Popular Post downzy Posted May 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2020 For what it was, I enjoyed it. I wasn’t expecting a fully mastered live performance. This was straight from the soundboard with nothing else done. Reminds me of some of the soundboard bootlegs that have circulated over the years (Taiwan, Cleveland, etc). As a former musician it’s interesting to hear how professionals sound in a live setting without the wall of sound from that environment covering any flaws. All in all and for what it was, it was a fun giveaway. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedYourIllusion Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, downzy said: For what it was I enjoyed it. I wasn’t expecting a fully mastered live performance. This was straight from the soundboard with nothing else done. Reminds me of some of the soundboard bootlegs that have circulated over the years (Taiwan, Cleveland, etc). As a former musician it’s interesting to hear how professionals sound in a live setting without the wall of sound from that environment covering any flaws. All in all and for what it was, it was a fun giveaway. Honestly just made me think of the old pro-shots from the UYI tour; audio is stereo, but the guitars aren't separated into either channel correctly, both kind of in the center. Not mixed, so instruments somewhat overshadow each other at certain portions. It's funny, if you're someone like me who loves bootlegged live shows, the crazy jumps in quality and variation amongst recordings. Saskatoon sounds better, in terms of the dynamic range and instrument levels, and it's from a 27 year old VHS tapes. The Boston 2002 soundboard is pretty good, and yet ALL the Rock in Rio soundboard I've ever heard, no matter the artist, is just terrible. I enjoyed the songs though, can't wait for more Edited May 22, 2020 by UsedYourIllusion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 32 minutes ago, cqleonardo said: well, Metallica sells their shows on their site... That's why it's "worked". I don't believe that GNR cares because they just put it in a shelf somewhere Geez thats a fuckload of people attending!!!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOSIER GUNZ Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 i got into it. thank you GNR. it motivated me to plug in and jam to the dtj riff for the first time in forever, even though it was tuned to csharp,minor...apc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I think that it is a really promising sign that TB are doing this stuff, and I for one think that all in all it was a success. It got tons of fans onto this site and on Discord to all discuss the show as it was happening and gave us all a reason to be here at the same time for something. Little things like that go a long way in terms of giving us reasons to keep going on GNR fan sites and discussing the band 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOSIER GUNZ Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, WhazUp said: I think that it is a really promising sign that TB are doing this stuff, and I for one think that all in all it was a success. It got tons of fans onto this site and on Discord to all discuss the show as it was happening and gave us all a reason to be here at the same time for something. Little things like that go a long way in terms of giving us reasons to keep going on GNR fan sites and discussing the band kumbaya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lame ass security Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 hour ago, axlvai said: Well i didnt see it on time.... but i did just about some hours later.... and i read all the comments here. I dont want to sound a 'complainer complainer' but my general impresion of this is a 5/10. This is why: (in a very polite way) - This sound bad in terms of mixing maybe??? Im not sound expert but its sounded like with no equalizer, a flat sound. This is not the real representation of the band going live. - The cam mix sucks ass (a not clean ass). That far cam its pointless if you dont zoom in next to when Axl or Slash gonna make the shit explode. The man who worked on this needs to see some UYI shows URGENT and REPLICATE the formula. - Its time to finish some contracts with some hired members. FF first. - I will not criticize the voice of the motherfucker bc he have bad and good days do in it. I saw the last show on Mexico (via streaming) and he kick some fkn ass there. - i didnt got a boner seeing this.... or my eyes on tears...... or my arms on goosebumps, they need more work. I will not see this video again. My 1st and last time. "INCLOSING!....." the video and audio mix fucked up the magic. Adding some crap: When GnR released the 3D Bluray shit id got excited so much that i had to buy a new full HD TV with 3D and a good hometeather..... now if they will release a shit like this on 4k...... i dont will buy a new shit 4k tv OOH NOO. Just wanna say thanks for clarifying that it was "a not clean ass." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 29 minutes ago, UsedYourIllusion said: Honestly just made me think of the old pro-shots from the UYI tour; audio is stereo, but the guitars aren't separated into either channel correctly, both kind of in the center. Not mixed, so instruments somewhat overshadow each other at certain portions. It's funny, if you're someone like me who loves bootlegged live shows, the crazy jumps in quality and variation amongst recordings. Saskatoon sounds better, in terms of the dynamic range and instrument levels, and it's from a 27 year old VHS tapes. The Boston 2002 soundboard is pretty good, and yet ALL the Rock in Rio soundboard I've ever heard, no matter the artist, is just terrible. I enjoyed the songs though, can't wait for more I’ve never been nor would I ever pretend to be an audiophile so sound mixing/quality isn’t the most important thing for me. I get for those who are how this is a disappointment. What matters to me is getting to hear, whether decently mixed or not, a clean rendition of what is being recorded live. This also reminds me of my old band days when we would pay the sound mixer to record our shows. It was a great learning tool because we could pick up where we made mistakes. They were never mixed well, but well enough to notice where things went wrong if the did. I know people are complaining of not being able to hear everyone, but i watched and listened to it from my iphone with sound coming from my external speaker and could pick up almost everything, including Duff and Melissa’s backing vocals in CD (I think Duff fucks up after the first chorus). Bass isn’t pronounced but it’s still detectable (plus it’s bass, who gives a shit). And your right, Boston 02 was a great bootleg (even better show as I was in the audience that night). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Sadly i missing the streaming, i forgot the time it stream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Ratam said: Sadly i missing the streaming, i forgot the time it stream You can still watch the broadcast at GNR’s YouTube page. