With the COVID virus, is it becoming more apparent that GnR only cares about money?

[username]

These are strange times. People around the world are isolated in their homes, cut off from loved ones, unable to attend almost all the social activities they normally would. And in the midst of all that, you see people coming up with tons of incredible and creative ways to still create a sense of togetherness and unity. One of the many ways this is happening is through artists taking to the internet to cheer up and support their fanbases. From personal messages to online live performances to personal video's where they're playing or telling stories to sharing demo material or outtakes. And I think it's amazing because I don't think any of this is particularly profitable to them. It's artists trying to bring some cheer to the people who have supported then for years simply by staying in touch and keeping them slightly sane through all this. 

I've seen some things on Twitter from Slash and Duff, but that's pretty much it I think.

But nothing of the sort from "the GnR camp". Nothing supportive or fun or interesting. Because Guns n' Roses doesn't do charity or non-profit. Hey, kids, if you want to stay sane you can always buy a fucking yoyo. 

Edited April 7, 2020 by username

[jamillos]

In principle, I agree. As I said here:

On 26. 3. 2020 at 3:34 PM, jamillos said:

Right now? Fuck albums. Axl, Slash, and Duff: sit in one room, play some acoustic song – it doesn’t even have to be new, just some deep cut or a new cover would do – say a nice sentence or two about people needing to hold on, smile, wave... aaaand cut! Just upload it. 
How hard would that be, in times when others are releasing new records right now? 

 

[F*ck Fear]

I just had a conversation about this the other day.

If it wasn't for the sub forums and the great people on here, I wouldn't be here any longer.

This band has become a miserable piece of shit in my eyes, and I no longer support anything they do.

[SoulMonster]

30 minutes ago, username said:

These are strange times. People around the world are isolated in their homes, cut off from loved ones, unable to attend almost all the social activities they normally would. And in the midst of all that, you see people coming up with tons of incredible and creative ways to still create a sense of togetherness and unity. One of the many ways this is happening is through artists taking to the internet to cheer up and support their fanbases. From personal messages to online live performances to personal video's where they're playing or telling stories to sharing demo material or outtakes. And I think it's amazing because I don't think any of this is particularly profitable to them. It's artists trying to bring some cheer to the people who have supported then for years simply by staying in touch and keeping them slightly sane through all this. 

I've seen some things on Twitter from Slash and Duff, but that's pretty much it I think.

But nothing of the sort from "the GnR camp". Nothing supportive or fun or interesting. Because Guns n' Roses doesn't do charity or non-profit. Hey, kids, if you want to stay sane you can always buy a fucking yoyo. 

Nope.

And the band members have always been doing charity, they just don't typically make a fuss about it.

[Stay.Of.Execution]

At least we get some black n white pictures from Kat once in a while. 

[ThePreacher]

This is so true and it is also being talked about with the casuals also. I mean, i heard radioDJ also being discussed this here in Scadinavia.

Are they really that stupid? I mean AXL and YES-MEN/WOMEN of this band. Just look at the social media post's during this pandemic!

Edited April 7, 2020 by ThePreacher

[Italian girl]

yes

[Lies They Tell]

Honestly no activity during this isolation is better than some cringeworthy activity.

[action]

people really are waiting on TB's response to this epidemy?

GNR is a rock band. they play music.

I find it funny how every time there's something unusual happening in the world, people expect GNR to offer "their take" on it.

it's like one of those B list 80s action movies. "Robocop, do you have a message for the kids at home?" "stay out of trouble"

here's a thought. For condolence and support, why not talk to your partner / friends or something? Don't tell me you only have GNR in your life.

Edited April 7, 2020 by action

[WildStar]

9 minutes ago, action said:

people really are waiting on TB's response to this epidemy?

GNR is a rock band. they play music.

I find it funny how every time there's something unusual happening in the world, people expect GNR to offer "their take" on it.

it's like one of those B list 80s action movies. "Robocop, do you have a message for the kids at home?" "stay out of trouble"

here's a thought. For condolence and support, why not talk to your partner / friends or something? Don't tell me you only have GNR in your life.

I think it's more down to that there's supposed to be a tour starting in 6 weeks. Any generic response/update would be handy. They're looking to reschedule, they're hopeful of playing this year, wishing fans good health. 

Jarmo posted an article on Nightrain yesterday stating all gigs in Austria are cancelled in June! He works for Team Brazil. GNR were due to play Austria in June! So have Team Brazil been watching the news? 

