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The "New Album" Thread - Susan McKagan says album is coming,"Universal database implies new album is coming because the numbers between Hard Skool and Absurd are missing"?


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Can anyone find a band on there who hasn’t released an album and has just released some singles, and see what the codes are for those?

Probably give some indication if they’re not in order that this is indeed meaningless 

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17 minutes ago, GNRfanMILO said:

Guns N' Roses has more subscribers on their YouTube channel (9,41M), than Iron Maiden (only 2,02M) and AC/DC (8,35).

Yet both bands get 3 or 4 times more views per single. GnR could easily have more views than both bands.

Fuck, even Metallica's EXTREMELY active YouTube channel has less subscribers (7,71M) than GnR's.

I still hold it down to marketing or both songs just didnt have replay value for alot of listeners. Bet most those gnr subscribers are there to watch scom or NR lol.

Casuals probably dont even know about the singles.

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31 minutes ago, gavgnr said:

So, ultimately, if this shit does actually mean anything the one thing we can be sure of is that it does NOT mean that a release is imminent.

Now there’s a fucking surprise.

 

But…this is GNR. Everything is done at the 11th hour. Look at 2008 with Chi Dem. Scraped wasn’t supposed to be on there and got swapped in last minute, which is why it has the last assigned number in that bunch. So, knowing the way this shit show operates, while I don’t know if “imminent” is a good word, I’d be surprised if this didn’t mean something’s been turned over. 
 

Any way you slice it, nothings official until we’re all hitting play on track 1. I still say this is positive.

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4 hours ago, 19AT5 said:

We are nearly at the 500 page mark without a single tangible update from the band themselves. People have resorted to checking the orbital paths of Mars and Jupiter, sacrificing loved animals to long forgotten pagan Gods, and indulging in the dark arts of record industry cryptography... all for clues of a pending new release from GNR, with a bunch of reworked songs most of the fanbase here already know! 

Ever get the feeling you've been lied to!!??

I, for one, am happy to contribute toward the goal of 500 pages of speculation! Maybe WAR is waiting for 500 to make a formal announcement. Ha.

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34 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Yes, and the Iron Maiden ISRC codes order is the album order, too. It doesn't seem to always be the case, though. On CD, for example, the album order is different.

I believe Ron Thal had mentioned Atlas had been finished but they couldn't fit it on CD due to runtime, and double albums are $$$ to produce. Maybe it's a case that it was submitted, but because it was not included it, Atlas has/had an IRSC with one of the missing numbers, but it was excised.

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7 minutes ago, Caedo said:

Can anyone find a band on there who hasn’t released an album and has just released some singles, and see what the codes are for those?

Probably give some indication if they’re not in order that this is indeed meaningless 

The two ABBA singles (that were released together as a dual single):

I Still Have Faith In You SE6XG2100101

Don't Shut Me Down SE6XG2100104

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Bullet For My Valentine:

Knives GMUM722102481 (release date 6/18/2021)

Shatter GMUM722102487 (release date 9/10/2021)

Rainbow Veins GMUM722102486 (release date 10/1/2021)

There are gaps in both cases.        

 

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If we’re looking for these numbers to confirm the album before it drops or is even announced, it’s just not reality. 
 

All this means is that It appears the TREND is that album tracks get lumped close together, and that’s what we’re seeing wrapped around Hard Skool and Absurd. That’s a good thing. But like I said, nothing other than the album dropping is going to CONFIRM any of this. Now it’s just a matter of perspective.

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1 hour ago, Blackstar said:

I'm not questioning what you say, but just for clarification:

1. Are you referring to the ISRC code or the UPC product release code? Because the ISRC codes seem to be assigned before a song/album is handed for distribution and they are not related to the release date.

