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they're predicting a new "roaring 20s" and I can certainly see that happening too.

If this epidemy lasts longer, then there will be a cultural reaction when things are back to normal. There will be allowed more, taboos will be broken, I predict political correctness dying a certain death.

But for that to happen, the epidemy must last a couple of years longer (I don't want this of course!). If it ends now, I do not see it happening. But imagine, if this nightmare lasts for another 3-4 years, and then it stops, do you imagine creativity being stopped by something as futile as political correctness, when we're coming of the back of 4 years of absolute sorrow?

People will actually start to reaslise what is really important in life: your health. But this is a slow and difficult process. I'm not sure people are quite there yet. In the midst of corona, there still seems to be room for diversions like political correctness. But you can already clearly notice, more and more people being fed up with it, and having more urgent matters at hand.

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What the fuck do they know? If I'm looking for advice from a rock band on how viruses are transmitted I will ask Queen thank you very much.

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2 hours ago, action said:

they're predicting a new "roaring 20s" and I can certainly see that happening too.

If this epidemy lasts longer, then there will be a cultural reaction when things are back to normal. There will be allowed more, taboos will be broken, I predict political correctness dying a certain death.

But for that to happen, the epidemy must last a couple of years longer (I don't want this of course!). If it ends now, I do not see it happening. But imagine, if this nightmare lasts for another 3-4 years, and then it stops, do you imagine creativity being stopped by something as futile as political correctness, when we're coming of the back of 4 years of absolute sorrow?

People will actually start to reaslise what is really important in life: your health. But this is a slow and difficult process. I'm not sure people are quite there yet. In the midst of corona, there still seems to be room for diversions like political correctness. But you can already clearly notice, more and more people being fed up with it, and having more urgent matters at hand.

Don't care to predict the consequence., but I now know how something like the Third Reich could occur from a democratic country like (Weimer) Germany. I have read - own - a multitude of books on that subject and don't now believe I understood a thing about ''the process'' until witnessing 2020 in the United Kingdom. Servile masses obedient to reiterated governmental propaganda statements. Hysterical public umbrage over (non-abeyance of) totem iconography (the mask!) and behaviour. ''Wrong'' opinions obliterated from democratic discourse, and drowned out in a cacophony of stupidity and insults. Centuries of libertarian tradition and legislation eradicated within weeks. An Orwellian nightmare in just one year.

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18 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

Don't care to predict the consequence., but I now know how something like the Third Reich could occur from a democratic country like (Weimer) Germany. I have read - own - a multitude of books on that subject and don't now believe I understood a thing about ''the process'' until witnessing 2020 in the United Kingdom. Servile masses obedient to reiterated governmental propaganda statements. Hysterical public umbrage over (non-abeyance of) totem iconography (the mask!) and behaviour. ''Wrong'' opinions obliterated from democratic discourse, and drowned out in a cacophony of stupidity and insults. Centuries of libertarian tradition and legislation eradicated within weeks. An Orwellian nightmare in just one year.

couldn't fucking agree more.

I'm the biggest cynic you'll ever meet, but this year has seriously scared me shitless. Not because of corona, but because of the social mechanics you just described.

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20 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

Don't care to predict the consequence., but I now know how something like the Third Reich could occur from a democratic country like (Weimer) Germany. I have read - own - a multitude of books on that subject and don't now believe I understood a thing about ''the process'' until witnessing 2020 in the United Kingdom. Servile masses obedient to reiterated governmental propaganda statements. Hysterical public umbrage over (non-abeyance of) totem iconography (the mask!) and behaviour. ''Wrong'' opinions obliterated from democratic discourse, and drowned out in a cacophony of stupidity and insults. Centuries of libertarian tradition and legislation eradicated within weeks. An Orwellian nightmare in just one year.

don't forget the changing of truths overnights, and being accepted by the mindless mass (this includes the experts) without as much as a second thought.

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18 minutes ago, action said:

don't forget the changing of truths overnights, and being accepted by the mindless mass (this includes the experts) without as much as a second thought.