[tbaugerud]

I wrote a similar piece a couple of days ago. Was deleted by mods very quickly.

Totally agree.

[Len Cnut]

It couldn't've be more apparent if they'd've come around your house and burned 'WE ARE ONLY ABOUT THE MONEY' into your retina with a high powered lazer pen.

EDIT:  actually, that would just leave you blind, wouldn't it?  Which, ironically, is what you are anyway if you expect shit from the lads.

Edited April 7, 2020 by Len Cnut

[EricA]

1 hour ago, WildStar said:

I think it's more down to that there's supposed to be a tour starting in 6 weeks. Any generic response/update would be handy. They're looking to reschedule, they're hopeful of playing this year, wishing fans good health. 

Jarmo posted an article on Nightrain yesterday stating all gigs in Austria are cancelled in June! He works for Team Brazil. GNR were due to play Austria in June! So have Team Brazil been watching the news? 

In regards to a cancellation /postponement of the tour, they'll have to wait and see how the situation develops in the other countries, regarding the extension of measures.

It doesn't make sense to cancel individual concerts bit by bit. Of course, Austria was the first country to announce that no events will take place in June, but it is very likely that the other countries will follow, and by then there will be a general decision.

There are other bands (like Rammstein) that would have done a European tour in May/June ( ALSO including a concert in Austria) and there is also no cancellation/postponement, or any further information, by yet.

I don't want to defend the lack of communication with the fans, but postponing a tour is a lot of work and takes it time.

Edited April 7, 2020 by EricA

[James Bond]

Brian May has been one of my favourite musicians to follow during this. Live streams of him just jamming in his living room, taking requests, and breaking down iconic Queen riffs. He's even posted playthroughs and encouraged musicians to take what he's played and have a "virtual jam" by adding your own drums, bass, etc...

[Axlr0s37]

49 minutes ago, EricA said:

In regards to a cancellation /postponement of the tour, they'll have to wait and see how the situation develops in the other countries, regarding the extension of measures.

It doesn't make sense to cancel individual concerts bit by bit. Of course, Austria was the first country to announce that no events will take place in June, but it is very likely that the other countries will follow, and by then there will be a general decision.

There are other bands (like Rammstein) that would have done a European tour in May/June ( ALSO including a concert in Austria) and there is also no cancellation/postponement, or any further information, by yet.

I don't want to defend the lack of communication with the fans, but postponing a tour is a lot of work and takes it time.

I think its safe to say Rammstein isn't happening and have more things to worry about. Like Till Linndemanns health. 

 

We don't know to what extent Covid-19 is affecting the lives of the people usually in the spotlight. In terms of their families health etc. Cut them some slack. I mean did you really expect an already reclusive man to become more public at a time when being a recluse is almost mandatory. 

[gavgnr]

I was sure of this before Coronavirus 

[DTJ80]

12 minutes ago, James Bond said:

Brian May has been one of my favourite musicians to follow during this. Live streams of him just jamming in his living room, taking requests, and breaking down iconic Queen riffs. He's even posted playthroughs and encouraged musicians to take what he's played and have a "virtual jam" by adding your own drums, bass, etc...

Has anyone asked him to play his original Catcher solo.....😂

[allwaystired]

What's weird is that in some ways they DON'T care about money. There are so many things they COULD do to take money from us in a way we'd be very happy with. I'd buy live albums, archive releases, new material obviously etc. But they don't want our money for these things. What I WON'T buy are things like laundry bags, toy trucks, and minature baseball bats.....which serve the purpose of making the band look like money grabbers while also providing something people don't seem to want. 

So, in a way, the money seems to be not an issue with them. Aside from very expensive tickets, there's nothing to spend any money on. I spend nearly nothing on GNR anymore as there simply isn't anything to buy. 

On the other hand, I think their lack of any sort of update (or even mention) of the tour that's due to start in a few weeks is awful. People have considerable money invested in tickets and travel etc.....but are being left totally in the dark about any sort of plans. All we know is that the concerts won't be happening......even though they're still on sale. No excuse of "well plans are being made" excuses them from at least acknowledging the fact that people are rightly concerned about where their money is, and what is going on. 

 

[EricA]

33 minutes ago, Axlr0s37 said:

I think its safe to say Rammstein isn't happening and have more things to worry about. Like Till Linndemanns health. 

 

We don't know to what extent Covid-19 is affecting the lives of the people usually in the spotlight. In terms of their families health etc. Cut them some slack. I mean did you really expect an already reclusive man to become more public at a time when being a recluse is almost mandatory. 

