Free Bird 2,112 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, dando said: Thing is, with these YouTube vids, you all want them up, then when we've got them, all u do is complain about them If i was band management and saw all the moaning, i wouldn't release more either To collectively punishing even those who weren't complaining and are interested in more? No need to say most of the critism is understandable, though. It should be for their own good to select the best videos possible than some random stuff. Edited July 8, 2020 by Free Bird 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dando 180 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 32 minutes ago, feli1269 said: Yes, it's all criticism because they can't do this WEEKLY. We're really happy with this NITL Selects, we're only pissed off beacuse of the amateur movements they do. What are the difficulties of launching this weekly? Why is there always an excuse for everything? The video edition of the first NITL was practically null and still we were satisfied with it. Im not defending them at all, but nobody promised weekly video's, Fernando said they'd try or see if they could If you want perfect videos you aren't going to get them. Maybe the first 2 vegas / Coachella gigs but the setlist isnt great compared to 2018 to 20 Whatever we get they'll be someone unhappy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
feli1269 145 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, dando said: Im not defending them at all, but nobody promised weekly video's, Fernando said they'd try or see if they could If you want perfect videos you aren't going to get them. Maybe the first 2 vegas / Coachella gigs but the setlist isnt great compared to 2018 to 20 Whatever we get they'll be someone unhappy "They'd try or see if they could" - They has nothing to do apart from reschedule the tour (The management). A BIG BAND works as a company, there are sectors that take care of different things. If there is someone in charge of marketing, it is who has to take care of this together with the group that films all the shows and its producer or promoters of UMG / Geffen or whoever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dando 180 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 We all know download 18 was shot in full by Donnington themselves, just get the footage and release it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DurhamGirl 506 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Not criticism but discussion... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alejandro GNR 409 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 hour ago, dando said: Im not defending them at all, but nobody promised weekly video's, Fernando said they'd try or see if they could If you want perfect videos you aren't going to get them. Maybe the first 2 vegas / Coachella gigs but the setlist isnt great compared to 2018 to 20 Whatever we get they'll be someone unhappy He also said they didnt post for a while due to BLM hahahaa just ridiculous Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom-Ass 7,757 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 I thought the selects were a great idea but could care less if they released another one. All they do is showcase how bad Axl is and how mediocre this lineup is over all.... Mix in some selects from 87 - 93 please.... Or actually dig to find better performances from the last few years.. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GNR_RNR 337 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 The weirdest thing to me is that they clearly have the Troubadour 2016 with great quality video/audio just sitting there and yet won't release it. And then the first vid we got was some random show with little significance. At least Download 2018 was a a big performance and sounded good. Pretty sure fans would like to see the first time Axl & Slash shared the stage since '93. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StayofExecution2020 1,098 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 If you expect professionalism from a band that's run by an amateur (if that), then think again. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dando 180 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Alejandro GNR said: He also said they didnt post for a while due to BLM hahahaa just ridiculous Thats bullshit yes, releasing a video for Madagascar would have been fitting 11 minutes ago, GNR_RNR said: The weirdest thing to me is that they clearly have the Troubadour 2016 with great quality video/audio just sitting there and yet won't release it. And then the first vid we got was some random show with little significance. At least Download 2018 was a a big performance and sounded good. Pretty sure fans would like to see the first time Axl & Slash shared the stage since '93. Download was good, had some bad moments. The end of Coma for instance but 90% was very good & it's all recorded Weve had Easy, Jungle, Slither, Rocket, Attitude, YCBM and Scom so weve got 25% of it or so Quote Link to post Share on other sites
allwaystired 2,887 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, dando said: Thats bullshit yes, releasing a video for Madagascar would have been fitting Download was good, had some bad moments. The end of Coma for instance but 90% was very good & it's all recorded Weve had Easy, Jungle, Slither, Rocket, Attitude, YCBM and Scom so weve got 25% of it or so Judging by the video it was poor. SCOM sounded like a band about to collapse of boredom. I understand there's that 'I was actually there and it was good' thing but based on the video, it looks and sounds at best average. That seems to be the general view looking at the comments on here. Frankly though, at this point I have zero interest in seeing another YouTube clip of a song I've heard thousands of times. Things are very very boring at this point for all concerned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GNR_RNR 337 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, allwaystired said: Judging by the video it was poor. SCOM sounded like a band about to collapse of boredom. I understand there's that 'I was actually there and it was good' thing but based on the video, it looks and sounds at best average. That seems to be the general view looking at the comments on here. Frankly though, at this point I have zero interest in seeing another YouTube clip of a song I've heard thousands of times. Things are very very boring at this point for all concerned. Wouldn't say poor by any means. Simply an average performance for 2018 that sounded serviceable. And considering it contained a number of the weaker songs from the set I think it turned out great. Personally I'm looking forward to more select vids, the only annoying thing is that there's no decent schedule they currently follow. The two so far have been a fun watch, just always nice to have more. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom-Ass 7,757 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 42 minutes ago, GNR_RNR said: The weirdest thing to me is that they clearly have the Troubadour 2016 with great quality video/audio just sitting there and yet won't release it. Was that show even that good? I have watched some and don't remember being very impressed.. I thought they were disappointing overall until they kicked off the Stadium tour and finally started to hit their stride... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
