutes long :lol:

Yes, the code prefix is USUV (UV = Universal Videos, I assume). The other "Do Not Use" is Chinese Democracy, also UV.

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28 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

I looked for the 8 codes in the gap between 42892 (Chinese Democracy) and 42902 (I.R.S) and they were never assigned - they are blank. It seems that more spots in the range were reserved (maybe for different versions/mixes), but never used.

Also regarding CD, I see that ISRC codes were assigned to different versions of the songs ("Version 2") in 2009. There are also assigned versions in 2008 that say "Do Not Use":

https://isrcsearch.ifpi.org/#!/search?artistName=Guns N' Roses&recordingYear=2008&tab=advanced&showReleases&start=0&number=100

Yup! Which is why I would caution everyone who sees 23 songs and thinks “Oh fuck yeah, double album!!!!” 
 

It could be similar “do not use” or live versions of YCBM for a specific physical release. Just be happy this more than likely means ALBUM.

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Wow - great find, fellas. The interesting thing I took from the ISRC Handbook quoted on the prior page is that these codes are only to be assigned after the mixing phase.  that's good in terms fo timing for a potential release.  Of course, this is gn'r we're talking about, so these songs may never be released at all.  

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Axl likes to tinker with stuff right until a deadline and even pushing those back on both CD and UYI. Unless a release is imminent I don't see them handing over finished mixes. It just doesn't make sense to me to hand them in NOW and not to be able to touch the recordings if the release is like 8 months away. Especially with Axls history of how he works.

So either this is really good news, or there's nothing to it at all.

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20 minutes ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

Axl likes to tinker with stuff right until a deadline and even pushing those back on both CD and UYI. Unless a release is imminent I don't see them handing over finished mixes. It just doesn't make sense to me to hand them in NOW and not to be able to touch the recordings if the release is like 8 months away. Especially with Axls history of how he works.

So either this is really good news, or there's nothing to it at all.

Pre Absurd I’d agree, but it doesn’t sound like there was any Axl tinkering with those (not counting the pre reunion parts of the songs). Sounds like Duff and Slash spend a few days tops on them, then they all called it a day

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2 hours ago, ZoSoRose said:

Silkworms as an opener would be what the fuck

Silkworms as an opener would mean Silkworms opens a new album. Opens a new album. A new album. NEW. ALBUM! :headbang:

 

 

What a let down this will be if it's dead end

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10 hours ago, jamillos said:

dude, it sounds like the good ole "the band doesn’t owe you anything". I mean, you don’t have to always defend them like we’re at htgth.

Yes, it does sound like that because that's exactly what it is. And this has nothing to do with GN'R specifically. NO fan of ANY artist should feel insulted when the artist decided to publish/release something they don't like/expected. First of all because that's entitlement of the first order, and secondly because that's being whiny children who can't take little disappointments.

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