double talkin jive mfkr Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Liva said: once again...if you hate the band, dont go to the shows, and stop coming here and insulting members. They are selling MILLIONS of tickets, unless you plan to organize massive protests outside each arena/stadium, you are accomplishing nothing other than running your mouth. To think what you are doing is taking a stand and going to change GNR's ways is a joke. GNR Camp Member: Hey Axl, a couple of guys on this forum have some complaints and demand changes Axl: How many are complaining? GNR Camp Member: I dunno, maybe 200 of them Axl: How many tickets have we sold, and out of those 200, how many have actually seen this tour in person GNR Camp Member: over 4 million ticket sold, currently top 5 grossing tours of ALL time, should we change it up to please these 200 people, maybe half have seen a live show on the NITL tour? Axl: Nah, Im all set, I look out every night to smiling faces and cheering people, think we are doing ok. If these complaints actually even get to Axl, that is probably what the convo goes like. Come on man. seems like a pretty accurate conversation to me so much so that I'll continue it for you Fer: those douches at mygnr are still spreading shit Axl: Fucking send those fucking trolls to banish all the videos and whatever else the fuck they wanna post or complain about Fer: Done Axl: Thanks now get me a taco 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 hours ago, Liva said: once again...if you hate the band, dont go to the shows, and stop coming here and insulting members. They are selling MILLIONS of tickets, unless you plan to organize massive protests outside each arena/stadium, you are accomplishing nothing other than running your mouth. To think what you are doing is taking a stand and going to change GNR's ways is a joke. GNR Camp Member: Hey Axl, a couple of guys on this forum have some complaints and demand changes Axl: How many are complaining? GNR Camp Member: I dunno, maybe 200 of them Axl: How many tickets have we sold, and out of those 200, how many have actually seen this tour in person GNR Camp Member: over 4 million ticket sold, currently top 5 grossing tours of ALL time, should we change it up to please these 200 people, maybe half have seen a live show on the NITL tour? Axl: Nah, Im all set, I look out every night to smiling faces and cheering people, think we are doing ok. If these complaints actually even get to Axl, that is probably what the convo goes like. Come on man. As seen by the dismal sales of the US stadium tour so far, Axl will soon be looking out at far less people. If the idea is "as long as Axl and GNR are getting their money, then they still won't care", then it won't matter anyway. But if they're doing these tours for anywhere near the right reasons, then it should absolutely matter to them what their die hard fans think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 People have been waiting for March. If Guns want to sell well in the US, they'd better play a new song in Mexico. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 12 minutes ago, jamillos said: People have been waiting for March. If Guns want to sell well in the US, they'd better play a new song in Mexico. We all know what will happen in March. We'll start waiting for Europe in May. Then after that the US stadium tour. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 24 minutes ago, allwaystired said: We all know what will happen in March. We'll start waiting for Europe in May. Then after that the US stadium tour. Nah, I wouldn't. But yes, there can't not be people who'll say, well ackchyually, technically they've only advertised the "all new" show starting with Europe, haven't they, so there still are heaps of Tuesdays left, right? Nope, no more of this dung. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, jamillos said: Nah, I wouldn't. But yes, there can't not be people who'll say, well ackchyually, technically they've only advertised the "all new" show starting with Europe, haven't they, so there still are heaps of Tuesdays left, right? Nope, no more of this dung. That will be the fallback position for sure. I'm not sure I'd buy that though - why would the band take 3 months off, change nothing, start the tour off again, then make big chances in the month of April? It would seem very unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, allwaystired said: That will be the fallback position for sure. I'm not sure I'd buy that though - why would the band take 3 months off, change nothing, start the tour off again, then make big chances in the month of April? It would seem very unlikely. Exactly. It's March or die. Isn't that a Motorhead record or something? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 7 Tuesdays remain between now and the end of March. Is there something brewing? Who knows, but I'm hoping Jarmo is proven correct. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double talkin jive mfkr Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 hours ago, jamillos said: People have been waiting for March. If Guns want to sell well in the US, they'd better play a new song in Mexico. i live in mexico city and could foreseeably attend provide there is a 360 degree change up or some hint of it prior but i dont see how they will sell tickets here again like they did last time though, there just isn't the demand everyone knows Axl's shape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 21 minutes ago, double talkin jive mfkr said: i live in mexico city and could foreseeably attend provide there is a 360 degree change up or some hint of it prior but i dont see how they will sell tickets here again like they did last time though, there just isn't the demand everyone knows Axl's shape Right, and we're still talking about the southern parts, where GNR are more beloved. The NA situation's gonna be way worse if things go downhill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SoulMonster Posted February 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, double talkin jive mfkr said: i live in mexico city and could foreseeably attend provide there is a 360 degree change up or some hint of it prior 360 degree change up is actually back to where it was.... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowOfTheWave Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Dean said: 7 Tuesdays remain between now and the end of March. Is there something brewing? Who knows, but I'm hoping Jarmo is proven correct. As I said before, the only thing that gives me hope is that announcing an album well after the tour announcement is the exact kind of bullshit we could expect from this management. Any other band you'd assume there would be some kind of an announcement to tie in the with the tour if there's an album coming, but with GNR there's no reason to make that assumption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, ShadowOfTheWave said: As I said before, the only thing that gives me hope is that announcing an album well after the tour announcement is the exact kind of bullshit we could expect from this management. Any other band you'd assume there would be some kind of an announcement to tie in the with the tour if there's an album coming, but with GNR there's no reason to make that assumption. It's not uncommon for bands to announce a tour first then drop news of an album release a few weeks later, but as the weeks pass us by, this will become increasingly more unlikely and we will be treated to the same old NITL routine. I fucking hope I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double talkin jive mfkr Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, SoulMonster said: 360 degree change up is actually back to where it was.... exactly meaning i still might go regardless lol doubtful though gnr festival gigs are prob the worst gamble but if they are going to do any sort of 180 then i'd hate to miss it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liva Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 hours ago, RussTCB said: As seen by the dismal sales of the US stadium tour so far, Axl will soon be looking out at far less people. If the idea is "as long as Axl and GNR are getting their money, then they still won't care", then it won't matter anyway. But if they're doing these tours for anywhere near the right reasons, then it should absolutely matter to them what their die hard fans think. Other than their first run through each city starting in 2016, their 2nd runs everyone was pointing out how bad ticket sales were and how arena's were half empty a few days/weeks/months after they went on sale. And those were 15,000 seat arena's. Turns out they sold out or near sold out most of those shows, if they didnt, they wouldnt be making another run around NA in even larger venue's, they would do Arena's not Stadiums. I think the demand is there, but the urgency to purchase immediately is not, so people will wait until closer to the show date to buy their tickets. In 2016, people were scared to not get a seat and were scared about stubhub prices being through the roof, so tickets went fast. In 2017, shows sold out closer to the show date, in my case, the 2020 NJ show at Metlife is July 18, thats a long time away. With around a 50,000 seat capacity for concerts, 82k for football, I believe they will sell out and possibly add a 2nd date down the road. I have seen no promotion for the show in this area yet either, so outside the forum or following them on social media, most people in the area arent even aware they are playing yet. I would expect promotion to ramp up in May/June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 14 minutes ago, Liva said: Other than their first run through each city starting in 2016, their 2nd runs everyone was pointing out how bad ticket sales were and how arena's were half empty a few days/weeks/months after they went on sale. And those were 15,000 seat arena's. Turns out they sold out or near sold out most of those shows, if they didnt, they wouldnt be making another run around NA in even larger venue's, they would do Arena's not Stadiums. I think the demand is there, but the urgency to purchase immediately is not, so people will wait until closer to the show date to buy their tickets. In 2016, people were scared to not get a seat and were scared about stubhub prices being through the roof, so tickets went fast. In 2017, shows sold out closer to the show date, in my case, the 2020 NJ show at Metlife is July 18, thats a long time away. With around a 50,000 seat capacity for concerts, 82k for football, I believe they will sell out and possibly add a 2nd date down the road. I have seen no promotion for the show in this area yet either, so outside the forum or following them on social media, most people in the area arent even aware they are playing yet. I would expect promotion to ramp up in May/June. There was an abundance of discounted tickets available for the NA arena run and I'm sure the upcoming stadium run will be no different. It's odd that they're not advertising in the NYC market because they ran tons of radio promo across the rest of the US. Either way, once the heavy discounts start coming for the stadium tour people will start to buy tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, RussTCB said: There was an abundance of discounted tickets available for the NA arena run and I'm sure the upcoming stadium run will be no different. It's odd that they're not advertising in the NYC market because they ran tons of radio promo across the rest of the