F*ck Fear 1,121 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 4 hours ago, dando said: I get what you're saying but this is Team Brazil we're on about... No matter what i did good or bad, if all i got what criticism id do no more... Thats all im saying, and back to a good voice every night... They wont show 2006 or 10, or Acdc They're incompetent and I will not hold off on voicing my opinion about it because some are afraid we will not get some shitty videos. 2016 video's would have been a no-brainer, but one needs to have a brain in the first place to understand that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GNR_RNR 337 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tom-Ass said: Was that show even that good? I have watched some and don't remember being very impressed.. I thought they were disappointing overall until they kicked off the Stadium tour and finally started to hit their stride... From the videos I've heard of it the performance was fine, I'm sure Axl shattering his foot probably impacted his vocals somewhat but sounded decent regardless. Makes zero sense why they would sit on that especially when it's got some nice fidelity video. It's an important piece of GNR history that would be a nice thing to share with the fans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StayofExecution2020 1,098 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 @Fernando is a waste of sperm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnrjanus 86 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 The troubadour is not availible to do Think the rights lay with the camera crew and people to them. Thought there was a release planned but didnt pen out cause due to money dispute between gnr and the filming/editing crew... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dando 180 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 hour ago, allwaystired said: Judging by the video it was poor. SCOM sounded like a band about to collapse of boredom. I understand there's that 'I was actually there and it was good' thing but based on the video, it looks and sounds at best average. That seems to be the general view looking at the comments on here. Frankly though, at this point I have zero interest in seeing another YouTube clip of a song I've heard thousands of times. Things are very very boring at this point for all concerned. Ive said forever SCOM is terrible live, but listen to Easy from Download, they released it 18 months ago, find me a better preference of it after 2016 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DTJ80 1,092 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Just now, gnrjanus said: The troubadour is not availible to do Think the rights lay with the camera crew and people to them. Thought there was a release planned but didnt pen out cause due to money dispute between gnr and the filming/editing crew... Don’t think that was Troubadour - think it was one of the stadium gigs.....I think. Houston? That could be a separate dispute right enough! 😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dando 180 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, DTJ80 said: Don’t think that was Troubadour - think it was one of the stadium gigs.....I think. Houston? That could be a separate dispute right enough! 😂 Wasn't it Detroit? And it all went tits up cos GNR used a cheaper filming company to Troubadour Edited July 8, 2020 by dando Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DTJ80 1,092 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Just now, dando said: Wasn't it Detroit? Could well have been - something about choosing to use the stadium/promoter own facilities and it was something like 3 tv helicopters or something 😂. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dando 180 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, DTJ80 said: Could well have been - something about choosing to use the stadium/promoter own facilities and it was something like 3 tv helicopters or something 😂. I bet it was Beta/Fernando trying to go cheap on the filming Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Comstock 5,815 Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, DTJ80 said: Don’t think that was Troubadour - think it was one of the stadium gigs.....I think. Houston? That could be a separate dispute right enough! 😂 6 minutes ago, dando said: Wasn't it Detroit? And it all went tits up cos GNR used a cheaper filming company to Troubadour They filmed the Toronto and San Diego 2016 shows. As far as I know, they could release the Troubadour footage if they want to. They own that footage. The company that filmed it did so on the condition they'd also get to film one of the stadium shows. That didn't happen and the company that filmed the Troubadour show got fucked over, but I'm pretty sure GNR stills owns that footage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dando 180 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said: They filmed the Toronto and San Diego 2016 shows. As far as I know, they could release the Troubadour footage if they want to. They own that footage. The company that filmed it did so on the condition they'd also get to film one of the stadium shows. That didn't happen and the company that filmed the Troubadour show got fucked over, but I'm pretty sure GNR stills owns that footage. Ive had a Google and Detroit was definitely filmed as was Toronto too... Team Brazil claim all gigs are but there 2 were lined up for release... Rock in rio was crap for 90% of it, and that's out there, for god sake dont release that.. Rock in rio had always been shit audio Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Comstock 5,815 Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 minute ago, dando said: Ive had a Google and Detroit was definitely filmed as was Toronto too... Team Brazil claim all gigs are but there 2 were lined up for release... Rock in rio was crap for 90% of it, and that's out there, for god sake dont release that.. Rock in rio had always been shit audio I think the Detroit show was filmed by Live Nation and was used for promo videos, but GNR hired other companies to film Toronto and San Diego for release. I could be wrong about that, though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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