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Just now, downzy said: You can still watch the broadcast at GNR’s YouTube page. I will trying tomorrow, here now is almost 1.00Am time to . Thanks and good night to you 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycgunner Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I went to SLC, so this video is nice to see. Axl always sounds better in person than on video, at least to me. It’s a shame we have a recent show of Axl with his voice in top shape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedYourIllusion Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, downzy said: I’ve never been nor would I ever pretend to be an audiophile so sound mixing/quality isn’t the most important thing for me. I get for those who are how this is a disappointment. What matters to me is getting to hear, whether decently mixed or not, a clean rendition of what is being recorded live. This also reminds me of my old band days when we would pay the sound mixer to record our shows. It was a great learning tool because we could pick up where we made mistakes. They were never mixed well, but well enough to notice where things went wrong if the did. I know people are complaining of not being able to hear everyone, but i watched and listened to it from my iphone with sound coming from my external speaker and could pick up almost everything, including Duff and Melissa’s backing vocals in CD (I think Duff fucks up after the first chorus). Bass isn’t pronounced but it’s still detectable (plus it’s bass, who gives a shit). And your right, Boston 02 was a great bootleg (even better show as I was in the audience that night). Yeah, I know what you mean. I love the tracks on Live Era that don't have overdubs on the vocals, like You're Crazy, Don't Cry, Paradise City; despite the fact the album is brickwalled and loud. I still love listening to bootlegs, especially audience recordings, like the 1991 Stockholm shows, and the quality isn't soundboard. I just want good representations of how the performances are; so it's more about picking the right shows, than HiFi quality 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagszilla Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) Antifragile by Nassim Taleb. Good book. Guns is a fragile band. Axl for all his good traits, such as defense of the value of art, seems like a fragile human. 360p upscale to 1080 with a bad mix and horrid transcode? Video editing where a year one student could do better? Treating Axl like the wizard of oz? No interest in this band anymore. No balls. CD was cool. Praise robin. I’m done with GNR. byyyeeeeee Edited May 22, 2020 by Wagszilla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskingApathy Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Oldest Goat said: It's a start. Be better and do more please. Auckland 2017 show would be great. Yes 2 hours ago, gnr5 said: Today I learned: this incarnation of GNR needs Matt Sorum I've been saying that since the beginning of the reunion. Or Fitzy, he would totally blow everyone away. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonfender2323 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Wagszilla said: Antifragile by Nassim Taleb. Good book. Guns is a fragile band. Axl for all his good traits, such as defense of the value of art, seems like a fragile human. 360p upscale to 1080 with a bad mix and horrid transcode? Video editing where a year one student could do better? Treating Axl like the wizard of oz? No interest in this band anymore. No balls. CD was cool. Praise robin. I’m done with GNR. byyyeeeeee No you are not Is wrong to think Sorum was the worst Drummer for GNR and is a incomprehensible douchebag? Edited May 22, 2020 by Gibsonfender2323 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonfender2323 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Hank Moody said: ank is the luckiest guy in rock n roll, got to be the drummer on one of the most anticipated reunions of all time, sucks a lot and is still employed (they should get either Matt or Fitzy to play for them, because for four years straight he has sucked and it kind of takes something away from this whole thing); Franks been in this band since 2006 he knows the songs by heart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vloors Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gibsonfender2323 said: Franks been in this band since 2006 he knows the songs by heart. He for sure does not play them like he knows them by heart 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonfender2323 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, vloors said: He for sure does not play them like he knows them by heart Sound the same to me tight groove and everything. Fitz is an overrated drummer just generic like Singer and Freese. Edited May 22, 2020 by Gibsonfender2323 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragan1978 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I liked it axl was struggling even on ISE but could get pass by frank did a good job duff, good as usual richard, I like him, shows energy and that he enjoys slash, well, he is the KING! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) 1) I am grateful for the video, and please keep it coming in any case. 2) However, I am not impressed, at all. Sorry. I can understand it’s probably just the beginning, and you chose "safe" songs in terms of Axl’s voice. But the sound sucks, the camera/editing people would deserve a slap, and the video quality is ridiculous. Why am I not too surprised? TV pro-shots from years ago have a better audio quality than this! As for the camera/editing, we barely see Axl, and there’s still that pestilence that the cameraman shows a guitarist’s right hand instead of the left one, which is entirely useless and idiotic. I thought these morons disappeared with the 90s TV, but apparently not. I hope to god if they ever release a NITL dvd, it won’t be of this "professional" quality... Edited May 22, 2020 by jamillos 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reayj2003 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) Surely it’s obvious to everyone that the visual editing has nothing to do with the people tasked with doing the job. They’ve obviously been told no close up Axl footage is to be used. It’s embarrassing. The trolls who criticise Axl’s appearance have clearly gotten to the man. Edited May 22, 2020 by reayj2003 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelmi Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Wow it is so obvious that Axl is not being shown on purpose. You can see from the stage-view shots that its when Axl is shown inhouse screens.. and now everytime Axl is supposed to be in camera they just show the far away stage view 😁 amazing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonfender2323 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I wouldn’t mind if Axl used his 2001 voice that was clean and powerful but also used occasional “rasp” when he needed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskingApathy Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Gibsonfender2323 said: Franks been in this band since 2006 he knows the songs by heart. 1 hour ago, vloors said: He for sure does not play them like he knows them by heart I remember at one of the Vegas 2016 shows he messed up PC. He kept going with the beat for the verse instead of doing the snare & kick thing from the intro. 1 hour ago, Gibsonfender2323 said: Sound the same to me tight groove and everything. Fitz is an overrated drummer just generic like Singer and Freese. Lol ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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