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it looks like it's only a matter of time until another Guns album is released. Next year is perfect, they have no reason to wait if the album has been turned over and they want to release it and support it with a tour right away.

I get the feeling Axl is pleased enough with how it turned out, Slash and Duff seem to really have a positive effect on him so even if it doesn't happen next year, I'm still almost certain we'll get another official release in some form and that's amazing.

If Axl wants to continue to release the album piece by piece next year, I'm cool with that as well.

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12 hours ago, Blackstar said:

I got you. But what do you think about the codes in the sequence between Absurd and Hard Skool that appear to be unassigned/blank? The issue we're dealing with here is not the gap itself, but the fact that the in-between codes are missing.

Don’t laugh if this is an absolutely terrible question….what happens if you try to look for a code within the sequence? I take it the database (or whatever it is) doesn’t flag up it’s been earmarked for GNR….if that makes sense?

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35 minutes ago, DTJ80 said:

Don’t laugh if this is an absolutely terrible question….what happens if you try to look for a code within the sequence? I take it the database (or whatever it is) doesn’t flag up it’s been earmarked for GNR….if that makes sense?

It just says "no results found".

But based on the logic of ISRC codes assignment and on examples of other bands, it looks like these codes may have been reserved by Universal for future use.

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This is the database, for anyone interested:

https://isrcsearch.ifpi.org/#!/search

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28 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

It just says "no results found".

But based on the logic of ISRC codes assignment and on examples of other bands, it looks like these codes may have been reserved by Universal for future use.

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This is the database, for anyone interested:

https://isrcsearch.ifpi.org/#!/search

Cheers. Just a random thought that had popped into my head. I must admit - what you and others have deciphered just makes me even more sure it’s ‘when and not if’. And also adds weight to those who have said it’s actually been completed for a while. 👍

When I get on the PC later, I might have a look at the Wayback website and see what that database looked like in advance of the AC/DC and Iron Maiden releases….seeing as we know they were deffo recorded a few years ago and held back.

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6 hours ago, Rovim said:

it looks like it's only a matter of time until another Guns album is released. Next year is perfect, they have no reason to wait if the album has been turned over and they want to release it and support it with a tour right away.

I get the feeling Axl is pleased enough with how it turned out, Slash and Duff seem to really have a positive effect on him so even if it doesn't happen next year, I'm still almost certain we'll get another official release in some form and that's amazing.

If Axl wants to continue to release the album piece by piece next year, I'm cool with that as well.

They could be holding off until they are sure the tour is going to happen next summer.  With the COVID policies in some countries, it could be years until large gatherings are allowed with no risk of last minute cancellations due to "the numbers."

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19 minutes ago, klakly said:

I always thought that a real album would come out before the European dates, so around May 2022. But I read here that some people are talking about November. Why?

A November 2021 release is not impossible. 

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5 hours ago, DTJ80 said:

When I get on the PC later, I might have a look at the Wayback website and see what that database looked like in advance of the AC/DC and Iron Maiden releases….seeing as we know they were deffo recorded a few years ago and held back.

Might wanna get twa cans o' the Big Juicy in for that like! Has all the hallmarks of a wild night! Hahaha!

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31 minutes ago, Sweersa said:

A November 2021 release is not impossible. 

I mean, it's true. Artists drop albums digitally all the time with little to no promotion. Markedly different than 2008. But it would be cool!

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1 hour ago, klakly said:

I always thought that a real album would come out before the European dates, so around May 2022. But I read here that some people are talking about November. Why?

I saw November floated by some fan who said they had some inside info... I don't know, it seems unlikely, but not impossible. Biggest question from me is why go to to effort of a physical release of Hard Skool if you're releasing a full album in November. Clearly people are interested in rounding out their GNR collections, and maybe the EP is a very limited release? outside of that I feel like it's a waste of time.... especially when it receives zero promotion.

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1 minute ago, kever20 said:

I mean, it's true. Artists drop albums digitally all the time with little to no promotion. Markedly different than 2008. But it would be cool!

But there is a difference between artists like Beyonce, Saylor swift and even Bowie releasing surprise albums compared to GNR. 

If GNR did the surprise album and promoted half as well as Bowies album (once it was out) or the others then yeah! great idea! but if they release something without build and then don't promote the music then you're in the same scenario as this EP where half the fanbase have no idea there's new product out there!

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44 minutes ago, Gnrcane said:

They could be holding off until they are sure the tour is going to happen next summer.  With the COVID policies in some countries, it could be years until large gatherings are allowed with no risk of last minute cancellations due to "the numbers."

An album release won’t bring more people to the concerts. Release the album already (if it exists). 211126 seems fine to me. 

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5 minutes ago, drlaban said:

An album release won’t bring more people to the concerts. Release the album already (if it exists). 211126 seems fine to me. 

Yeah you may have a point there. That a new GNR album is not going to generate a massive increase in ticket sales, which is what they are all about now. But it might give them more press... if they did any. 

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18 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

I saw November floated by some fan who said they had some inside info... I don't know, it seems unlikely, but not impossible. Biggest question from me is why go to to effort of a physical release of Hard Skool if you're releasing a full album in November. Clearly people are interested in rounding out their GNR collections, and maybe the EP is a very limited release? outside of that I feel like it's a waste of time.... especially when it receives zero promotion.

Hardskool/Absurd physical release is really for the hard-core fans. From what I understand the lable isn't really involved and you can't purchase from anywhere except the band's store. I don't see it having any affect personally.

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55 minutes ago, Coma16 said:

Hardskool/Absurd physical release is really for the hard-core fans. From what I understand the lable isn't really involved and you can't purchase from anywhere except the band's store. I don't see it having any affect personally.

Good point!

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58 minutes ago, Coma16 said:

Hardskool/Absurd physical release is really for the hard-core fans. From what I understand the lable isn't really involved and you can't purchase from anywhere except the band's store. I don't see it having any affect personally.

Aye, you have a point there. Perhaps neither are on this mythical album that has been discussed for the past 499 pages! I would be okay with that.

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9 minutes ago, 19AT5 said:

Aye, you have a point there. Perhaps neither are on this mythical album that has been discussed for the past 499 pages! I would be okay with that.

I'd imagine that both definitely would be on the album. But who knows...

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9 minutes ago, Coma16 said:

I'd imagine that both definitely would be on the album. But who knows...

It would be pretty cool if the versions on the single are basically demos and we got new versions of both songs on the album with fresher, non 1999 vocals.

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3 minutes ago, jackparker123 said:

It would be pretty cool if the versions on the single are basically demos and we got new versions of both songs on the album with fresher, non 1999 vocals.

I happen to like the vocal tracks, I just wish the overall mixes were better. I would think an album from the label would be mixed better and properly mastered. 

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