Tom-Ass 7,685 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, allwaystired said: A lot of focus is placed on Axl - but what did people think of Slash? I've only watched the Fox video (I don't bother with crappy cameraphone footage) but to me he looked pretty dis-engaged and drained. Anyone else get that feeling? From everything I read here it was pretty much the consensus that Slash nailed it and saved the performance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
allwaystired 2,536 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Tom-Ass said: From everything I read here it was pretty much the consensus that Slash nailed it and saved the performance. Ok- fair enough! As I say, I only watched the one video. I just thought the whole song sounded flat and lifeless to me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dean 2,191 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 On 2/4/2020 at 7:19 AM, jamillos said: There are loads of possible alternatives they could do: Dead Horse – Shadow of Your Love – You’re Crazy (AfD) – Nice Boys The Seeker – Down on the Farm Bad Obsession – Pretty Tied Up Nightrain – Out ta Get Me – My Michelle Civil War – Yesterdays – Estranged Patience – Don’t Cry Used to Love Her – You’re Crazy (Lies) Coma – There Was a Time – Locomotive Chinese Democracy – Shackler’s Revenge Madagascar – Sorry – Prostitute And so on! I hope something like this will begin as of March. Chinese, Nightrain, Civil War, Estranged, Patience and Don't Cry should forever be staples IMO Particularly Chinese. I think this band smash that song out of the park. Slash truly shines on it I feel, and that's coming from someone who doesn't appreciate his Pot Noodles on some of the other Chinese tunes. SCOM will always be played. It wouldn't effect me in any way if it was dropped, but the casual fan would be baffled if they did. A bird next to me started crying when Slash started playing the intro at the Slane show. Fuck knows what she was thinking when she seen me weep uncontrollably when the intro of There Was A Time was played, and even more so when I realised Axl was butchering it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DTJ80 1,034 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 There is footage on-line of the gig with about 6/7 full songs and snippets of the rest. Better was horrific, Slither just doesn’t work and Dead Horse as a band was all over the place but the gig appeared to be nowhere near as bad as folk are making out. Yes, the band and Axl in particular could make smarter song choices to best utilise his current capabilities but what I heard was no different to the last couple of years. Note - I am very much FOR a setlist overhaul and new material. It’s just worth pointing out if I had paid to go to that gig, I wouldn’t have been disappointed like many folk on here appear to be. 🤷🏼♂️ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TMAC20 392 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 My take and I know@RussTcb will disagree I have seen Axl at his best - he is nowhere close now - Slash is a monster always has been always will be - The Show Smkc recorded a album of new material in less than a month - 12 songs whether u like them or not - 12 new songs Axl voice is gone - a shell of his former self and has beengone for a number of years I appreciate him trying - As a lifer I went to 4 NITL gigs - he sounded decent - nothing special - I get a lot of flake on this board on my Fan boy ism of Slash - From Day 1 I have always thought Slash and Axl were 50-50 on the bands success I always thought Slash was the show and I know this is a “ New Gnr board - not a lifer or day 1 board - hell its barely a Slash board but if u went to a illusion tour gig or a NITL gig u should realize Slash has always been the show with his playing and Bigger than life persona I accept Axl for who he is in 2020 - about time everyone does as well - The cat is trying but his voice barring surgery or a miracle is shit Ps - You can’t drop Scom or YCbm because Axl cant sing them - it’s Axl job to sing the songs Just Enjoy the band as they r - A guitar driven band led by Slash that once had the best singer in the world - Mr Axl Rose Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MaskingApathy 2,283 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, TMAC20 said: Smkc recorded a album of new material in less than a month - 12 songs whether u like them or not - 12 new songs They didn't record them in less than a month, it was more like 5 months. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tyler Drama 970 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 On 2/4/2020 at 2:19 AM, jamillos said: Better, YCBM, and yes, SCOM could all go. In fact, there seems to be this idea that there are songs that absolutely have to be always played. I would agree with this only as far as two songs go: Jungle and PC. Anything else could either disappear for a while or, ideally, alternate with something else. I understand KOHD, NR, and SCOM will probably be always played – but the band wouldn’t go bankrupt if they alternated it because 50% of people would stop attending their shows in such case. Bullshit. They’ve had shows in the past (old Guns) where they didn’t always play these songs, and all was fine. They didn’t lose any fans, in fact, they gained new ones. I’ve said it here before – they started UYI tour playing previously unheard songs, they even opened their first show with a new song – they had the balls to do that in none less than Rio. "Better" should go immediately. Why doesn’t Axl choose something else, more suitable, from CD? This song is heavy on raspy vocals, and this way it sounds abhorrent. There are those "cleaner-approach" songs, like Prostitute etc. And as for SCOM, YCBM – what would happen if they dropped it for a while? At some point, with the new album out, the playlist will have to be heavily altered anyway, so why not start now? Does Metallica play Nothing Else Matters at every show? No. Do Deep Purple play Child in Time? No way. Have they lost fans because of that? Fuck no! They could change the playlist heavily and alternate it like they used to 4 years ago. Suit it to Axl’s current vocal form, not to some bullshit notion of casual fans’ expectations. Keep doing it the way you have, the casuals will eventually get sick of it, and you’re screwed (and then Nando will suddenly start visiting this forum again). Even the beginning – does it always have to be ISE/Brownstone/CD/Jungle? It’s like they’re not making any effort whatsoever, just running idly. There are loads of possible alternatives they could do: Dead Horse – Shadow of Your Love – You’re Crazy (AfD) – Nice Boys The Seeker – Down on the Farm Bad Obsession – Pretty Tied Up Nightrain – Out ta Get Me – My Michelle Civil War – Yesterdays – Estranged Patience – Don’t Cry Used to Love Her – You’re Crazy (Lies) Coma – There Was a Time – Locomotive Chinese Democracy – Shackler’s Revenge Madagascar – Sorry – Prostitute And so on! I hope something like this will begin as of March. Sweet Child is GNR’s biggest song of all time, and the song that really pushed them to the next level. I’d deem it even more necessary than Jungle or PC. That being said, I wouldn’t mind if it was never played again. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moreblack 1,970 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 It will never not be played live by them, it cannot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TMAC20 392 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Listen toSmkc play Scom and be prepared yo be blown away Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tomek1985 91 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, TMAC20 said: Listen toSmkc play Scom and be prepared yo be blown away hah, you're funny guy Edited February 5, 2020 by Tomek1985 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom-Ass 7,685 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 6 hours ago, Tomek1985 said: hah, you're funny guy He is right. I am not a big Myles fan but he is better than Axl on that one. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gnrcane 444 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 9 hours ago, Tyler Drama said: Sweet Child is GNR’s biggest song of all time, and the song that really pushed them to the next level. I’d deem it even more necessary than Jungle or PC. That being said, I wouldn’t mind if it was never played again. It's like how Aerosmith has to play "I Don't Want To Miss a Thing" at every show even though Joe Perry said he hates the song and they didn't write it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sydney Fan 1,959 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Gnrcane said: It's like how Aerosmith has to play "I Don't Want To Miss a Thing" at every show even though Joe Perry said he hates the song and they didn't write it. Well aerosmith didnt have to release a song like that for a film. So they have themselves to blame. 10 hours ago, moreblack said: It will never not be played live by them, it cannot. Theres no way can wheez his way through PC... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cory Trevor 141 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Gnrcane said: It's like how Aerosmith has to play "I Don't Want To Miss a Thing" at every show even though Joe Perry said he hates the song and they didn't write it. both times i saw them they didnt play that crap 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gnrcane 444 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 10 hours ago, Cory Trevor said: both times i saw them they didnt play that crap You got lucky. It is terrible live. Perry, Hamilton and Whitford stand there looking like they are going to fall asleep on their feet for most of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sibidy7 23 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 On 2/1/2020 at 8:33 AM, gnr5 said: To be fair only a few bands do that now. Most major productions are mainly the same set every night That is true. Doesnt make it right. Even the stones are changing it up, metallica as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom-Ass 7,685 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 14 hours ago, Gnrcane said: It's like how Aerosmith has to play "I Don't Want To Miss a Thing" at every show even though Joe Perry said he hates the song and they didn't write it. Aerosmith actually hardly plays that anymore. Thank God Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moreblack 1,970 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 But good luck finding a gig they didn't do Dream On 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riot 97 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Tom-Ass said: Aerosmith actually hardly plays that anymore. Thank God They alternate it I believe. In 2019 they played it 21 times out of 46 shows 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-Jaro- 668 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 hours ago, moreblack said: But good luck finding a gig they didn't do Dream On But ST doesnt sound shit singing it... SCOM is like Metallica' Sandman or NEM - must be on setlist if it is not some exclusive private only diehard show, but Axl is butchering it... And has no intent adjusting his approach to it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moreblack 1,970 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 18 minutes ago, -Jaro- said: But ST doesnt sound shit singing it... He's getting less good by the year tho Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Tom-Ass 7,685 Posted February 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2020 3 hours ago, moreblack said: He's getting less good by the year tho He also 71 years old and still 10 times better than Axl on his worst days. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tsinindy 2,984 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 56 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said: He also 71 years old and still 10 times better than Axl on his worst days. Man, maybe true now...but Steven in his prime doesn’t touch Axl in his prime. Just...no lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gibsonfender2323 710 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Tom-Ass said: He also 71 years old and still 10 times better than Axl on his worst days. Axl has to also reach more octaves through 30+ songs. Tyler mostly stays in one range except for 1 verse of Dream On. Axl's normal talking range is a low Baritone so its natural that he would lose more of that mid high range has its not his normal range. But that's what makes Axl Special 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
There'sAHeavenAboveU 7 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 On 2/5/2020 at 7:06 AM, Politania said: It rather looks like a bad dyeing of hair. the sides are brighter than the top. -look at Slash ... he looks so offended, like jealous wife next to her husband, when the guy is saying hello to another woman haha Is there a page of Slash-jealous-with-Axl photos? Because there seem to be a lot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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