2. When you say, "when I uploaded a complete album all the tracks correlate one after the other, if for example that album had a single that was uploaded months prior it will use that original ISRC," what do you mean exactly? That the single had, for example, an ISRC code ending in ...12 and the album tracks ended in ...13, ...14, and so on? Because if so, that's exactly what we've been talking about. Or do you mean that the songs you uploaded as an album had all the same code, which was the code of the single? In this case, it's the UPC code.

3. How do you explain the blank spots between Absurd and Hard Skool?

1. Im referring to my own experience doing this uploads and to the ISRC codes, and yes they are assigned to a digital track each time you send one to distribution. You can tell your distributor you want the track to be released in two weeks or 4 months, its up to the artist to decide (or label).

2.  I mean that if artist X release a single called "absurd" lets say october it will get its ISRC code, and if the same artist then sends to distribution a full album that has 10 tracks and 1 of them is "absurd" the other 9 tracks will recieve fresh new ISRC codes and the single "absurd" will use the same ISRC code it got when it was release first as a single that way the track can keep its streams and stats.  

3. I cant explain them for sure, I suppose other artists send their digital releases in between yours and get assigned other numbers maybe? 

 

Hope this helps, im rooting for a new album BTW! 

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13 minutes ago, Walapino said:

1. Im referring to my own experience doing this uploads and to the ISRC codes, and yes they are assigned to a digital track each time you send one to distribution. You can tell your distributor you want the track to be released in two weeks or 4 months, its up to the artist to decide (or label).

2.  I mean that if artist X release a single called "absurd" lets say october it will get its ISRC code, and if the same artist then sends to distribution a full album that has 10 tracks and 1 of them is "absurd" the other 9 tracks will recieve fresh new ISRC codes and the single "absurd" will use the same ISRC code it got when it was release first as a single that way the track can keep its streams and stats.  

3. I cant explain them for sure, I suppose other artists send their digital releases in between yours and get assigned other numbers maybe?

Hope this helps, im rooting for a new album BTW! 

Thank you for your response.

But, like I said in another post, it seems it's different in the case of indie bands with no label, where the ISRC code is assigned by the digital distributor when the music is submitted to them. But in the case of bands that are with a label, the labels assign the codes before the music is handed for distribution, like in the example of AC/DC: the codes were assigned in 2019, the singles and album were released in 2020, the code for the first single ended in ...43 and and the code for the second one ended in ...41.

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Just now, Blackstar said:

Thank you for your response.

But, like I said in another post, it seems it's different in the case of indie bands with no label, where the ISRC code is assigned by the digital distributor upon the songs/album are sent. But in the case of bands that are with the label, the labels assign the codes before the music is handed for distribution, like in the example of AC/DC: the codes were assigned in 2019, the singles and album were released in 2020, the code for the first single ended in ...43 and and the code for the second one ended in ...41.

Yes you may be right. It makes sense with ACDC they had the album ready to go by 2019 and then pandemic hit and ruined their original release plans and tour.  When you have a full album ready the ISRC codes are in correlation, as they are probably registered at the same time. With GNR Abusrd and Hard Skool were probably not registered digitally the same day thats why there is a gap, thats what I was trying to explain, in any case I hope the album comes out sooner rather than later! 

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8 minutes ago, Walapino said:

Yes you may be right. It makes sense with ACDC they had the album ready to go by 2019 and then pandemic hit and ruined their original release plans and tour.  When you have a full album ready the ISRC codes are in correlation, as they are probably registered at the same time. With GNR Abusrd and Hard Skool were probably not registered digitally the same day thats why there is a gap, thats what I was trying to explain, in any case I hope the album comes out sooner rather than later! 

I got you. But what do you think about the codes in the sequence between Absurd and Hard Skool that appear to be unassigned/blank? The issue we're dealing with here is not the gap itself, but the fact that the in-between codes are missing.

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Goddamn, I love you brilliant bastards for giving me hope by studying numbers. The depths we must go to try to cull information about a new record is beyond ridiculous, but also fun. I choose to continue to hope a new album is coming sooner rather than later.

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