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The "New Album" Thread - Susan McKagan says album is coming,"Universal database implies new album is coming because the numbers between Hard Skool and Absurd are missing"?


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On 11/5/2021 at 8:58 PM, vloors said:

Really they had 20 years to improve on mixes. If anything the mixes are worse than the original leaks lol Axl and Carams fault again.

My preference would be they spend time with a proper producer to go through the songs and get it mixed professionally. Do not let Caram or Axl touch producing or mixing of the album 😃

I wish they stuck with Sean Beavan. 

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3 minutes ago, Dean said:

Big fan of his mixes. Tommy evidently thought highly of him too as he mixed One Man Mutiny

I hope we one day get to hear the Beavan produced album as a bonus or a leak. I think we got fairly close with some of the Village leaks. 

I don't think it would be too hard to release a multi-disc CD era special edition after the next album drops, so it doesn't spoil that. 

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2 hours ago, Sweersa said:

I hope we one day get to hear the Beavan produced album as a bonus or a leak. I think we got fairly close with some of the Village leaks. 

I don't think it would be too hard to release a multi-disc CD era special edition after the next album drops, so it doesn't spoil that. 

This is my hope. A suitably priced CD boxset would be awesome…..doesn’t need to be grandiose or anything…just a simple box with vinyls and CDs! I know some folk think it would be a waste of money/not enough interest but if priced reasonably and manufactured in realistic numbers then absolutely there is a market. Take my money now!

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Just now, DTJ80 said:

This is my hope. A suitably priced CD boxset would be awesome…..doesn’t need to be grandiose or anything…just a simple box with vinyls and CDs! I know some folk think it would be a waste of money/not enough interest but if priced reasonably and manufactured in realistic numbers then absolutely there is a market. Take my money now!

Absolutely.....especially when you look at some of the boxsets that do get released. 

If there's a market for a boxset of Kim Wilde rarities or Dani Minogue remixes, then there is 100 per cent a market for Chinese era GNR. 

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2 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

Absolutely.....especially when you look at some of the boxsets that do get released. 

If there's a market for a boxset of Kim Wilde rarities or Dani Minogue remixes, then there is 100 per cent a market for Chinese era GNR. 

🤣 great examples!

But yeah, any reissue like this could be in tandem with reintroduced Vinyl copies and….a selection of different covers!!?! 🤯🥳

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34 minutes ago, DTJ80 said:

🤣 great examples!

But yeah, any reissue like this could be in tandem with reintroduced Vinyl copies and….a selection of different covers!!?! 🤯🥳

I'd love for that, I'd even settle for a 100% digital download with high res art.

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3 hours ago, Sweersa said:

I hope we one day get to hear the Beavan produced album as a bonus or a leak. I think we got fairly close with some of the Village leaks. 

I don't think it would be too hard to release a multi-disc CD era special edition after the next album drops, so it doesn't spoil that. 

McCartney has been reissuing his back catalogue for years. It allows to throw in alternate mixes, unreleased material and demos among other things while capitalizing on the fans wanting to spend money! 

The Guns back catalogue is out of print and fetches ABSURD sums, it’s easy money to even just reissue the albums themselves, but if they done deluxe boxsets with all of the bonus content, I’d throw my money at it, especially something Chinese related.

New album should be the main focus though!

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Why do you think there is going to be an album when there is simply no evidence of this happening especially since Slash has admitted they have not done anything musically together (after saying that they had).  I truly hope I am wrong we shall see.

 

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2 hours ago, DurhamGirl said:

Why do you think there is going to be an album when there is simply no evidence of this happening especially since Slash has admitted they have not done anything musically together (after saying that they had).  I truly hope I am wrong we shall see.

 

Slash said that he and Duff recorded a lot of material that Axl had, which is evident through the release of Absurd and Hard Skool this year. Everything else he said about music turned out mostly true, so there is no need to doubt him.

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4 hours ago, DurhamGirl said:

Why do you think there is going to be an album when there is simply no evidence of this happening especially since Slash has admitted they have not done anything musically together (after saying that they had).  I truly hope I am wrong we shall see.

 

He said he jammed with Duff and I think he said he jammed with Axl. He said he and Duff worked on a lot of existing material. He never admitted they haven't done anything together. Just that they didn't sit together as a band working on new material. From what he said there could be a full album of older songs like HS and Absurd which he and Duff reworked. 

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8 hours ago, jamillos said:

Which is exactly what I don't want. There has to be new music as well. 

as a Gn'R fan I'm desperate enough to not be picky at all about what kind of album/old or new/which players as long as it becomes a reality. A brand new album from this lineup would be great. To hear where the current line up is at right now artistically, but it seems that this is not going to be the case at least for this potential next release.

