dallasgnrfan 11 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 The model has changed-- in '91-'93 you toured to boost album sales as album sales was the main profit driver for the band. Now it is the other way around, with tours being the bigger profit driver, hence the largely inflated ticket prices. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PatrickS77 1,339 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 22 minutes ago, dallasgnrfan said: The model has changed-- in '91-'93 you toured to boost album sales as album sales was the main profit driver for the band. Now it is the other way around, with tours being the bigger profit driver, hence the largely inflated ticket prices. We should have continued to buy albums. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GNR_RNR 337 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, dallasgnrfan said: The model has changed-- in '91-'93 you toured to boost album sales as album sales was the main profit driver for the band. Now it is the other way around, with tours being the bigger profit driver, hence the largely inflated ticket prices. Yep, tickets have just picked up the slack where albums used to be. 1 hour ago, PatrickS77 said: We should have continued to buy albums. Unironically yes. Music being worthless and ticket prices being sky high is truly the worst timeline. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jamillos 2,030 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 hours ago, PatrickS77 said: So they shouldn't say "we didn't make any money", they should say "we were too stupid to keep all the money we made". I believe that's what either Slash or Duff said in their book. That the managers were partying for their money, and they didn't know. Plus the fees. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NachoLZ 662 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Crazy to think this is the FIFTH year touring NITL. 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alejandro GNR 409 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 And they were able to post only 6 songs with an ultra mediocre performance🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sydney Fan 1,966 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 12 hours ago, dando said: Axl will carry on forever with Guns, Slash left before, nobody knows he's off again.. Its easy money playing with Guns so why would he go? Guns carried on before and would if it happened again I bet they wont be playing arenas or stadiums. What would axl do ask ashba to come back?. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sydney Fan 1,966 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, jamillos said: I believe that's what either Slash or Duff said in their book. That the managers were partying for their money, and they didn't know. Plus the fees. It think the majority of the money went on axls after show parties, band day off days out and i thought the odd fine if they played late if there was curfews?. The only thing slash matt and duff would buy on tour was probably liquor and drugs. I think they had low spending habits. 8 hours ago, PatrickS77 said: We should have continued to buy albums. I really need to learn how, when and who in the industry changed the whole model. Edited July 22, 2020 by Sydney Fan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sydney Fan 1,966 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 10 hours ago, StayofExecution2020 said: 91/92 That's why they added another cycle in 93 without the big band so they can make some money And so someone according to slash in his book, could afford their mult million dollar malibu home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Free Bird 2,088 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 14 hours ago, dando said: Slash & Myles wouldn't fill the arena's that Guns minus slash would. Because they didn't do it in 2014 already. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
80309561 22 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 15 hours ago, DTJ80 said: Surely you wouldn’t want this to happen???? Why what's the difference its just touring anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ZODIAC 300 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 6 hours ago, Sydney Fan said: I really need to learn how, when and who in the industry changed the whole model. Why? Because you own a Delorean and gonna fix up that shit in the past? 😉 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sydney Fan 1,966 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 43 minutes ago, ZODIAC said: Why? Because you own a Delorean and gonna fix up that shit in the 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jamillos 2,030 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 7 hours ago, Sydney Fan said: I really need to learn how, when and who in the industry changed the whole model. 