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Riot shields or bust.  

Cant beleive its taken the band 3 months to do this, and Fernando only agreeing to do something like this when told to him directly by the fans. If GNR want to look at being a top tier band this

LARGER! LARGER TEXT!!! I CAN'T READ!!!

29 minutes ago, almozny said:

Seriously whose the enemy that chose this songs? Ok, i think it s going to be a smart move to put all the songs that Axl can´t sing well all together at once, yeah great idea, the fans deserve it.

GNR, your fading, it´s a pity your not taking advantage of the talent you have.

Let Slash make his own way, and make his own music.

I think his loosing his time, making this Eternal Remembering the Good Old Days Tour.

Sir this is a wendys

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5 minutes ago, UncleJosh said:

He is terrible.  Bad live tone and terrible phrasing.  He is ok on Alter Bridge studio stuff but live he sounds like ass.  He has and will never sound better than Axl even on Axl's worst days.

Just because you don’t like his style doesn’t mean he’s terrible. He’s played in two different successful bands for a long time for a reason. Someone who’s legitimately terrible couldn’t even dream of having the career he’s had. 

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The reality is, if the Ritz 88 show was a new show, people would complain about it. Set list is too short. Too many covers. Why did Axl disappear during RQ. Slash is just noodling on SCOM. 
 

I don’t think Paris 92 would do much better. Too many drum and guitar solos. No *insert song*.  
 

The current band are actually fairly awesome. Probably RQ is the only song I really don’t enjoy them doing. 
 

It’s Axl that is kinda dragging it down. The way he sings Slither is just all wrong. He physically can’t really sing YCBM or SCOM anymore.  
 

If Axl was singing well, people would love the band. The 2016 shows were really good. There wasn’t too many complaints back then, apart from maybe the tempo. 

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5 minutes ago, LikeADog93 said:

Just because you don’t like his style doesn’t mean he’s terrible. He’s played in two different successful bands for a long time for a reason. Someone who’s legitimately terrible couldn’t even dream of having the career he’s had. 

Obviously you are a fanboy and that is ok but a successful career and you being a fan does not make someone good enough to replace Axl.  I literally cannot listen to his live tone for more than a few seconds.  So in my opinion he is awful, terrible, and one of the worst live performers I have seen or heard.  And again I am a fan of his stuff with Alter Bridge.  Just not live.  When doing GNR songs he sounds worse than any local cover band.

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3 minutes ago, jacdaniel said:

The reality is, if the Ritz 88 show was a new show, people would complain about it. Set list is too short. Too many covers. Why did Axl disappear during RQ. Slash is just noodling on SCOM. 
 

I don’t think Paris 92 would do much better. Too many drum and guitar solos. No *insert song*.  
 

The current band are actually fairly awesome. Probably RQ is the only song I really don’t enjoy them doing. 
 

It’s Axl that is kinda dragging it down. The way he sings Slither is just all wrong. He physically can’t really sing YCBM or SCOM anymore.  
 

If Axl was singing well, people would love the band. The 2016 shows were really good. There wasn’t too many complaints back then, apart from maybe the tempo. 

It's funny you say that because I was not a fan of Paris 92 when I first watched it on PPV because I thought Axl's voice was shredded and sounded like shit compared other shows I saw live in the years prior.. 

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Ive never really got the huge love for the Ritz show...I confess Im a UYI fan over AFD...for me any 1992/3 show waaaaay better than the Ritz era...Slash became much better including his sound, Axls singing during 92 for me its his best, the performances have lots of energy...

Ive always seen Ritz as very good but as a band becoming something special, but a band that reached its peak afterwards

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9 hours ago, UcudBmine said:

I wonder who said "hey let's upload Slither, Rocket Queen, YCBM and SCOM. Axl always sounds great on those songs!"

They could not have picked worse songs than that. Maybe the first performance of Dead Horse from 2019.

RELEASE SOMETHING FROM 1986-1993 OR 2006/7, 2009/10.

2016 would be okay too.

 

Also I can't believe people are into this.

it's called nitl selects for a reason

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53 minutes ago, Alejandro GNR said:

Ive never really got the huge love for the Ritz show...I confess Im a UYI fan over AFD...for me any 1992/3 show waaaaay better than the Ritz era...Slash became much better including his sound, Axls singing during 92 for me its his best, the performances have lots of energy...