I think Axl won't focus on new material before he has a chance to finish what he started with the Chinese project and maybe he never intended to, reunion or no reunion so at least he's still interested in releasing more material and maybe in the future if we're extra lucky, the focus will shift to include more of Slash's vision as well but my motto when it comes to Gn'R is beggars can't be choosers.

We're dealing with a guy that has released 2 songs in the last 13 years from 20+ years ago.

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3 hours ago, Rovim said:

as a Gn'R fan I'm desperate enough to not be picky at all about what kind of album/old or new/which players as long as it becomes a reality. A brand new album from this lineup would be great. To hear where the current line up is at right now artistically, but it seems this is not going to be the case at least for this potential next release.

I think Axl won't focus on new material before he has a chance to finish what he started with the Chinese project and maybe he never intended to, reunion or no reunion so at least he's still interested in releasing more material and maybe in the future if we're extra lucky, the focus will shift to include more of Slash's vision as well but my motto when it comes to Gn'R is beggars can't be choosers.

We're dealing with a guy that has released 2 songs in the last 13 years from 20+ years ago.


You're right in all this, but none of it precludes them from putting both these segments on the album, which I keep saying here all the time. Axl would finally put his old demos to fruition, and at the same time they could show "they still got it" and include a couple of new songs that they've created as, you know, an actual band. I don't expect them to create an all-new album, but on the other hand, releasing just Axl's CD era shelf 20-year old demos wouldn't exactly be a cool and wise step to take.
This album could be a deal breaker in a way. Since it factually is a comeback album, I believe there'll be a way bigger pressure and focus on it than on any possible following records. And as such, since "they're back", they should accordingly (if just partially) show "hey, this is what we can do, we still got it", and not just "hey, this is what Axl was doing two decades ago, plus here's our contribution to it", you know what I mean? Hence it needs to include both these approaches. 

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3 hours ago, jamillos said:

Which is exactly what I don't want. There has to be new music as well. 

I would prever new music too, without a doubt, but to say Slash said there's no new album coming is simply wrong. 

Actually, what we've got now is probably the way they worked on November Rain. Old Axl material with Slash laying his guitar over the track. Maybe some changes here and there... I just hope Slash and Duff won't be biased by the recordings of the old members. Just take Axl's vocals and melodies and create your own song around that. If you know what I mean.

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1 minute ago, Free Bird said:

I would prever new music too, without a doubt, but to say Slash said there's no new album coming is simply wrong. 

Actually, what we've got now is probably the way they worked on November Rain. Old Axl material with Slash laying his guitar over the track. Maybe some changes here and there... I just hope Slash and Duff won't be biased by the recordings of the old members. Just take Axl's vocals and melodies and create your own song around that. If you know what I mean.

Yeah, as for Axl's songs, the ideal situation would be as what you describe - just give them melodies or a couple of basic chords at most and let Slash do his magic. Still, not the kind of "new song" that I have in mind. But better than just putting a guitar solo on an otherwise unaltered song (like the two singles). 
Yeah no, I don't think Slash said no new album is coming. 

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53 minutes ago, jamillos said:

Yeah, as for Axl's songs, the ideal situation would be as what you describe - just give them melodies or a couple of basic chords at most and let Slash do his magic. Still, not the kind of "new song" that I have in mind. But better than just putting a guitar solo on an otherwise unaltered song (like the two singles). 
Yeah no, I don't think Slash said no new album is coming. 

I really don't think that they would do it this way. I'm sure they have listened to the whole songs with all the guitar parts etc.

God, this is all so unsexy! :/ Why, why must it always be the worst way. :D I'm not excited at all about this approach and I think their "comeback album" will be a big fucking turd if this is all they can do. 

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17 hours ago, DTJ80 said:

This is my hope. A suitably priced CD boxset would be awesome…..doesn’t need to be grandiose or anything…just a simple box with vinyls and CDs! I know some folk think it would be a waste of money/not enough interest but if priced reasonably and manufactured in realistic numbers then absolutely there is a market. Take my money now!

Seriously not going to happen while Axl is alive. When he is dead, then certainly the floodgates may open with his estate capitalising in every way imaginable. There will be Mills & Boon books with Axl as the main character, GnR drones, secret recordings of Axl singing in the shower etc… 

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Hopefully they leave the CD stuff as intact as possible. I can't imagine them re-working Zodiac 13, for example. Amazing guitars. Same with Soul Monster.

I do like what Slash did with Hard Skool, and his work on Absurd is better than Bumble's playing over the demo, so maybe, just maybe he can perform suitably over Robin and Bucket's work.

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To me, the songs should either be completely redone by Slash and Duff or be left to be released by Axl at a later time as they were originally (although "originally" is relative here).

What I wouldn't want is Slash adding layers - but I don't think that's a possibility anyway.

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