I don't know what your answer has to do with my post 

I just wanted to make clear that canceling / postponing a tour takes some time before there will be a official statement/decision.

At least to me it's clear that neither the one, nor the other tour will take place.

Edited April 7, 2020 by EricA

[Coma16]

It's been about the loot for years now.

[JohnnyRais]

You should lock down this forum. 

and send a message to TB, AXl etc. that basically says "Fuck U, we are no longer going to support you cunts"

They don't give a shit about us, and with the emergency the world is facing right now, they showed us even more.

No news, nothing, not even a word from them. 

for the first time in my life I don't give a shit about GnR anymore... too late, sorry.

This will be my last visit on this site. 

It's been nice coming here many times and read your topics and go through comments.

stay safe guys.

 

[vloors]

29 minutes ago, Axlr0s37 said:

I think its safe to say Rammstein isn't happening and have more things to worry about. Like Till Linndemanns health. 

 

We don't know to what extent Covid-19 is affecting the lives of the people usually in the spotlight. In terms of their families health etc. Cut them some slack. I mean did you really expect an already reclusive man to become more public at a time when being a recluse is almost mandatory. 

Self isolation is what Axl does best. The pandemic is just another excuse for him to do that and hide in his castle away from the world.

[Voodoochild]

To be fair, we don't even know how Axl is dealing with all this. I mean, I know I'm getting pretty bad anxiety problems - that's why I've been posting a lot more these days, lol. Sorry about that haha

Not trying to find excuses, but as we don't know anything, it's really not fair to judge by the worst case scenario.

As a band: sure, they really should release something. Even if it's a 2016 proshot, but SOMETHING would be a good way to give people something to hang on in all this. 

40 minutes ago, James Bond said:

Brian May has been one of my favourite musicians to follow during this. Live streams of him just jamming in his living room, taking requests, and breaking down iconic Queen riffs. He's even posted playthroughs and encouraged musicians to take what he's played and have a "virtual jam" by adding your own drums, bass, etc...

Yeah, the Hammer to Fall challenge was pretty good. He's awesome. 

I wonder if Slash would do the same if he would get a copyright strike lol

16 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

What's weird is that in some ways they DON'T care about money. There are so many things they COULD do to take money from us in a way we'd be very happy with. I'd buy live albums, archive releases, new material obviously etc. But they don't want our money for these things. What I WON'T buy are things like laundry bags, toy trucks, and minature baseball bats.....which serve the purpose of making the band look like money grabbers while also providing something people don't seem to want. 

So, in a way, the money seems to be not an issue with them. Aside from very expensive tickets, there's nothing to spend any money on. I spend nearly nothing on GNR anymore as there simply isn't anything to buy. 

On the other hand, I think their lack of any sort of update (or even mention) of the tour that's due to start in a few weeks is awful. People have considerable money invested in tickets and travel etc.....but are being left totally in the dark about any sort of plans. All we know is that the concerts won't be happening......even though they're still on sale. No excuse of "well plans are being made" excuses them from at least acknowledging the fact that people are rightly concerned about where their money is, and what is going on. 

 

This is very accurate. It all seems very odd, but this paradoxal nature of the band got old a long time ago. 

And yes, I'm talking about the band, not only Axl or Team Brazil. They all have responsibility. 

[WildStar]

1 hour ago, EricA said:

In regards to a cancellation /postponement of the tour, they'll have to wait and see how the situation develops in the other countries, regarding the extension of measures.

It doesn't make sense to cancel individual concerts bit by bit. Of course, Austria was the first country to announce that no events will take place in June, but it is very likely that the other countries will follow, and by then there will be a general decision.

There are other bands (like Rammstein) that would have done a European tour in May/June ( ALSO including a concert in Austria) and there is also no cancellation/postponement, or any further information, by yet.

I don't want to defend the lack of communication with the fans, but postponing a tour is a lot of work and takes it time.

That's true. I have a ticket for Rammstein. I forgot about that. 

But I don't know why any band rep wouldn't give an update even if it's just a generic update. It's weird that you go on the GNR and Rammstein sites and the first thing you see is about tickets for sale.

[EricA]

2 minutes ago, WildStar said:

That's true. I have a ticket for Rammstein. I forgot about that. 

But I don't know why any band rep wouldn't give an update even if it's just a generic update. It's weird that you go on the GNR and Rammstein sites and the first thing you see is about tickets for sale.

How can one forget to have a Rammstein ticket

But you're right, the thing with the on going ticket sales is plain dumb.