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1 hour ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

The Spaghetti Incident has a few tracks that Axl would sound really good on nowadays... Down On The Farm, I Don't Care About You, and Black Leather would probably all sound good with this lineup.

For CD songs he should just stick to the title track and Madagascar, though. Maybe CITR every once in a while.

I would love to hear them do any of those three TSI songs. Maybe someday...

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12 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

The Spaghetti Incident has a few tracks that Axl would sound really good on nowadays... Down On The Farm, I Don't Care About You, and Black Leather would probably all sound good with this lineup.

For CD songs he should just stick to the title track and Madagascar, though. Maybe CITR every once in a while.

Very true.

I think he'd nail since I don't have you as well. Really want a performance of that song. Or Human Being (drools)

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17 hours ago, DK6 said:

Yes!!! I've been saying this for ages and never heard anyone else mention it!

Back in Nuguns he used to slaughter it - absolutely appalling.

I thought it would improve with Slash back but nope - still shit.

It's bewildering considering its such a simple song to play. One of those songs that's great for beginners.

 

Wait, what? Richard "doesn't know the notes"? 

I don't have any recent recording of this song live (and I don't care much for it), but I'm 100% sure he knows how to play it. He may have reworked something, but that doesn't mean he "doesn't know". He's no Ashba.

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35 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

Wait, what? Richard "doesn't know the notes"? 

I don't have any recent recording of this song live (and I don't care much for it), but I'm 100% sure he knows how to play it. He may have reworked something, but that doesn't mean he "doesn't know". He's no Ashba.

i have the video of patience, he plays the song without going into the notes and just mimicks slash he doesn't play izzy's notes and goes on to whatever tangent hes going on - particularly noticeable on the onset of the outro when you should hear clearly the intricacies of the bridge as slash leads the band into the change and fortus leaves a vapid gap to say the least ruining the song

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12 minutes ago, double talkin jive mfkr said:

i have the video of patience, he plays the song without going into the notes and just mimicks slash he doesn't play izzy's notes and goes on to whatever tangent hes going on - particularly noticeable on the onset of the outro 

I'm watching a video of Austin 2019 and there's nothing wrong with Richard. And Duff also plays the acoustic guitar in the 1st half. 

The outro is still the same basic chord progression: D - D/F# - G. 

Again: he may have changed a bit, but it's the same notes. If anything, Richard added a G7 in two bars before Axl enters. This is obviously way different than saying he "doesn't know" how to play it. 

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Just now, Voodoochild said:

I'm watching a video of Austin 2019 and there's nothing wrong with Richard. And Duff also plays the acoustic guitar in the 1st half. 

The outro is still the same basic chord progression: D - D/F# - G. 

Again: he may have changed a bit, but it's the same notes. If anything, Richard added a G7 in two bars before Axl enters. This is obviously way different than saying he "doesn't know" how to play it. 

LOL i just watched your video he does  weird tangent notes upon the outro that are not the correct notes LOL prior he did a little bit better but still goes slightly off track

fuck 

so maybe he does know them but he sure as hell doesn't fucking play them and its off 

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4 minutes ago, James Bond said:

Slash varied his arpeggios in Patience on a nightly basis on the UYI Tour. Embellishing is different than not knowing the song.

guys look at the outro he doesn't come in correctly at all and its supposed to be the most satisfying part of the song, nobody can criticize slash nor izzy on this but its astoundly clear as patience is one of my favorite songs and the most important is that part, its the only part of the song that truly changes and take it to another level and he just doesn't fucking do it, it baffles me its like they skip that part just like frank skips the raggae fill in live and let die that is right after you have to do it well...  

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8 minutes ago, double talkin jive mfkr said:

LOL i just watched your video he does  weird tangent notes upon the outro that are not the correct notes LOL prior he did a little bit better but still goes slightly off track

fuck 

so maybe he does know them but he sure as hell doesn't fucking play them and its off 

I can't tell you how there's clearly nothing wrong there. Slash plays the outro first, then Richard and Duff (now with the bass) join him after. The only thing that Richard does is what I said in the G chord. It's just his own touch. 

6 minutes ago, James Bond said:

Slash varied his arpeggios in Patience on a nightly basis on the UYI Tour. Embellishing is different than not knowing the song.

This. Richard also plays some additional stuff in Estranged in the break section before the drums kick in and nobody ever complained about that.

