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On 11/20/2021 at 10:10 AM, metalavenger99 said:

Any other guitar players here? Have you seen the rig rundowns?  i’ve personally never seen Fortus using killswitch technique or having one installed in his whole collection of guitars that he ‘s shown in all of the interviews, i think that BH is not credited because of those seconds were just saved as a sample.

Obviously Fortus is capable of installing a 15$ killswitch button and exactly replicate that sound so they don’t have to credit BH i guess but whatever that’d be weird

Dunno how relevant this is but.... 

You can fake a kill switch on a Les Paul for example. Turn the Rhythm volume all the way down, and while playing with the switch in the treble position you can flick the switch back and forth quickly to get the killswitch effect. 


 

 

 

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13 hours ago, agustingloger said:

I've seen it LIVE and i enjoyed it ... Watching from the internet i can skip it

glad you enjoyed it and I wasn't trying to be negative or take anything away from what Slash can do as a guitar player. I think he's still great and still delivers many brilliant live performances. It's just that for me, he's not as good as he once was at his peak. Could listen to him play for hours cause he was almost always inspired.

this shit happens to many guitar players as they age imo and Slash didn't stay at the same level of inspiration to my ears. He has improved his technique and still has many ideas as a composer but my favorite era of his improvisational playing was probably in the late 80's/ first half of the 90's.

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A lot of artists feel and touch and inspiration gets weaker due to 3 factors:

A) They live a lifestyle more comfortable, less challenging or threatening. That reflects to the emotional state and that reflects to art.

B) They are no longer functioning under the heavy influence of substances drugs that distort their perception and the feelings and the expression of the art.

C) They already achieved sucess and recognition for their art. So their drive/goal to succeed is no longer the same.

 

 

 

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29 minutes ago, jamillos said:

11/23 came and went...

do you think that these anniversaries mean something to Axl? genuine question. Me, I'm not so sure that they do. He released 2 songs while Gn'R was on tour. Maybe he wants to release new material only when they're touring/close to touring?

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33 minutes ago, Rovim said:

do you think that these anniversaries means something to Axl? genuine question. Me, I'm not so sure that they do. He released 2 songs while Gn'R was on tour. Maybe he wants to release new material only when they're touring/close to touring?

I'm sure the date means something to him, but from the little we know it's safe to say Axl might not look at the release of Chinese as a positive date... given the blunders with the booklet and general release marketing. Maybe he'd like his next release to have a space of its own. Spring/Summer would be better in my opinion and that creates a bit of buzz for summer touring. 

I'm not really expecting an album next summer though, but who knows how much work they've done or have to do!

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1 minute ago, Tom2112 said:

I'm sure the date means something to him, but from the little we know it's safe to say Axl might not look at the release of Chinese as a positive date... given the blunders with the booklet and general release marketing. Maybe he'd like his next release to have a space of its own. Spring/Summer would be better in my opinion and that creates a bit of buzz for summer touring.

yeah but it's like even the Appetite box set was released a year after the anniversary so even if it does have a meaning to Axl, I think it's possible that other factors could be more important to him, especially when it comes to new material like being able to support it with a tour, being satisfied with how the material turned out to be, etc.

and how could you be sure that this date means anything to him? we just can't know that imo. Slash seems to always prefer to release his albums in proximity to the start of a tour for example.

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14 minutes ago, Rovim said:

yeah but it's like even the Appetite box set was released a year after the anniversary so even if it does have a meaning to Axl, I think it's possible that other factors could be more important to him, especially when it comes to new material like being able to support it with a tour, being satisfied with how the material turned out to be, etc.

and how could you be sure that this date means anything to him? we just can't know that imo. Slash seems to always prefer to release his albums in proximity to the start of a tour for example.

Well he spent over 10yrs making an album and finally released it on that date... so it's reasonable to think when late November rolls around he thinks "that time of the year again"... but I don't pretend to know/understand the inner workings of Axls mind😄

I'd guess that Axl has ideas of what he wants to do, and then there's the labels idea of what they think is the right move. But being able to tour the record is probably a top 3 priority for Axl in agreeing to release material. How I think it goes... 1. he wants to be happy with the songs, mix/master, track order, Artwork, no 2. He wants a solid a detailed plan of how it will be delivered and marketed. 3. He wants a gargantuan tour with full production bells/whistles. 