To paraphrase Star Wars, these are not the scientists you are looking for, https://gbdeclaration.org/

And social media companies ''censoring'' differing opinions on subjects such as the vaccines! 

Forgot to mention the policing who have been acting like Nazis the world over - some of the footage is utterly deplorable. 

 

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1 minute ago, DieselDaisy said:

To paraphrase Star Wars, these are not the scientists you are looking for, https://gbdeclaration.org/

Forgot to mention the policing who have been acting like Nazis the world over - some of the footage is utterly deplorable. 

there's also a markable increase of snitchers who report lockdown parties to the police. in the 30's we got german housewives reporting jews staying with the neighbours, now we got the same old wives reporting corona parties.

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there's also a markable increase of snitchers who report lockdown parties to the police. in the 30's we got german housewives reporting jews staying with the neighbours, now we got the same old wives reporting corona parties.

That is how the Reich essentially operated, curtain twitchy snitchers and demonstrative ''outings'' of the non-compliant. They indoctrinated children through the Hitler Youth to snitch on their parents if their parents possessed ''anti-party'' sentiment. We see a similar proposal in the Scottish hate bill and wokeish ideology in general.

2020 is the year Orwell's prophecy came true. 

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5 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

That is how the Reich essentially operated, curtain twitchy snitchers and demonstrative ''outings'' of the non-compliant. They indoctrinated children through the Hitler Youth to snitch on their parents if their parents possessed ''anti-party'' sentiment. We see a similar proposal in the Scottish hate bill and wokeish ideology in general.

2020 is the year Orwell's prophecy came true. 

the orwellian "screens", or smartphones, play a big part in the corona narrative. They're now wondering wether to force the corona app to the population. But what about people like me, who don't own a smartphone? Will I be dismissed as a criminal? And all these QR codes you need to scan lately, in order to get anything done. I wouldn't even know how to do that. I once tried to photograph such a code, then download a QR scanner on my laptop and uploaded the picture, but the QR app didn't reckognise it. What a load of BS

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one thing that could ease your mind if you fear orwell is here: in orwell's book, you had the mindless mass who were ignorant and not a member of the party. They had no rights whatsoever, but were generally left alone by the government as being generally harmless and not structured and were able to shag their loved one. That will be my strategy, going forward: act ignorant and not be involved with anything. So far, this policy has saved me from a lot of the corona BS (mandatory passengers records, testing, vaccinating, queues, barometer apps etc)

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26 minutes ago, action said:

the orwellian "screens", or smartphones, play a big part in the corona narrative. They're now wondering wether to force the corona app to the population. But what about people like me, who don't own a smartphone? Will I be dismissed as a criminal? And all these QR codes you need to scan lately, in order to get anything done. I wouldn't even know how to do that. I once tried to photograph such a code, then download a QR scanner on my laptop and uploaded the picture, but the QR app didn't reckognise it. What a load of BS

Well I do own a smartphone and it is too old or cheap apparently to handle the government's track and trace software. My answer when one of these corona fascists said ''just download the app'' being: ''well you'll have to buy me a new phone then'' (who am I kidding? I wouldn't irrespective).

 

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1 hour ago, DieselDaisy said:

 I now know how something like the Third Reich could occur from a democratic country like (Weimer) Germany. I have read - own - a multitude of books on that subject and don't now believe I understood a thing about ''the process'' until witnessing 2020 in the United Kingdom. 

don't you just love it when you hit a new level of understanding, like this. there's no better source for knowledge than experience. books, are just to show off. Experience doesn't lie, books do lie sometimes and you never know when.

this is why I love old people so much. they're treated like garbage during this epidemy, but they're real treasures of whisdom. They have been through it all, many times over. You wonder, should I enter this engagement, and they have it all figured out by the look of things. My mate was on his previous wedding, when he was talking about his then wife to an older person and he explained how she didn't help in the household, sat on her ass all day and he brought in all the money, but that it was ok because of reasons. and the older person just looked at him and went "it's still not much that she's contributing in your marriage, is it?". truths that hit you like a hammer. less than two years later they were divorced.

