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@shotsfired cro I like your posts, scenarios.  Someone mentioned they believe there was than the low pay off Izzy said and why Matt declined a few guest slots. Axl owns GnR name, etc and is  Duff n Slash are owners. Izzy,,my thinking, being hired staff, would have had to sign a NDA, no meetings about setlists, nothing like that. He would be treated like staff .Matt too. I have to get this book to read .

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Ok, I never figured out the spoiler thing (typing this on a phone) so proceed with caution. Here goes on NITL: - Matt and Duff are playing in South America sometime in 2015 with Hollywood Vampire

One strange thing is how Sorum was such a Casanova? He claims to have been touched-up by Stephanie Seymour. He claims Liz Taylor was wanting to shag him. He claims Naomi Campbell molested him. He appa

Let us stop being fanboys and think about a few facts on the NITL tour. Steven made a few appearances but these were not promoted or advertised beforehand. It sounds like he could have had more i

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On 4/14/2020 at 11:04 PM, MaskingApathy said:

So are you in Guns N’ Roses, or are you just playing with Guns N’ Roses?
Oh, that’s an interesting question. From the moment we started playing together and embarking on this journey, I would consider it being in Guns N’ Roses, not just being hired to play Guns N’ Roses songs.

So technically, legally, is it a band again?
I’m in the band — there is no contractual anything at this point. So however you want to look at it.

What can you say about the Izzy situation on this tour?
Uh, I’m not gonna go anywhere near that. I thought what he had to say about it, from what I saw – I didn’t read the whole thing – but the basic come away, I thought, was well handled.

I completely forgot about those quotes. Interesting looking back on it

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On 16. 04. 2020. at 5:11 PM, Amaya said:

@shotsfired cro I like your posts, scenarios.  Someone mentioned they believe there was than the low pay off Izzy said and why Matt declined a few guest slots. Axl owns GnR name, etc and is  Duff n Slash are owners. Izzy,,my thinking, being hired staff, would have had to sign a NDA, no meetings about setlists, nothing like that. He would be treated like staff .Matt too. I have to get this book to read .

Thnaks.   Guns N Roses is one of the most complicated bands in the world - if not the most complicated.

Apart from the partnership that is now owned by the 3, there are a million of sub contracts.

Izzy can not be viewed as a hired hand, because a side from his crative input on GNR catalogue, there are still contracts that he holds after all these years.

According to my knowlegde, Ax, Duff, Slash and Izzy are all legit owners in the company called Guns N Roses.

Of what? That I am not sure of.

Eg, how many people here are aware that in all the years he was out, Slash held rights to merch and logo?  As a sole owner!

I remember an insider once said what Izzy still owns, what Duff still owns.  I believe Iz had rights with something connected to musical aspect.  Can that have influence on eversame setlist, aside from Ax's inability to sing a lot of catalogue in 2020?  Maybe. Who knows.

From what I remember, Duff has more insight of the financial side than Axl, although Ax owns the name.  Therefore, Duff always rightfully slubbers on Izzy topic, probably also reason why Matt found 'just ticket + expensis' slot insultive.

It is such an insane spiderweb I doubt they themselvs know it by heart.

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1 hour ago, shotsfired cro said:

I remember an insider once said what Izzy still owns, what Duff still owns.  I believe Iz had rights with something connected to musical aspect.  Can that have influence on eversame setlist, aside from Ax's inability to sing a lot of catalogue in 2020?  Maybe. Who knows.

Relating to @shotsfired cro’s last post - Axl said in the 2008 chats that they were allowed to play whatever they wanted live, as far as he was aware, so don’t think Izzy’s royalties or ownership would have any bearing on the set list.

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5 hours ago, shotsfired cro said:

Thnaks.   Guns N Roses is one of the most complicated bands in the world - if not the most complicated.

Apart from the partnership that is now owned by the 3, there are a million of sub contracts.

Izzy can not be viewed as a hired hand, because a side from his crative input on GNR catalogue, there are still contracts that he holds after all these years.

According to my knowlegde, Ax, Duff, Slash and Izzy are all legit owners in the company called Guns N Roses.

Of what? That I am not sure of.

Eg, how many people here are aware that in all the years he was out, Slash held rights to merch and logo?  As a sole owner!