 

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12 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

Well he spent over 10yrs making an album and finally released it on that date... so it's reasonable to think when late November rolls around he thinks "that time of the year again"... but I don't pretend to know/understand the inner workings of Axls mind😄

I'd guess that Axl has ideas of what he wants to do, and then there's the labels idea of what they think is the right move. But being able to tour the record is probably a top 3 priority for Axl in agreeing to release material. How I think it goes... 1. he wants to be happy with the songs, mix/master, track order, Artwork, no 2. He wants a solid a detailed plan of how it will be delivered and marketed. 3. He wants a gargantuan tour with full production bells/whistles. 

 

it's possible. From Axl's most recent actions it at least looks like he prefers to not announce anything before he releases a song and also enjoys performing it close to its release.

maybe if Axl wants to release a complete album all at once it will be different, but my guess is that he will give a release date that is relatively very close to the album's release itself if he even gives one at all.

I wonder if there was a plan and it was just to release Absurd and HS and then an album or if next year Axl will continue to release tunes one by one. Going by what Beta said, I believe that the plan is to eventually release a full album, CD ll, what Axl maybe always intended to release.

I think that one thing that hasn't changed and it's just a guess, is that Axl will want to make a musical statement or complete the musical statement he made with Chinese in 2008 and you can't really do that without releasing a full album imo so I remain optimistic we'll get it maybe next year or the year after that, but I think we're close.

we got 2 songs but it seems like a lot of fans are over it already and I can understand that cause 2 songs in 13 years could feel like not enough but seeing Axl that happy on stage gives me the distinct feeling he's finally ready to share his music again with the world and everything has worked out well between him, Slash, and Duff so the future looks bright, even if the waiting is very annoying to some fans and they get impatient cause the band is not active currently.

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1 hour ago, Rovim said:

do you think that these anniversaries mean something to Axl? genuine question. Me, I'm not so sure that they do. He released 2 songs while Gn'R was on tour. Maybe he wants to release new material only when they're touring/close to touring?

All I know he's released 3 individual records on that day, which can't be a coincidence, can it. Not that I really expected anything to happen. 

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20 minutes ago, jamillos said:

All I know he's released 3 individual records on that day, which can't be a coincidence, can it. Not that I really expected anything to happen. 

but there's a start of a process here, I think. Absurd and HS are indications that Axl will try to release a full record imo. Big picture, I think that even if it takes another year or two to be released, if it is released, than that's a win for us.

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3 minutes ago, Sweersa said:

GN'R is a finicky beast. 

CD2 will come in time, I'm sure. We have not heard the last of Buckethead, Brain and Robin! :D

a killswitch here, a little lick there? Slash has probably replaced the vast majority of the guitars but if not, it will be cool if some songs feature Bucket's and Robin's work. Brain already made it, at least on Absurd but guitars seems to be a different story. Really wanted to hear Robin's SRV type solo.

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2 minutes ago, Rovim said:

a killswitch here, a little lick there? Slash has probably replaced the vast majority of the guitars but if not, it will be cool if some songs feature Bucket's and Robin's work. Brain already made it, at least on Absurd but guitars seems to be a different story. Really wanted to hear Robin's SRV type solo.

Me too, hopefully we get at least a few solos from Bucket and Robin on the album.

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3 hours ago, Rovim said:

it's possible. From Axl's most recent actions it at least looks like he prefers to not announce anything before he releases a song and also enjoys performing it close to its release.

maybe if Axl wants to release a complete album all at once it will be different, but my guess is that he will give a release date that is relatively very close to the album's release itself if he even gives one at all.

I wonder if there was a plan and it was just to release Absurd and HS and then an album or if next year Axl will continue to release tunes one by one. Going by what Beta said, I believe that the plan is to eventually release a full album, CD ll, what Axl maybe always intended to release.