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19 hours ago, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said:

Yeah, saw that on CNN. More of that mutant virus is moving around the world. I'm sure it's already in America. I think this covid virus has a brain and is moving on to another version since we have a vaccine now. I know this virus attacks your lungs, but it also has fucked up your other organs including the brain. Maybe it's getting smarter now? I'm not kidding. I bet it is a super virus. Next up, zombies.

Are you Karl Pilkington?

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Always remember that the people clamouring for, and forcing, you to destroy your businesses, employment and savings, the parliamentarians (£81,932 ave p.y) and their scientific advisors, the homeworking public sector (e.g. teachers) and the vacuous celebrity ''luvvies'', et al., are all relatively or completely unaffected (socio-economically) by the lockdown, and in some instances have even benefited due to the existence of corona. Patrick Vallance, chief science advisor to the British government, is a £600,000 share holder in GlaxoSmithKline! Chris Whitty is on at least £134,000. And here is how Rishi Sunak, Chancellor of the Exchequer, ''slums it'' during the height of (second wave) lockdown, pubs shut etc etc: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9013989/Rishi-Sunak-Eats-Help-billionaire-heiress-wife.html.

Compare with the millions in the hospitality sector who've lost their livelihoods and ran through their cash savings!

Further, hypocrisy is prevalent among the users of the ''covididiots''. The ones willing to use ''covididiots'' and ''wear your mask'' the most, and advocate dismissals/resignations of those seen flouting rules, seem to be the ones more liable to break lockdown/social distancing rules!! Sturgeon, Ferrier and Catherine Calderwood (SNP); Kay Burley (SKY); Lineker; Piers Morgan; the list goes on.

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''Let him who is without sin cast the first stone''.

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can't believe people still listen to the media. for generations, they have lied to us about everything, as our parents and grandparents can attest to. why would it be different today?

when did the media ever "not" lie to us?

I just play along, be goody goody and nod in agreement, then turn around and do as I please.

but dare to criticise the consensus openly, and you're quickly canceled.

I've said to my wife the other day, there are three levels of intelligence; the stupid (the majority), those who are knowledgeable (but still make the wrong decisions and boast about them) and those who are truly intelligent (and make the right decisions and preferrably keep those to themselves)

the greatest whisdom comes with shutting your mouth when faced with the truth. It's so damn hard to do, because you can't keep silent without a certain level of sociopathology 

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I honestly think covid fascists and covid idiots are thoroughly correlated. They are the same people. A lot of these nutters approaching people in public for mask flouting that appear on phone camera clips have masks below their nose and are breaking the social distancing rule. 

Easiest way to find a covididiot (not that I would use that term, but for case of argument...)? Ask this question: is he/she accusing somebody of being a covididiot? There is your very person. 

The hypocrisy.

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can't believe people still listen to the media. for generations, they have lied to us about everything, as our parents and grandparents can attest to. why would it be different today?

when did the media ever "not" lie to us?

I just play along, be goody goody and nod in agreement, then turn around and do as I please.

but dare to criticise the consensus openly, and you're quickly canceled.

I've said to my wife the other day, there are three levels of intelligence; the stupid (the majority), those who are knowledgeable (but still make the wrong decisions and boast about them) and those who are truly intelligent (and make the right decisions and preferrably keep those to themselves)

the greatest whisdom comes with shutting your mouth when faced with the truth. It's so damn hard to do, because you can't keep silent without a certain level of sociopathology 

I have actually started watching Russian news (RT) in the morning haha. That is how biased the BBC and Sky now are. Putin's Russia offers more unbiased coverage haha. 

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4 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said:

I have actually started watching Russian news (RT) in the morning haha. That is how biased the BBC and Sky now are. Putin's Russia offers more unbiased coverage haha. 

I take pictures with my camera made in the DDR in the early 80s, still works like a tank. Russian built quality. it once belonged to my dad.

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I tell you, the quality of the pictures taken with this one, easily rivals the most expensive 4K camera. the sheer depth of the colours and detail. Progression is going backwards in many cases.