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7 minutes ago, double talkin jive mfkr said:

guys look at the outro he doesn't come in correctly at all and its supposed to be the most satisfying part of the song, nobody can criticize slash nor izzy on this but its astoundly clear as patience is one of my favorite songs and the most important is that part, its the only part of the song that truly changes and take it to another level and he just doesn't fucking do it, it baffles me its like they skip that part just like frank skips the raggae fill in live and let die that is right after you have to do it well...  

Gilby used to double a lot of Slash's parts instead of playing the Izzy variations. Paradise City is a very clear example where he doubles Slash's single note riff instead of Izzy's fifth/octave inversion. Would you say he also didn't know the notes?

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him knowing or not playing them who cares 

i'm clearly deaf and don't know what im talking about 

14 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

I can't tell you how there's clearly nothing wrong there. Slash plays the outro first, then Richard and Duff (now with the bass) join him after. The only thing that Richard does is what I said in the G chord. It's just his own touch. 

This. Richard also plays some additional stuff in Estranged in the break section before the drums kick in and nobody ever complained about that.

listen carefully prior to (just little patience...) skips the notes ENTIRELY there a pin pointed it 

he makes either a feeble attempt to try and do them or skips them, i think he doesn't know them 

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26 minutes ago, James Bond said:

Gilby used to double a lot of Slash's parts instead of playing the Izzy variations. Paradise City is a very clear example where he doubles Slash's single note riff instead of Izzy's fifth/octave inversion. Would you say he also didn't know the notes?

Also on Rocket Queen. Izzy's rhythm guitar in this song is one of his finest, and Gilby ignored it. He had years after he joined the band to learn it properly too.

17 minutes ago, double talkin jive mfkr said:

him knowing or not playing them who cares 

i'm clearly deaf and don't know what im talking about 

listen carefully prior to (just little patience...) skips the notes ENTIRELY there a pin pointed it 

he makes either a feeble attempt to try and do them or skips them, i think he doesn't know them 

I did. There's no skips there. 

And you have to decide if you care or not if he knows how to play it.

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5 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

Also on Rocket Queen. Izzy's rhythm guitar in this song is one of his finest, and Gilby ignored it. He had years after he joined the band to learn it properly too.

I did. There's no skips there. 

And you have to decide if you care or not if he knows how to play it.

we talking about gilby? i wasn't 

long story sort this incarnation is the big three with others that have zero intuition on groove along with choosing to ignore key parts or just knowing them and it's the least close version of GNR, slash wth myles, VR, adlers appetite all sound closer to what it should - its a shame cause when axl is on it becomes even more noticeable 

5 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

Also on Rocket Queen. Izzy's rhythm guitar in this song is one of his finest, and Gilby ignored it. He had years after he joined the band to learn it properly too.

I did. There's no skips there. 

And you have to decide if you care or not if he knows how to play it.

well he sure gets it wrong, 20% 

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3 minutes ago, double talkin jive mfkr said:

we talking about gilby? i wasn't 

long story sort this incarnation is the big three with others that have zero intuition on groove along with choosing to ignore key parts or just knowing them and it's the least close version of GNR, slash wth myles, VR, adlers appetite all sound closer to what it should - its a shame cause when axl is on it becomes even more noticeable 

well he sure gets it wrong, 20% 

Why not talk about Gilby? It's better than trying to blame another guy for no reason at all.

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53 minutes ago, James Bond said:

Slash varied his arpeggios in Patience on a nightly basis on the UYI Tour. Embellishing is different than not knowing the song.

I'm sure I recall him saying that he actually never plays the same solo live twice - that he changes everything slightly all the time. 

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You guys realize we are going on about who Is the best at butchering a song. We know we know no one is good as Izzy I slur like no other stradlin. It’s like if you have a phenomenal first lay with a mega hot porn star and the whole candy store is open boys. Then when you get to the second one it’s still good but man the technique of the first chick! You chaps follow?

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1 hour ago, Rayvela said:

You guys realize we are going on about who Is the best at butchering a song. We know we know no one is good as Izzy I slur like no other stradlin. It’s like if you have a phenomenal first lay with a mega hot porn star and the whole candy store is open boys. Then when you get to the second one it’s still good but man the technique of the first chick! You chaps follow?

Not really.

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1 hour ago, Rayvela said:

You guys realize we are going on about who Is the best at butchering a song. We know we know no one is good as Izzy I slur like no other stradlin. It’s like if you have a phenomenal first lay with a mega hot porn star and the whole candy store is open boys. Then when you get to the second one it’s still good but man the technique of the first chick! You chaps follow?

what

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