01/31/20 - Miami, FL - American Airlines Arena **SWEET CHILD TELEVISED ON FOX**NOW WITH MORE SNOOP DOGG**

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6 hours ago, Creed said:

Adele, Beth Ditto, Pavarotti, Meat Loaf...there are a lot of fat singers who can sing good stuff. The fat Axl - bad voice conclusion is useless. He wasnt fat at the vmas 2002. And his voice was bad.

 

This is what peak performance looks like.

Some of you may not like it but its the way it is.

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8 minutes ago, action said:

Axl is isn't fat, he looks "puffed", the look you get when on a heavy pill addiction. it was the same with elvis: elvis wasn't really fat, it was the pills that made him "look" fat, especially in the face. look up the effects of stuff like dilaudid, demerol etc. it also explains his dulled behaviour. elvis and jackson both died of a pill addiction. I hope Axl will not go the same route. who is Axl's physician? 

I'm a huge Elvis fan but to say that he wasn't grossly overweight at the end of his life would be false. You're right in that those drugs can give a puffy appearance when abused but Elvis was way past that.  His diet was probably the most unhealthy in the history of mankind.  As far as Axl, those are just accusations on your part.

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47 minutes ago, action said:

Axl is isn't fat, he looks "puffed", the look you get when on a heavy pill addiction. it was the same with elvis: elvis wasn't really fat, it was the pills that made him "look" fat, especially in the face. look up the effects of stuff like dilaudid, demerol etc. it also explains his dulled behaviour. elvis and jackson both died of a pill addiction. I hope Axl will not go the same route. who is Axl's physician? 

heaven forbid. 

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1 hour ago, action said:

Axl is isn't fat, he looks "puffed", the look you get when on a heavy pill addiction. it was the same with elvis: elvis wasn't really fat, it was the pills that made him "look" fat, especially in the face. look up the effects of stuff like dilaudid, demerol etc. it also explains his dulled behaviour. elvis and jackson both died of a pill addiction. I hope Axl will not go the same route. who is Axl's physician? 

Let’s stick to the facts

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14 hours ago, bdinan said:

I've come to grips with it. It's a nostalgia act. Kudos to the guys for milking it this long. I'm never gonna fault an artist for taking advantage of dumb people. They've milked this cash cow excessively long with no end in sight. Remarkable business management. 

No offence to anyone who goes to the shows, but that is exactly what the majority of NITL has been. That, and people telling themselves "yeah, but they might be better at my show".

13 hours ago, hudsonsaul said:

If you're going to charge large amounts for tickets and continue pushing the NITL tour, at least keep you instrument and skills healthy out of respect for both yourself, bandmates and fans.

Exactly. They've shown time and time again that they just don't give a shit, just as long as the money keeps coming in.

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2 hours ago, action said:

Axl  isn't fat, he looks "puffed", the look you get when on a heavy pill addiction. it was the same with elvis: elvis wasn't really fat, it was the pills that made him "look" fat, especially in the face. look up the effects of stuff like dilaudid, demerol etc. it also explains his dulled behaviour. elvis and jackson both died of a pill addiction. I hope Axl will not go the same route. who is Axl's physician? 

Everyone is physically different and metabolisms may change with age, I just don't think there is much in terms of productivity on our side of things to see an older Axl with a few extra pounds and go straight to "Axl might die just like Elvis" lol

Edited February 3, 2020 by WhazUp

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5 hours ago, Estrangedfx said:

I'm not so sure. You definitely are right about the VMA'S being watched by WAY more people, plus the fact that crowd was minimal compared to all the musicians/celebrities in attendance so there's that, too. 

It's all objective, so to say it was worse or was better, it depends. Axl definitely looked better, but he looked "different" due to it being 18 years ago, of course, his attire, the cornrows, the Botox. 

Vocally, the VMA "Jungle" intro alone outdoes that horrendous Sweet Child performance. Axl had a pretty awesome extended scream before it all went downhill, unfortunately but it had other glimpses of greatness. 

Madagascar, to me, sounded wonderful. Not because it technically sounded good (he'd sing it MUCH better during the 2002 tour) but it was something new, therefore exciting. 

Paradise City was awful, but his "Round 1" shout-out, it showed he had something to prove. He just didn't prove it that night. If they'd have broadcast MSG 2002's "The Blues" or something, it'd have been spectacular. 

Just another opinion. I know not many would agree. But really.... At least at the VMA'S, Axl still kinda moved/danced liked Axl, was energetic, got winded but had an excuse. He was running all over the place. The other night, he just sounded flat, no power in a single note. It's depressing to even think about. I feel bad for him. But can he still deliver a great live vocal when/if he wants? Hell yes. 

Axl sounds awesome in Nighttrain last night, and the ending of you're crazy. If only he can find some way to use his baritone to do the ballads, it'd be awesome. And even though he sounds horrendous on scom, he holds all the notes till the end. So I didn't lose all hope for his voice.

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I think the You're Crazy is great. 

[Guns n' Swedes 56]

Hmmm, strange performance. Some stuff just sound bad, or worse than "usual", but other stuff sound really good for being the first concert. Yesterdays, Civil War and Nigfhtrain sound pretty good for example. 