I think that one thing that hasn't changed and it's just a guess, is that Axl will want to make a musical statement or complete the musical statement he made with Chinese in 2008 and you can't really do that without releasing a full album imo so I remain optimistic we'll get it maybe next year or the year after that, but I think we're close.

we got 2 songs but it seems like a lot of fans are over it already and I can understand that cause 2 songs in 13 years could feel like not enough but seeing Axl that happy on stage gives me the distinct feeling he's finally ready to share his music again with the world and everything has worked out well between him, Slash, and Duff so the future looks bright, even if the waiting is very annoying to some fans and they get impatient cause the band is not active currently.

One thing is clear. Hardskool and Absurd didn't set the world on fire. Releasing the next GNR album the same way they released those songs would mean limiting the exposure a new record and bring down first weeks sales pretty dramatically. A new GNR album even an unpopular one should hold the no 1 spot in a few countries at least for the first week. I think the stealth release things work when you have a large and engaged audience... GNR have a big audience but most are hitting snooze on gnr notifications. Go big or go home. That means a big balls out single with a video of Slash & Axl... Possibly a dolphin or two🐬

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15 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

One thing is clear. Hardskool and Absurd didn't set the world on fire. Releasing the next GNR album the same way they released those songs would mean limiting the exposure a new record and bring down first weeks sales pretty dramatically. A new GNR album even an unpopular one should hold the no 1 spot in a few countries at least for the first week. I think the stealth release things work when you have a large and engaged audience... GNR have a big audience but most are hitting snooze on gnr notifications. Go big or go home. That means a big balls out single with a video of Slash & Axl... Possibly a dolphin or two🐬

it's been a long time since Axl has been featured on a music video. Is he even interested in doing one? also, since sales are not a factor anymore, I have no idea on what is the band's preference when it comes to a release approach.

the release of the 2 singles kinda supports that it's possible Axl could just release it low key but I agree that it's not the way he used to do it in the past. On the other hand, what is there to gain with a big release? not money, that's for sure. You can still promote the shit out of it so that everyone that needs to know about it, ie, Gn'R fans, will know but personally my hope is that the only reason Axl will release an album/more new material is for artistic reasons. I don't much care about how well it will do commercially.

would be cool if they'll do like an artsy music video with a cool idea behind it and not a generic one where you see the band is playing and it's a rock n' roll fuck yeah kind of thing.

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11 minutes ago, Rovim said:

it's been a long time since Axl has been featured on a music video. Is he even interested in doing one? 

2006 Axl would have looked fucking awesome in an actual music video production. 

Today, not so much, nothing again him, we all age. He could probably pull it off still.

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12 minutes ago, Sweersa said:

2006 Axl would have looked fucking awesome in an actual music video production. 

Today, not so much, nothing again him, we all age. He could probably pull it off still.

they could go the Radiohead route: none of the band members would need to feature on it, but it could still be great.

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Why do still debate this stuff, its interesting but all based on nothing except wishful thinking.  Knowing that they have not done any work together on music after five years etc for me is proof enough that nothing is in the pipeline.  I just dont think Axl has any motivation any more to make music, I think it all become too complicated.

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8 hours ago, GNROSAS said:

A lot of artists feel and touch and inspiration gets weaker due to 3 factors:

A) They live a lifestyle more comfortable, less challenging or threatening. That reflects to the emotional state and that reflects to art.

B) They are no longer functioning under the heavy influence of substances drugs that distort their perception and the feelings and the expression of the art.

C) They already achieved sucess and recognition for their art. So their drive/goal to succeed is no longer the same.

 

 

 

I think this is definitely true for some bands and artists. Some were so hungry and desperate to make it, they gave their lives, their everything to succeed. And then once they succeeded, they didn't have much to fight for.

Other bands want to succeed, but they also feel like they have something to say, that there is something inside of them, a creative inspiration, that they need to get out. I think those bands are the ones that continue to create.

Of course, some of these people who got huge early are likely traumatized, or have other mental health issues, that serves as a roadblock. Who knows what the fucking deal is with Axl? The problem is definitely not Slash or Duff, it's Axl, as he is the only one whose creative output has been a single record in 30 years or so. Trauma? madness? Insecurities? It's fairly obvious from an outside perspective that he doesn't have this unquenchable thirst to share his creative vision with the world. 

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