Ive always seen Ritz as very good but as a band becoming something special, but a band that reached its peak afterwards

There is just something that’s very pure about the AFD era. It’s just 5 guys that created and were playing some awesome music. Slash and Izzys guitars sounded amazing together.
 

Guns N Roses became quite a bit bloated after that and never returned to that Pureness again imo.

Whether there was 3 guitarists in the band, or 2 keyboard players, backing dancers, several musicians pasted onto 1 album... big budget music videos. The band was different. 
 

But I do agree that musically the band actually peaked in 92 and 93. 

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2 hours ago, Tom2112 said:

Yeah the drums are mixed to the back, butied by the guitars and bass. Theres barely any oomph off the kick drum, no snap off the snare, the hats are hard to hear at times and the crash and rides are inaudible in places. You're fantastic for knowing the term side chain compression👏👏🙆‍♂️ but if you think this is great then you have no clue about good mixes. 

Also, the bass is overpowering, and it's NOT supposed to do that. 

I love talking to experts that know so much😄

My guy, this more of a quality mix that 90% of GN'R-live footage releases.

Your nitpicks fucking ASTOUND me.

Best pro shot? Rock Am Ring. Guess what? EXACT SAME PRODUCTION MENTHODS. Big ol' bass frequencies. You should be LUCKY there's more mixes of Guns out there like that.

 

'Also, the bass is overpowering, and it's NOT supposed to do that.' You are a moron that hasn't been around for music in the past 20 years. West Coast G Funk wants to punch you in the face.

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1 hour ago, UncleJosh said:

Obviously you are a fanboy and that is ok but a successful career and you being a fan does not make someone good enough to replace Axl.  I literally cannot listen to his live tone for more than a few seconds.  So in my opinion he is awful, terrible, and one of the worst live performers I have seen or heard.  And again I am a fan of his stuff with Alter Bridge.  Just not live.  When doing GNR songs he sounds worse than any local cover band.

Myles Kennedy worse than local cover bands? Come on now, don’t be irrational. It’s ok that you prefer Axl, but it looks like your heavy bias towards him is clouding your judgement. Saying Kennedy is no better than a local cover band singer is just a ridiculous and uninformed statement. 

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16 minutes ago, SMG said:

My guy, this more of a quality mix that 90% of GN'R-live footage releases.

Your nitpicks fucking ASTOUND me.

Best pro shot? Rock Am Ring. Guess what? EXACT SAME PRODUCTION MENTHODS. Big ol' bass frequencies. You should be LUCKY there's more mixes of Guns out there like that.

 

'Also, the bass is overpowering, and it's NOT supposed to do that.' You are a moron that hasn't been around for music in the past 20 years. West Coast G Funk wants to punch you in the face.

What in the shite are you on about. You're talking utter gibberish, have you been drinking 😄

Not sure how you assessed I haven't been listening to music for the last 20yrs... completely wrong. The problem here is that I know good from bad, you on the other hand are a great example of a fan that cannot say if something is bad. Enjoy being a complete fool, you're excelling at it.

Yeah in funk the bass is supposed to be loud, duh! Last I checked gnr were a rock band... and the bass in rock is not supposed to overpower the guitar and be the loudest thing in the mix. You're the expert though, would love to hear your stellar mixes🤣

Finally, I never said Rock am ring was a good mix, but it was far more enjoyable than this and more balanced with the exception of a bumble solo here and there that was muted unintentionally.

Now buggar off, please and thanks! 

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3 minutes ago, LikeADog93 said:

Myles Kennedy worse than local cover bands? Come on now, don’t be irrational. It’s ok that you prefer Axl, but it looks like your heavy bias towards him is clouding your judgement. Saying Kennedy is no better than a local cover band singer is just a ridiculous and uninformed statement. 

Myles is incredible, he doesn't sound or try to sound like Axl though, so there are loads of fans who discredit him as a singer... when in reality the guy out performs Axl and is WAY more reliable. I prefer Axls voice, but Myles is excellent too.