Edited February 3, 2020 by Guns n' Swedes

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12 hours ago, t-p-d-a said:

When I heard Sweet Child O' Mine in Berlin... I thought it sounds absoluty shit.. When I heard Sweet Child O' Mine in Leipzig... I thought "hey it's sounds pretty good, better than Berlin". Both witness from FOS 1.  What is your problem?

Read my comment. No problem with you enjoying it, but if you (or anyone else) say I can't tell if it's good or bad because I wasn't there in person, you don't know what you're talking about... if you're not saying that, then there is no problem   I have been to GNR gigs, as well as countless other bands where it sounded great in the venue, but when I listened back to it either with pro recordings or camera recordings the vocal or other things were not on form, but the energy and volume of the crowd disguised it at the time.

Checked out the Leipzig performance, it was grand definitely better than both the superbowl and Berlin.

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Geez people. I finally watched the SCOM performance. I was expecting some vocal disaster based on comments here. That was far from the worst in recent years. It wasn't 1980s level but it wasn't THAT bad. I'd say about average or slightly above for NITL.

They definitely knew which song would be used. Everything from Duff seated for the opening bass line to Axl not wearing an offensive shirt indicates that. Also, it was no accident that 99% of the screen time was A, S and D. There was a slight glimpse of Richard. Frank got a few seconds. I don't think you could see Dizzy if you tried and you'd only notice Melissa if you knew to look. I'm sure that was planned with input from the band and/or TB.

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1 hour ago, Gnrcane said:

Geez people. I finally watched the SCOM performance. I was expecting some vocal disaster based on comments here. That was far from the worst in recent years. It wasn't 1980s level but it wasn't THAT bad. I'd say about average or slightly above for NITL.

They definitely knew which song would be used. Everything from Duff seated for the opening bass line to Axl not wearing an offensive shirt indicates that. Also, it was no accident that 99% of the screen time was A, S and D. There was a slight glimpse of Richard. Frank got a few seconds. I don't think you could see Dizzy if you tried and you'd only notice Melissa if you knew to look. I'm sure that was planned with input from the band and/or TB.

Well, seemed like Frank and Kat got plenty of TV time to me.

I guess with all the good will dripping from this televised performance they should parlay it into another world tour...

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1 hour ago, Gnrcane said:

I'd say about average or slightly above for NITL.

Which equals bad

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Shame to watch Dead Horse, axl is terrible

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Axl on Dead Horse sounds fuckin bad

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8 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said:

Which equals bad

Did you really expect it to sound different?  Based on the comments people made here I was expecting some train wreck disaster that would be written about all over social media for how bad it was.

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2 minutes ago, Gnrcane said:

Did you really expect it to sound different?  

absolutely not. 

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I’m signing out for a while, won’t be posting again until there’s new music to discuss, at a minimum

No point hanging around a forum posting negative comments . I saw 4 shows on this tour, including the infamous Abu Dhabi formula 1 show where they finished early. There were highlights and lowlights in each of the shows. More good than bad I must say.

But I can’t support a never ending tour on a half assed setlist, draining the fans for all they can. 

Hope you all get out of it what you want 

Adios

Edited February 3, 2020 by LA_0013

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48 minutes ago, TheSlashrose said:

Shame to watch Dead Horse, axl is terrible

I just watched it and thought he actually sounded really good aside from the little flubber at the beginning. 

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2 hours ago, Gnrcane said:

Geez people. I finally watched the SCOM performance. I was expecting some vocal disaster based on comments here. That was far from the worst in recent years. It wasn't 1980s level but it wasn't THAT bad. I'd say about average or slightly above for NITL.

They definitely knew which song would be used. Everything from Duff seated for the opening bass line to Axl not wearing an offensive shirt indicates that. Also, it was no accident that 99% of the screen time was A, S and D. There was a slight glimpse of Richard. Frank got a few seconds. I don't think you could see Dizzy if you tried and you'd only notice Melissa if you knew to look. I'm sure that was planned with input from the band and/or TB.

Frank got several good shots. Would've been nice to see more of Melissa 

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11 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

Frank got several good shots. Would've been nice to see more of Melissa 

Maybe a calendar? Somebody contact TB.

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1 hour ago, Tom-Ass said:

Which equals bad

To be fair, I have watched a good amount of videos from the show and I actually think Axl sounds pretty good compared to other opening shows. Songs like SCOM he will never sound good at. 

Just watched Nightrain, DTJ and SOYL back to back and they were all awesome...

Edited February 3, 2020 by Tom-Ass

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26 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

Frank got several good shots. Would've been nice to see more of Melissa 

She is my 3rd current active GNR member behind Slash and Duff, she should get some solo performances on tour so the crowd can hear actual good signing for a short time Actually, why not replace Axl with her? I really think she can do a great job...compared to whats going on now.

Edited February 3, 2020 by ax1

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10 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said:

To be fair, I have watched a good amount of videos from the show and I actually think Axl sounds pretty good compared to other opening shows. Songs like SCOM he will never sound good at. 

Just watched Nightrain, DTJ and SOYL back to back and they were all awesome...

Axl mickeyed the fuck out of SOYL.

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You're Crazy live actually gave be goosebumps... Axl does a good job on it live.