1) Greed, 2) in the 90s, 3) the recording companies, producers, and all the other sharks who made an album cost a teenager a fortune, while the actual artist got like 10% of the price or whatever. I believe if the records cost like a half, a lot of people still would have been buying them back then. It's different now, with all the streaming etc., never to be the same. Basically the same debate as with burning and later downloading CDs and why. I remember Axl saying he reckoned two people would buy the UYI double album: each would buy one and copy the other one. Try suggesting something like this today... Greed. The answer to everything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dando 180 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 5 hours ago, Free Bird said: Because they didn't do it in 2014 already. Different sized arena's, the 3k place we saw slash wasn't the 20k arena we saw Guns Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dando 180 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 8 hours ago, Sydney Fan said: I bet they wont be playing arenas or stadiums. What would axl do ask ashba to come back?. Pass... Him, Finck, bumble etc all know the tracks, hopefully Slash stays... There's absolutely nothing but someone asking what if at this point Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Italian girl 2,770 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 50 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said: never!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Free Bird 2,088 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 25 minutes ago, dando said: Different sized arena's, the 3k place we saw slash wasn't the 20k arena we saw Guns Just because you didn't saw SMKC in a big arena it doesn't mean they didn't played them. Stop spreading lies 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dando 180 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 57 minutes ago, Free Bird said: Just because you didn't saw SMKC in a big arena it doesn't mean they didn't played them. Stop spreading lies I know the size of the place i saw Slash in... And it was probably 8 times smaller than the Arena... FACT... Myles & Slash have no pull at all for me, small band, unknown dreary songs from a terrible frontman... Gnr of 2006 / 10 / 12 always outsold slash in numbers through the door at a gig Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PatrickS77 1,339 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Free Bird said: Just because you didn't saw SMKC in a big arena it doesn't mean they didn't played them. Stop spreading lies Exactly. They both played the same arena in Basel, Switzerland, 3 years apart, and both were not sold out. Just now, dando said: I know the size of the place i saw Slash in... And it was probably 8 times smaller than the Arena... FACT... Myles & Slash have no pull at all for me, small band, unknown dreary songs from a terrible frontman... Gnr of 2006 / 10 / 12 always outsold slash in numbers through the door at a gig Yes. You don't give a shit about them. That much is clear by now. That permeats and influences all your mentionings and opinions about them. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dando 180 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, PatrickS77 said: Exactly. They both played the same arena in Basel, Switzerland, 3 years apart, and both were not sold out. Yes. You don't give a shit about them. That much is clear by now. That permeats and influences all your mentionings and opinions about them. One gig in Switzerland or a full UK tour, probably 5/6 nights or so with pretty much sold out arena's are 2 different things... Go to a myles forum then if their the big band.. The band aren't bad, the frontman is... Weak as piss Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Free Bird 2,088 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, dando said: I know the size of the place i saw Slash in... And it was probably 8 times smaller than the Arena... FACT... Myles & Slash have no pull at all for me, small band, unknown dreary songs from a terrible frontman... Gnr of 2006 / 10 / 12 always outsold slash in numbers through the door at a gig Never denied that. I saw them in a club with other 2499 people. That doesn't change the fact that they played big packt arenas in Europe as example on Poland. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dando 180 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Free Bird said: Never denied that. I saw them in a club with other 2499 people. That doesn't change the fact that they played big packt arenas in Europe as example on Poland. The point im trying to make is filling one arena per country in mainland Europe isn't hard.. Usually one show per country, the 2010/12 GNR lineup played a tour if 5/6 shows in the UK,Not one gig... Pretty much sold out arena's... Apart from one argumentative weird Austrian know it all... That cant be denied Filling one arena per country isn't hard, filling several on a tour in one country is more of a deal 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PatrickS77 1,339 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, dando said: The point im trying to make is filling one arena per country in mainland Europe isn't hard.. Usually one show per country, the 2010/12 GNR lineup played a tour if 5/6 shows in the UK,Not one gig... Pretty much sold out arena's... Apart from one argumentative weird Austrian know it all... That cant be denied Filling one arena per country isn't hard, filling several on a tour in one country is more of a deal Whatever, psychic loser. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Free Bird 2,088 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, dando said: The point im trying to make is filling one arena per country in mainland Europe isn't hard.. Usually one show per country, the 2010/12 GNR lineup played a tour if 5/6 shows in the UK,Not one gig... Pretty much sold out arena's... Apart from one argumentative weird Austrian know it all... That cant be denied Filling one arena per country isn't hard, filling several on a tour in one country is more of a deal That's not what you were saying. Besides, no... GNR 2010/12 didn't sell out anything. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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