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2 minutes ago, LikeADog93 said:

Myles Kennedy worse than local cover bands? Come on now, don’t be irrational. It’s ok that you prefer Axl, but it looks like your heavy bias towards him is clouding your judgement. Saying Kennedy is no better than a local cover band singer is just a ridiculous and uninformed statement. 

Well I have seen and heard Myles Kennedy and many local cover bands live and I stand by my statement.  Many singers in cover bands sound better than "famous and successful" singers but they might lack the drive, desire, or charisma or a lucky break than singers who "made it".  Hell I have heard cover band singers who blow away Axl too , so there is no bias happening.  My statement was neither ridicoulous nor uninformed as I mostly listen to live music and have been for over 35 years.  I like Myles on record but live he can't pull of what he does in studio.  And he cannot pull off GNR songs in my well researched opinion.  Some of the people Adler had in his bands blew Myles away for example.

We will have to agree to disagree on this. 

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12 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

What in the shite are you on about. You're talking utter gibberish, have you been drinking 😄

Not sure how you assessed I haven't been listening to music for the last 20yrs... completely wrong. The problem here is that I know good from bad, you on the other hand are a great example of a fan that cannot say if something is bad. Enjoy being a complete fool, you're excelling at it.

Yeah in funk the bass is supposed to be loud, duh! Last I checked gnr were a rock band... and the bass in rock is not supposed to overpower the guitar and be the loudest thing in the mix. You're the expert though, would love to hear your stellar mixes🤣

Finally, I never said Rock am ring was a good mix, but it was far more enjoyable than this and more balanced with the exception of a bumble solo here and there that was muted unintentionally.

Now buggar off, please and thanks! 

the mixing team and fernando were just looking at their west coast g funk spotify playlists for inspo 

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This version of Rocket Queen is really good.  Maybe it is because I am a guitarist, but I never got all the bashing on the extended jam on RQ!  I always love whenever Slash brings out the talk-box, and for all the people that don't like Slash's "shredder mode" this is where he shines because with the talk box solos he goes for more melodic motifs and are always the most reminiscent of UYI era Slash

 

The mix is such an improvement on this latest batch of songs.  Duff's bass crystal clear, the guitars both properly balanced and not dry, Axl's vocals blending in with the vocals so his more Mickey moments don't stick out as oddly.  To me it is a really good sign that TB is at least listening to the critiques and attempting to implement those improvements in these new videos

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1 hour ago, UncleJosh said:

Well I have seen and heard Myles Kennedy and many local cover bands live and I stand by my statement.  Many singers in cover bands sound better than "famous and successful" singers but they might lack the drive, desire, or charisma or a lucky break than singers who "made it".  Hell I have heard cover band singers who blow away Axl too , so there is no bias happening.  My statement was neither ridicoulous nor uninformed as I mostly listen to live music and have been for over 35 years.  I like Myles on record but live he can't pull of what he does in studio.  And he cannot pull off GNR songs in my well researched opinion.  Some of the people Adler had in his bands blew Myles away for example.

We will have to agree to disagree on this. 

Hahahahahha cover band singers better than Axl Rose ever or the actual?

If you mean better that 87-93 Axl you must be drunk or something man...

Axl was the most distinctive element in GnR, all members had their imput and importance, but Axl will be named forever when talking about the best rock/hard rock and even for some metal music...he wasnt just one more singer in the scene, he blew people away with his voice, performances and persona...that isnt common.

 

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1 hour ago, Tom2112 said:

What in the shite are you on about. You're talking utter gibberish, have you been drinking 😄

Not sure how you assessed I haven't been listening to music for the last 20yrs... completely wrong. The problem here is that I know good from bad, you on the other hand are a great example of a fan that cannot say if something is bad. Enjoy being a complete fool, you're excelling at it.

Yeah in funk the bass is supposed to be loud, duh! Last I checked gnr were a rock band... and the bass in rock is not supposed to overpower the guitar and be the loudest thing in the mix. You're the expert though, would love to hear your stellar mixes🤣

Finally, I never said Rock am ring was a good mix, but it was far more enjoyable than this and more balanced with the exception of a bumble solo here and there that was muted unintentionally.

Now buggar off, please and thanks! 

