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49 minutes ago, downzy said:

I figure most people will get this isn’t real, but just in case:

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-cnn-fabricatedarticlevaccine-idUSL1N2PY1OJ

This article might be fake, but you posted memes first.

BUT, when obesity is a primary driver, let's not pretend the meme isn't relevant.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were-overweight-or-obese.html

Don't be obese.  It's that simple.  I'd think the people who aren't obese, should have the option of living a normal life.  You know, like it was prior to Feb/Mar 2020. 

 

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Aren't fat people at much higher risk from being killed from COVID than healthy folks? I get the above article is a joke, but it does have a point.

I have no problem with vaccines, I'll do what I please with my own body, but I think people need to think of additional defense mechanisms to being safe from this virus, and part of that is getting in good physical shape.

I'm doing that. Dropped some weight already, working out more, and cut soda pop. Another reason I'm doing it is I'm talking to a woman who is all about a healthy lifestyle. Nothing like a nice ass and some pussy as a primary motivator, and being safe from COVID. Hahaha jk she's a blessing in so many other ways.

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29 minutes ago, Spike Killer said:

This article might be fake, but you posted memes first.

BUT, when obesity is a primary driver, let's not pretend the meme isn't relevant.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were-overweight-or-obese.html

Don't be obese.  It's that simple.  I'd think the people who aren't obese, should have the option of living a normal life.  You know, like it was prior to Feb/Mar 2020. 

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid19-protection-idUSL1N2PG1GH

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4 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

Thank you for posting that?  I don't understand the point, unfortunately.  

I have never said that not being obese (fit), would prevent you from contracting COVID-19.  Nor did I say that you shouldn't take the vaccine.  

But I am saying that

"CDC study finds about 78% of people hospitalized for Covid were overweight or obese"

78%!  That is a very high percentage.  If 78% of people hospitalized for COVID-19 enjoyed long walks on the beach, chocolate covered fruit, and tonic water - I'd think could laser focus efforts on those people, and not sabotage everyone else.

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I think it could be productive if the media could just take 10% of their COVID fearmongering energy and direct it towards the fact that obesity is the #1 correlate for COVID hospitalization.

Instead, they post articles like this:

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The above is not news. It does not provide info of any value. It tugs at the heartstrings to manipulate readers' emotions and get clicks. There is literally no possible other intention behind sharing the fact that two people died from COVID.

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12 hours ago, Spike Killer said:

This article might be fake, but you posted memes first.

BUT, when obesity is a primary driver, let's not pretend the meme isn't relevant.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were-overweight-or-obese.html

Don't be obese.  It's that simple.  I'd think the people who aren't obese, should have the option of living a normal life.  You know, like it was prior to Feb/Mar 2020. 

 

I don’t take issue with the argument that weight isn’t a factor. Where I have a problem is the contention or insinuation complicit in the “meme” you posted is that vaccines aren’t effective if you’re obese.  Vaccines have been proven effective for those challenged by weight. The other issue is the statistics around weight are pre Delta variant. It’s still unknown how much weight is a factor with the delta variant. 

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5 hours ago, Spike Killer said:

Oh, I see what you are doing.  It is a very weak argument. 

You suggested that as long as people aren't fat then Covid-19 isn't a problem ("Don't be obese. It's that simple") and I posted a link to an article that points out that being slim isn't a guarantee against Covid-19. 

No one is saying obesity isn't a co-morbidity, but you were way simplifying it. 

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2 hours ago, SoulMonster said:

Both my kids in quarantine now because they have been in near contact with someone with the disease (in class or at music practice). I think the entire school is in quarantine now actually. We opened up recently (no restrictions for kids - normal school, normal activities), and the Delta variant has practically shut us down in a swift response. 

Lots of arguments in the media because of this. Some are saying we are sacrificing our kids because of "long covid". Some are questioning why we aren't shutting down again now with cases being record high. 

Personally, with more than 50% fully vaccinated now and everybody over the age of 18 having been offered the vaccines, I am fine with this. The kids would have got the disease anyway at some point and as long as they are not affected much (there is little evidence for "long covid" being a problem after 6 months), and as long as not many above 18 get sick, this is the way forward, in my opinion. The vaccine is here, most people have been vaccinated (I think 70-80% have the first dose), there is not much more we can do expect delay the inevitable - it is time to control this towards the conclusion.

Hope your kids are okay and it's just a precaution.

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JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — As patients stream into Mississippi hospitals one after another, doctors and nurses have become all too accustomed to the rampant denial and misinformation about COVID-19 in the nation’s least vaccinated state.

People in denial about the severity of their own illness or the virus itself, with visitors frequently trying to enter hospitals without masks. The painful look of recognition on patients’ faces when they realize they made a mistake not getting vaccinated. The constant misinformation about the coronavirus that they discuss with medical staff.

“There’s no point in being judgmental in that situation. There’s no point in telling them, ‘You should have gotten the vaccine or you wouldn’t be here,’” said Dr. Risa Moriarity, executive vice chair of the University of Mississippi Medical Center’s emergency department. “We don’t do that. We try not to preach and lecture them. Some of them are so sick they can barely even speak to us.”

Mississippi’s low vaccinated rate, with about 38% of the state’s 3 million people fully inoculated against COVID-19, is driving a surge in cases and hospitalizations that is overwhelming medical workers. The workers are angry and exhausted over both the workload and refusal by residents to embrace the vaccine.

Physicians at the University of Mississippi Medical Center, the only level one trauma center in all of Mississippi, are caring for the sickest patients in the state.