US. Either way, once the heavy discounts start coming for the stadium tour people will start to buy tickets. interest is already not on the same initial level. Maybe the best incentive or something fans can at least count on as a reason for Axl to truly focus on recording and/or releasing the next album Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rovim said: interest is already not on the same initial level. Maybe the best incentive or something fans can at least count on as a reason for Axl to truly focus on recording and/or releasing the next album That would be nice, but who knows. The band are going to get their payday for these shows regardless of how many empty or discounted seats there are. So we as fans have that working against us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, RussTCB said: That would be nice, but who knows. The band are going to get their payday for these shows regardless of how many empty or discounted seats there are. So we as fans have that working against us. but will they still get stadium sized offers? how does that work? anyway, it's a shame the band or Axl are kinda taking their time with really going for it with the reunion shows. I guess I can see them not doing much in the studio in 2020 and in 2021 the band could be not active and Slash can do something else. Even if they said at least that in 2021 they're gonna enter a studio and start real work that would have been at least something. Very standard thing to share for a band usually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 52 minutes ago, Rovim said: but will they still get stadium sized offers? how does that work? anyway, it's a shame the band or Axl are kinda taking their time with really going for it with the reunion shows. I guess I can see them not doing much in the studio in 2020 and in 2021 the band could be not active and Slash can do something else. Even if they said at least that in 2021 they're gonna enter a studio and start real work that would have been at least something. Very standard thing to share for a band usually If this tour continues to sell so poorly and has to be filled with discounted ticket sales then no, they won't get stadium sized offers anymore. However, there's always ways to just repackage things and get the same money. In any case, most of us agree that it would go a long way if the band just communicated with their fans. Many of us, including the general public at large, seem to be done paying to see the same show again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurielWeathers Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 On 2/10/2020 at 9:21 PM, Liva said: "Jaded - adjective; definition - tired, bored or lacking enthusiasm, typically after having too much of something." I would say i am the opposite of Jaded, being I am not bored or complaining, and I am still enthused by them touring. Poor word choice there. Shows I have seen: Show # Date Artists City Venue 1 12/2/2002 Guns N Roses Boston Fleet Center 2 5/12/2006 Guns N Roses NYC Hammerstein Ballroom 3 5/14/2006 Guns N Roses NYC Hammerstein Ballroom 4 5/15/2006 Guns N Roses NYC Hammerstein Ballroom 5 5/17/2006 Guns N Roses NYC Hammerstein Ballroom 6 11/5/2006 Guns N Roses East Rutherford, NJ Continental Airlines Arena 7 11/10/2006 Guns N Roses NYC MSG 8 11/17/2011 Guns N Roses East Rutherford, NJ IZOD Center 9 2/15/2012 Guns N Roses NYC The Ritz Webster Hall 10 4/8/2016 Guns N Roses Vegas T-Mobile Arena 11 7/23/2016 Guns N Roses East Rutherford, NJ Metlife Stadium 12 7/24/2016 Guns N Roses East Rutherford, NJ Metlife Stadium 13 10/11/2017 Guns N Roses NYC MSG 14 10/15/2017 Guns N Roses NYC MSG 15 10/16/2017 Guns N Roses NYC MSG Show # Date Artists City Venue 16 11/9/2004 Velvet Revolver Worcester Centrum Centre 17 5/22/2007 Velvet Revolver NYC Nokie Theatre Show # Date Artists City Venue 18 5/22/2010 Slash (Solo) Atlantic City, NJ Borgata Hotel and Casino 19 9/14/2010 Slash (Solo) NYC Terminal 5 20 9/17/2010 Slash (Solo) Atlantic City, NJ The Music Box at the Borgata 21 5/3/2012 SMKC Baltimore Rams Head Live! 22 5/22/2012 SMKC NYC Irving Plaza 23 5/23/2012 SMKC NYC Irving Plaza 24 9/18/2012 SMKC NYC Hammerstein Ballroom 25 5/7/2015 SMKC NYC Terminal 5 26 10/1/2018 SMKC Montclair, NJ Wellmont Theatre 27 7/31/2019 SMKC Port Chester, NY The Capitol Theatre I would think this would qualify me as a genuine fan, dont ya think? I have seen all these shows and am excited to see them this summer at Metlife stadium. Jaded...nah...true and excited fan...yup I'm just glad Axl is happy. I really wish they would come back to Oklahoma. I can't afford the drive to Dallas or the tickets. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Murielweathers@gmail.com said: I'm just glad Axl is happy. I really wish they would come back to Oklahoma. I can't afford the drive to Dallas or the tickets. Who said Axl was happy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurielWeathers Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 hours ago, tsinindy said: Who said Axl was happy? He seems to be. I mean, this is what he wanted, right? He has always wanted the band back together, as much as it could be, and to continue Guns N Roses. Whether he wants new music out remains to be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishgunnerII Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 10 hours ago, Dean said: 7 Tuesdays remain between now and the end of March. Is there something brewing? Who knows, but I'm hoping Jarmo is proven correct. What's Jarmo been saying ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, IrishgunnerII said: What's Jarmo been saying ? He's under the impression that the plan was to drop an album in March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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