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These PCR etc tests are all the thing now too fly any where but you may test clear at the Airpodt but you can still pick this virus up in transit or even when landing in your destination 

You only have too look at LHR departure bored NYC DXB IAD MEX flights too all parts of the world still taking off

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If doctors really wanted people to stay home, they should have made the government close the airports. If people traveled over Thanksgiving what made anyone think they wouldn't  have traveled over Christmas.

No one gives a shit, hence we have covid. Now covid is mutating into a more contagious version. lol they think the vaccine "should" help with that version too. Yeah, should, would, could, but no one will give you a definite answer because they don't know.

I will get the vaccine when it's my turn and I hope my daughter can get one too, but if we're counting on everyone getting vaccinated to get rid of this virus, we're shit out of luck!

I have no faith in humanity at all.

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6 hours ago, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said:

I have no faith in humanity at all.

I get the sentiment, I really do, but I think 2020 shows humanity at its best, actually. This is not the first time we have been hit with a new disease, but contrary to previous pandemics that has ravaged humanity, this time we have mounted an international response through collaborations across borders between countries that would typically be enemies which has resulted in an unprecedented sharing of important data on the disease and its active agent, which in turn has resulted in us developing a brand new workable treatment in less than a year. Not only that, many countries have been successful in combating repeated waves/outbreaks of the disease mostly through recommendations and suggestions on social distancing and through tracking how the virus have moved through populations, something we wouldn't have had the systems for only a few decades ago. And for most part, people have accepted that under such extraordinary times there will be extraordinary restrictions on how we can live our lives. My point is: Yes, this has been a terrible disease with many deaths, but how we have responded to the disease and the measures taken, are unlike anything in history and have reduced the death tolls substantially. That's a new for humanity and something we should be proud of. We have demonstrated a new ability to tackle novel diseases and we have learnt a fucking lot from this pandemic which will help us in the future when we get hit by more deadline diseases. I have never had so much faith in humanity as now.

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42 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

I get the sentiment, I really do, but I think 2020 shows humanity at its best, actually. This is not the first time we have been hit with a new disease, but contrary to previous pandemics that has ravaged humanity, this time we have mounted an international response through collaborations across borders between countries that would typically be enemies which has resulted in an unprecedented sharing of important data on the disease and its active agent, which in turn has resulted in us developing a brand new workable treatment in less than a year. Not only that, many countries have been successful in combating repeated waves/outbreaks of the disease mostly through recommendations and suggestions on social distancing and through tracking how the virus have moved through populations, something we wouldn't have had the systems for only a few decades ago. And for most part, people have accepted that under such extraordinary times there will be extraordinary restrictions on how we can live our lives. My point is: Yes, this has been a terrible disease with many deaths, but how we have responded to the disease and the measures taken, are unlike anything in history and have reduced the death tolls substantially. That's a new for humanity and something we should be proud of. We have demonstrated a new ability to tackle novel diseases and we have learnt a fucking lot from this pandemic which will help us in the future when we get hit by more deadline diseases. I have never had so much faith in humanity as now.

2020 was worse than 2019, and 2019 was worse than the year before, and so on.

Year after year, the BS is increasing, and it's always something new they find to disturbe our peace with. terrorists, fukushima, large forest infernos, the gulf of mexico, greta thunberg, creepy diseases

humanity at it's best?

- toilet paper collecting

- lack of any european coordination: no uniform coloured zones, no uniform curfew, no uniform vaccination strategy, no uniform vaccin period,

- an increase in snitchyness with the common people

- a total and utter lack of respect to old people

as for the vaccin itself, we'll see. You're selling the bear's fur before it's shot

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Three-four days max on surfaces areas? Possibly you could have eradicated corona if everyone locked themselves in doors for two-three weeks. May have been preferable to what looks like is transpiring into two years of waves, tiers, quasi-lockdowns and general nonsense. Emergency workers only permitted outside. Deliver food/pharmaceuticals via aid parcels to needy. Problem solved - there I have just solved corona.

Further, it would have cost a fraction of cost/logistics of the Nightingale white elephants and the track and trace app disaster.

One sharp extreme lockdown rather than two years of back-and-forth confusion. 

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