The emergency room and intensive care unit are beyond capacity, almost all with COVID patients. Moriarity said it’s like a “logjam” with beds in hallways, patients being treated in triage rooms. Paramedics are delayed in responding to new calls because they have to wait with patients who need care.

In one hospital in Mississippi, four pregnant women died last week, said state health officer Dr. Thomas Dobbs. Three of the cases required emergency C-sections and babies were born severely premature.

“This is the reality that we’re looking at and, again, none of these individuals were vaccinated,” Dobbs said.

Moriarity said it’s hard to put into words the fatigue she and her colleagues feel. Going into work each day has become taxing and heartbreaking, she said.

“Most of us still have enough emotional reserve to be compassionate, but you leave work at the end of the day just exhausted by the effort it takes to drug that compassion up for people who are not taking care of themselves and the people around them,” she said.

During a recent news conference, UMMC’s head, Dr. LouAnn Woodward, fought back tears as she described the toll on healthcare workers.

“We as a state, as a collective, have failed to respond in a unified way to a common threat,” Woodward said.

As the virus surges, hospital officials are begging residents to get vaccinated. UMMC announced in July that it will mandate its 10,000 employees and 3,000 students be vaccinated, or wear a N95 mask on campus. By the end of August, leaders revised that policy, vaccination is the only option.

Moriarity said this surge has taken a toll on morale more than previous peaks of the virus. Her team thought in May and June that despite Mississippi’s low vaccination rate, there was an end in sight. The hospital’s ICUs were empty and they had few COVID patients. Then cases surged with the delta variant of the virus, swamping the hospital.

Numbers of total coronavirus hospitalizations in Mississippi have dipped slightly, with just under 1,450 people hospitalized for coronavirus on Sept. 1, compared with around 1,670 on Aug. 19. But they are still higher than numbers during previous surges of the virus.

In the medical center’s children’s hospital, emergency room nurse Anne Sinclair said she is tired of the constant misinformation she hears, namely that children can’t get very ill from COVID.

“I’ve seen children die in my unit of COVID, complications of COVID, and that’s just not something you can ever forget,” she said.

“It’s very sobering,” continued Sinclair, who is the parent of a 2-year-old and a 5-year-old and worries for their safety. “I just wish people could look past the politics and think about their families and their children.”

To deal with overflow COVID patients, Christian relief charity Samaritan’s Purse set up an emergency field hospital in the parking garage of UMMC’s children’s hospital.

The hospital is treating an average of 15 patients a day, with the capacity for seven ICU patients.

Nurse Kelly Sites, who has also treated COVID patients in hotspots like California and Italy, said it’s heartwrenching to know that some of the severe cases could have been prevented with the vaccine. Many patients are so sick they can’t talk. Nurses walk around with scripture verses on duct tape on their scrubs and will recite them to their patients.

Samaritan’s Purse is an international disaster relief organization with missions spanning multiple continents. Sites has responded to 20 missions, in Haiti, the Philippines, Liberia, the Democratic Republic of Congo and other places.

“To respond to the United States is quite surreal for us,” she said. “It’s a challenge because usually, home is stable. And so when we deploy, we’re just going to the disaster. This is the first time where home is a disaster.”

Mississippi's Low Vaccination Rate Leaves Hospitals In Crisis | HuffPost

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My daughter has Covid currently. She tested positive a week ago after going to a festival. She seems okay so far - feels a bit tired and has a cold. She did say it's weird that the symptoms go up and down, disappearing for a while then coming back. She lost her smell and taste which was the first symptom.

I'm not overly worried, I keep checking in with her every couple of days to see how she feels because I know you can feel like you're recovering then suddenly get worse. Her boyfriend is in isolation with her but despite also going to the festival and being in the same house he's remained negative so far.

They've both only had one jab but hoping they're young enough for that to be enough. They could have been double jabbed by now but like many 20 somethings didn't make it a priority. I think my persistent nagging is the reason they have at least one. :lol:

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34 minutes ago, alfierose said:

My daughter has Covid currently. She tested positive a week ago after going to a festival. She seems okay so far - feels a bit tired and has a cold. She did say it's weird that the symptoms go up and down, disappearing for a while then coming back. She lost her smell and taste which was the first symptom.

I'm not overly worried, I keep checking in with her every couple of days to see how she feels because I know you can feel like you're recovering then suddenly get worse. Her boyfriend is in isolation with her but despite also going to the festival and being in the same house he's remained negative so far.

They've both only had one jab but hoping they're young enough for that to be enough. They could have been double jabbed by now but like many 20 somethings didn't make it a priority. I think my persistent nagging is the reason they have at least one. :lol:

Well done on you as a mother. 

Sounds like she is only mildly affected. Hoping it will stay that way. It most likely will. With one dose she has about 60-80% less chance of developing serious symptoms, and she must be young which again protects her. I am confident she will soon be 100% again.

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Not to be mean, but was she really healthy? Sometimes people don't know what's going on with their own bodies unless you go to your doctor regularly.

Anyway, it sucks that so many people aren't getting vaccinated and that includes nurses, teachers, school bus drivers, firemen and cops. I don't understand this at all.

44 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

Negative tests on both daughters. Back to school tomorrow.

Great news! Keeping our kids safe and healthy is the main job of us parents. I just wish all parents felt this way.

One doctor said it's not just your child at risk, but think of the other children who are in school with your child.

We have to stop being selfish when it comes to our kids.

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4 minutes ago, Gavin82 said:

Damn it.

Numbers are way up here in Texas as well as many other states in America. 

If we don't all get vaccinated, this virus won't ever go away.

This just shows you how many selfish people there are in the world.

Stay well.

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