I remember an insider once said what Izzy still owns, what Duff still owns.  I believe Iz had rights with something connected to musical aspect.  Can that have influence on eversame setlist, aside from Ax's inability to sing a lot of catalogue in 2020?  Maybe. Who knows.

From what I remember, Duff has more insight of the financial side than Axl, although Ax owns the name.  Therefore, Duff always rightfully slubbers on Izzy topic, probably also reason why Matt found 'just ticket + expensis' slot insultive.

It is such an insane spiderweb I doubt they themselvs know it by heart.

I’m almost certain Izzy sold his stake in the partnership. Izzy must be a super chill guy with zero tolerance for drama to leave behind his stake in GNR. 

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I think there was an issue with withholding of payments etc., having to constantly fight for what he was owed, which probably lead Izzy to want out as well. 

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7 hours ago, shotsfired cro said:

 Can that have influence on eversame setlist, aside from Ax's inability to sing a lot of catalogue in 2020?  Maybe. Who knows.

 

I believe that the issue with the setlist would be more of a matter of not wanting to play songs easily relatable to Slash (pre reunion days), laziness and lack of vocal capability (2011 - currently). 

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4 hours ago, Ant said:

2016 shoulda been AFD5, no substitutes. The voice was there, the money was there, the demand was there. This interminable NITL version with the "Big Three" coulda started w/ the second leg.

Bah. 

The UYI tour was the big 3. Every filmed UYI Video that was not a live video was the big 3. Nobody cared then or now. There was never a demand for AFD5 because it was one album. It’s not like U2 whose biggest album was their 5th album or Metallica’s biggest album, which was also their fifth album. AFD was the their first album and most people don’t recall the other two. So there never was a market for an AFD5. Never. 

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On 4/18/2020 at 3:40 AM, The Holographic Universe said:

The UYI tour was the big 3. Every filmed UYI Video that was not a live video was the big 3. Nobody cared then or now. There was never a demand for AFD5 because it was one album. It’s not like U2 whose biggest album was their 5th album or Metallica’s biggest album, which was also their fifth album. AFD was the their first album and most people don’t recall the other two. So there never was a market for an AFD5. Never. 

I'm not saying it would have sold more tickets.

I'm saying for the band legacy, for the quality of the recordings and shows for future posterity and releases, for capitalizing on what is critically and historically acknowledged as a far superior musical outfit which has barely any material available to view from their heyday, which made that album  that you say is the only one people care about -- 2016 seems like it was the last time to do it.

It would have been worth the cost to Axl Slash and Duff to eat that higher costs for one leg of a tour. The idea that it was risky and could have fallen apart at any minute with Izzy and Steven... firstly, I don't buy it... second, WHO THE FUCK CARES -- when did Guns N' Roses become an insurance company? You think Frank and Richard wouldn’t have been willing to sit by the phone? F that.

Instead of being GNR, Slash views it as "just a gig," and despite the fact he's carrying the thing on his shoulders every night, it shows.

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16 hours ago, The Holographic Universe said:

I’m almost certain Izzy sold his stake in the partnership. Izzy must be a super chill guy with zero tolerance for drama to leave behind his stake in GNR. 

Yes! Izzy is not part of the partnership for all we know, but he does own seeral other things within Guns N Roses company as sole owner.  ie. Slash = logo/merch.  And yes he does get paid for that, therefore, his role is still big in GNR.

Not as the 3, but a lot bigger than hired hands.

Izzy is, if you will, a member of the board. The other 3 Chairman in GNR company.  Therefore, Iz rightfully thought equal share or nothing in 2016.

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19 minutes ago, Ant said:

I'm not saying it would have sold more tickets.

I'm saying for the band legacy, for the quality of the recordings and shows for future posterity and releases, for capitalizing on what is critically and historically acknowledged as a far superior musical outfit which has barely any material available to view from their heyday, which made that album  that you say is the only one people care about -- 2016 seems like it was the last time to do it.

It would have been worth the cost to Axl Slash and Duff to eat that higher costs for one leg of a tour. The idea that it was risky and could have fallen apart at any minute with Izzy and Steven... firstly, I don't buy it... second, WHO THE FUCK CARES -- when did Guns N' Roses become an insurance company? You think Frank and Richard would haven't been willing to sit by the phone? F that.