Dude your autism is flying out so hard right now.

The world has moved on from Appetite sonics, Aerosmith only a few years later with their 90s sound did the same stylistic application of compression of bass, it's literally the 'modern' production sound we all know today. 

 

 

You are silly and you type a lot of nothing.

 

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4 minutes ago, Alejandro GNR said:

Hahahahahha cover band singers better than Axl Rose ever or the actual...

If you mean better that 87-93 Axl you must be drunk or something man...

Axl was the most distinctive element in GnR, all members had their imput and importance, but Axl will be named forever when talking about the best rock/hard rock and even for some metal music...he wasnt just one more singer in the scene, he blew people away with his voice, performances and persona...that isnt common.

 

I wasn't referring to him overall as a frontman as I think he is one of the best ever and in my top 3 favorite singers all time.  But he is not infallible and there are lots of people who never made it who can sing better on a purely technical level. Listen to Indiana 91 and if you can say that no singer can sound better "technically" than that performance than I think you are blinded by bias. That doesn't mean that singer is a better performer or that they can convey the emotion and passion that Axl did but as far as hitting the notes cleanly, there are people out there who can do it.  I agree Axl is unique but the reason for their success was not only his amazing vocal talent. 

Maybe you need to get out more and listen to and see more live music to appreciate the level of talent some non famous people have.

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15 hours ago, adamsapple said:

They are not performing together, more like alongside.

And they sound total shit, ruining some of the best rock songs ever made. 

I've seen street musicians, trashy cover bands in pubs and even living room musicians on Youtube playing the songs with more love and life than these boring old farts who wrote them.

I'm not expecting them to sound like 1988 or still "feel" songs every night they've played a zillion times over and over again. Everyone gets older and everyone can have a bad day or a night off. It's ok, really. But this has absolutely no heart, no soul, no passion. Just posing for money and ego. Sad, absolutely sad.

They should just call it a day.

I agree, they look like they're on autopilot, especially on SCOM. That's probably why Slash messed up a little in that song, because he's off thinking about something else. He has looked way more into it, more passion and all that, when he's performed those songs with SMKC.

Imo it's Frank and Fortus who are doing most of the ruining, playing all sorts of nonsense that doesn't belong. 

8 hours ago, Tom-Ass said:

The disco is terrible.. So is Fortus on this one... His solo doesn't even sound like it belongs in the same room as the song.. Just doesn't fit. 

I've been saying that since the first Vegas show. Hated his solo and playing on RQ since then.

6 hours ago, DurhamGirl said:

Do you think Axl, Slash and Duff are enjoying themselves even if it is a cash grab?

Axl yes, Slash and Duff probably goes back and forth. Like Slash said to Matt, "it's just a gig."

4 hours ago, LikeADog93 said:

The Appetite lineup with Myles Kennedy instead of Axl would be great. It’ll never happen but sometimes it’s fun to play the what if game. 

I would pay to see that. Like when they did the hall of fame performance, that sounded great.

4 hours ago, Tom2112 said:

Yeah the drums are mixed to the back, butied by the guitars and bass. Theres barely any oomph off the kick drum, no snap off the snare, the hats are hard to hear at times and the crash and rides are inaudible in places. You're fantastic for knowing the term side chain compression👏👏🙆‍♂️ but if you think this is great then you have no clue about good mixes. 

Also, the bass is overpowering, and it's NOT supposed to do that. 

I love talking to experts that know so much😄

I agree about the drums. You want to see a good drum mix in a video, check out the SMKC Moshcam Sydney show or the proshots that came out last summer for them.

3 hours ago, LikeADog93 said:

I disagree. I’ve seen the Conspirators three times and Myles was great at each show. Way better than present day Axl. 

Yes 

1 hour ago, Tom2112 said:

Myles is incredible, he doesn't sound or try to sound like Axl though, so there are loads of fans who discredit him as a singer... when in reality the guy out performs Axl and is WAY more reliable. I prefer Axls voice, but Myles is excellent too.

100%, I think most people who say that they don't like him are doing it because he's not Axl and has never tried to sing like Axl. He does those songs in his own style and Slash clearly likes it. Myles is much more consistent too.

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