Instead of being GNR, Slash views it as "just a gig," and despite the fact he's carrying the thing on his shoulders every night, it shows.

Nah.  That is the fan approach. Heart and business don't interact in business world.

Axl's view of GNR being a band stopped by mid 90's.

He is calling the shots based on what LN tells him to do.

Don't forget the average $ of a ticket x 70k or so per stadium.

As I mentioned earlier, did he say 'Not in this lifetime' only few years prior to NITL tour?  Who is playing guitar and bass now?

If you use a trick once, it runs runs out. Kaboom! Goes up in the air.

Reunion tour? Sure! 2020 everyone has seen it, what now?

Ax/Slash/Duff tour 2016, runs as long as it goes, when it wears out what is next?

Exactlly!  Original line up reunion tour!  Same stadiums, same places.  People will buy that. It secures them another 4-5 years of globe trottering, filling in their accounts.

If you have 2 cards up you slleve, don't use them at once.  why earn 400-500 mil $ if you can double that?  You can bet Iz gets for the reunion tour whatever he pleases.  Don't forget that last 4 years Ax share was biggest.  If he had to share 4 years with everyone else, the stake would not have been as fat and juicy.

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1 hour ago, shotsfired cro said:

Yes! Izzy is not part of the partnership for all we know, but he does own seeral other things within Guns N Roses company as sole owner.  ie. Slash = logo/merch.  And yes he does get paid for that, therefore, his role is still big in GNR.

Not as the 3, but a lot bigger than hired hands.

Izzy is, if you will, a member of the board. The other 3 Chairman in GNR company.  Therefore, Iz rightfully thought equal share or nothing in 2016.

Izzy is cool as fuck, but I don’t believe he possessed a legitimate desire to tour for years on end. I seriously doubt the band low balled him for his participation. I’m certain he wasn’t offered his worth, per se, but we will never know because neither party is talking, which shows some mutual respect. I don’t believe Duff said fuck Izzy, either. 

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On 4/19/2020 at 6:23 AM, The Holographic Universe said:

Izzy is cool as fuck, but I don’t believe he possessed a legitimate desire to tour for years on end. I seriously doubt the band low balled him for his participation. I’m certain he wasn’t offered his worth, per se, but we will never know because neither party is talking, which shows some mutual respect. I don’t believe Duff said fuck Izzy, either. 

This. I would have loved to see the AFD5 do the reunion tour, and I believe that thousands of fans around the world would have loved that too. Sure, the majority of people don't know or wouldn't care and would still buy a ticket so they can go along, get drunk with friends, and sing along to the GnR hits that they know. Take a toilet break during Better etc... But, yes there would have been serious concerns and questions to whether both Izzy and Steven could have gone the distance, for different reasons and therefore the guys like Richard and Frank are much more reliable and don't add risk to a half a billion dollar tour arrangement. As sad as all that is.

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1 hour ago, DownUnderScott said:

This. I would have loved to see the AFD5 do the reunion tour, and I believe that thousands of fans around the world would have loved that too. Sure, the majority of people don't know or wouldn't care and would still buy a ticket so they can go along, get drunk with friends, and sing along to the GnR hits that they know. Take a toilet break during Better etc... But, yes there would have been serious concerns and questions to whether both Izzy and Steven could have gone the distance, for different reasons and therefore the guys like Richard and Frank are much more reliable and don't add risk to a half a billion dollar tour arrangement. As sad as all that is.

I think an Afd5 reunion would be the last ace card in axls pocket.  But i could only see this happen if and when axl wants to retire gnr and move on. I dont think a reunion would ever happen because of axls feelings toward steven.

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At this stage, the concept of an AFD 5 reunion tour I could only see happening as a Vegas residency down the track. The general public appetite (pardon the pun) for an AFD reunion just isn't there, as GNR to most is the partnership of Axl and Slash.

 

As an aside and somewhat hilariously, I'm guessing the reason the book was delayed was because the publishers were hoping a new GNR music release would be announced that they could coincide the book launch with.

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50 minutes ago, Towlie said:

At this stage, the concept of an AFD 5 reunion tour I could only see happening as a Vegas residency down the track. The general public appetite (pardon the pun) for an AFD reunion just isn't there, as GNR to most is the partnership of Axl and Slash.

 

As an aside and somewhat hilariously, I'm guessing the reason the book was delayed was because the publishers were hoping a new GNR music release would be announced that they could coincide the book launch with.

Well, if the publishers were hoping that then they are as my ol' granddad used to say "ate up with the dumbass."

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3 hours ago, Towlie said:

At this stage, the concept of an AFD 5 reunion tour I could only see happening as a Vegas residency down the track. The general public appetite (pardon the pun) for an AFD reunion just isn't there, as GNR to most is the partnership of Axl and Slash.

 

As an aside and somewhat hilariously, I'm guessing the reason the book was delayed was because the publishers were hoping a new GNR music release would be announced that they could coincide the book launch with.

If axl only tolerated steven for one or two songs depending where the band were playing during NITL, i couldnt see axl agreeing to a vegas residency for any time period. I feel axls feelings towards steven run deep despite how much money is offered.

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The AFD celebration was gone. And was incomplete. They have that card for later.

Now its time for the UYI. And have to be more better than AFD one. They have the options to make it.

Mode dream on.

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12 minutes ago, axlvai said:

The AFD celebration was gone. And was incomplete. They have that card for later.

Now its time for the UYI. And have to be more better than AFD one. They have the options to make it.

Mode dream on.

I really hope the band go all out for the anniversary. 

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4 hours ago, Towlie said:

At this stage, the concept of an AFD 5 reunion tour I could only see happening as a Vegas residency down the track. The general public appetite (pardon the pun) for an AFD reunion just isn't there, as GNR to most is the partnership of Axl and Slash.

 

 

 

This. And if you ask anyone (that is not die hard fan) about GnR and who are their members, I can assure you they would say Axl, Slash and some other guys. I am sure they do not know who is Steven and do not give a f**k about it. 50-60% it goes the same way for Izzy or Duff.  

I have been a fan from 1991 and I personaly would be more interested to see Matt behind the drums rather than Steven. Maybe it is because I grew up with Illusions and YCBM was the first song I heard from GnR. 

Also I really really like Matt's drumming, it was so precise and it sounded like terror of the hurricane that is nearly coming.

This become even more likely for me and his drumming with Neurotic outsiders, man, it was so raw and joyfull to listen-best part of this album is the drumming. 

Than came The Cult - Beyond good and evil. I remember when it came out, some of my friends who were musicians and drummers were blown away by his drumming, it was fericious as they said. And they knew him as a GnR drummer :)

the same goes for Contraband too. 

I listened that one album of Steven adler ,,Back from the dead" and his drumming was so boring to me, straight forward, cowbell dumbshit, sorry. Same goes for guest spot on Slash's song ,,Baby cant drive" - no life at all, no groove that carries the song 

on the other side, maybe just simply saying, Matt has a much more powerfull groove for me.

 

AFD5 - I do not care at all!

I saw Axl once, I just need to see or listen Slash and I would be happy :)

it is bussiness now (I have nothing against that and I support them for that because it is BUSSINESS now) and ,,once there was this rnr band rolling on the streets..." and they'll never be what they used to be. I have accepted that long time ago and moved along, life is much better :)

oh yeah, cant wait for the book even if it is not so true as we expect ;)

 

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On 16. 04. 2020. at 2:39 AM, The Holographic Universe said:

I agree. I seriously don’t think anyone was truly wanting a Black Crowe’s reunion.

Black Crowes?  Hands down, one of the BEST bands ever!  They did not have one bad album.  Rich solo stuff?  One album better than the next.

If you are a blues rock/rock fan - it doesn'z get better than Crowes.  Just that Crowes reunion should have been one with Gorman and 1st line up, or the one with Marc Ford - this reunion is pulling Guns N Roses trick.

When you listen to BC, they were much more of a band than GNR.  GNR was always driven by Slasha and drums feat rest.

In Crowes, sure Robinsons were more exposed, but Chris vox was nothing more important to BC sound than Ed's or Gorman's.

Someone, I believe RS, one defined them 'nothing in the world defines rock n roll term than BC.

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