El Guapo Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I'm afraid to watch this...maybe later tonight, with alcohol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimiRose Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, El Guapo said: I'm afraid to watch this...maybe later tonight, with alcohol Don't ruin your new year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR_RNR Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Quite enjoyed this selects, great song selection. Generally a pretty good 2019 performance and the actually managed to get an NA crowd up moving, quite the feat. Proportionately more footage of Axl(good!) yet they still seem to be trying to put as little video of him as possible in there. One thing I'll say is that by focussing the footage on the stationary members of the band it makes them seem rooted to the spot. Yet you can see from the wide shots that Axl covers the whole stage. Just a weird side effect of their video editing. A good selects to end the year on, top 3 for me I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 8 hours ago, StrangerInThisTown said: Sorry I meant '16-'20 only, I think people are viewing 2016 through rose colored glasses, there's not much difference in Axls vocals to me since this whole thing started, he didn't get worse, he didn't get better. I mean what 2016 show apart from Houston can you say is much better than any 17-20? 1 better night doesn't make the other 3 years suddenly way worse. If you go back and listen to Vegas it's plagued by the same things as always. In the case of Better I would argue that actually got better from 2017 onwards because Axl figured out how to sing the chorus in his low voice, which is really much better sounding than the cringworthy falsetto. I agree with you, like I said I see buggar all difference between Axl on form in 2014 or 2012, and Axl in 2016. If you're being honest with his performance he was still struggling in 2016 even if he was rasping, same goes for 2009/2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 38 minutes ago, Tom2112 said: same goes for 2009/2010. Axl didn't struggle in 2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimiRose Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 50 minutes ago, GNR_RNR said: Quite enjoyed this selects, great song selection. Generally a pretty good 2019 performance and the actually managed to get an NA crowd up moving, quite the feat. Proportionately more footage of Axl(good!) yet they still seem to be trying to put as little video of him as possible in there. One thing I'll say is that by focussing the footage on the stationary members of the band it makes them seem rooted to the spot. Yet you can see from the wide shots that Axl covers the whole stage. Just a weird side effect of their video editing. A good selects to end the year on, top 3 for me I'd say. I think you may need to get your hearing tested. Not that you can't hear, just that you are hearing things no one else can. Shadow of your love didn't sound too bad by recent standards. And I loathe to compare axl now to 86-93 era. But I think comparisons can be made to 2006 when KOHDs sounded like the greatest live vocal ever recorded. 2010 when LALD sounded like a monster or 2016 when most of these songs sounded ok. I wouldn't show these selects to anyone out of sheer embarrassment for axl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTV88 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, JimiRose said: I think you may need to get your hearing tested. Not that you can't hear, just that you are hearing things no one else can. Shadow of your love didn't sound too bad by recent standards. And I loathe to compare axl now to 86-93 era. But I think comparisons can be made to 2006 when KOHDs sounded like the greatest live vocal ever recorded. 2010 when LALD sounded like a monster or 2016 when most of these songs sounded ok. I wouldn't show these selects to anyone out of sheer embarrassment for axl. I was pleasantly surprised that Shadow sounded pretty good. The rest? Axl sounds like shit. I hope he’s embarrassed, he should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR77 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just horrible. I wonder if Axl approved these “selection of shit performances” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Killer Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I really dig the editing on this (and the previous). In my opinion, so many live videos are poorly edited. I like this stuff. Videos for the screen and the in person audience is different than what a video release should be - in my opinion. Very different requirements. Really digging Live and Let Die. Shadow of Your Love. Nice. I haven't really listened to this. This live version inspires me to go back Black Hole Sun. Killer Knockin' on Heavens Door. Inspirational Paradise City. Muy bien I'm guessing this is it if they already got to Paradise City. Here's to a new CD Q1 2021! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurhamGirl Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 4 hours ago, Lies They Tell said: Being realistic often comes off as sad. But honestly crying about Axl's voice day after day is a lot sadder in my opinion. 😄 You have a point! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlSlashthebest Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 3 hours ago, nikosgnr said: How awesome is 4tus for this band. I'm as u. love his part of guitare. fresh in this old band. happy about this captation only for Shadow of your love but so strange a live without the people crying !!!! I think this is the first time for me !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I'm clearly in the minority here thinking this wasn't awful! LALD was ghastly, obviously, and if you're arguing otherwise then that's concerning.....but other than that? I genuinely thought it was solid with SOYL sounding good. Still.....I won't bother watching it again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR_RNR Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, JimiRose said: And I loathe to compare axl now to 86-93 era. Dude it's 2020 10 minutes ago, allwaystired said: LALD was ghastly, obviously It's simply baffling the vocal choice he makes for the LALD verses. He kills the screams then goes to a really weak delivery, and has done since 2001!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangelus Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Whoever mixes these can’t have functioning ears. A decent mix would help a lot. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 17 minutes ago, GNR_RNR said: Dude it's 2020 It's simply baffling the vocal choice he makes for the LALD verses. He kills the screams then goes to a really weak delivery, and has done since 2001!! Yeah it just sounds weird. If you closed your eyes and didn't know better you'd think it was some of odd duet! Definitely one to drop from the setlist I'd say- I don't think many people would even miss it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rovim said: Axl didn't struggle in 2010. Watch reading festival welcome to the jungle, with a pro shot you can hear just how gassed he was singing those songs. He was definitely struggling which likely explains 2011. Edited December 31, 2020 by Tom2112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlSlashthebest Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Axl is dress like he is sick, don't it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTV88 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, AxlSlashthebest said: Axl is dress like he is sick, don't it ? It was freezing cold that night. I think the scarf was just to keep his throat warm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlSlashthebest Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 thx . Slash wear a t-shirt. But I guess Axl need to take care twice for his throat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Garden of Guns N Roses Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I think I saw Axl coughing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, allwaystired said: I'm clearly in the minority here thinking this wasn't awful! LALD was ghastly, obviously, and if you're arguing otherwise then that's concerning.....but other than that? I genuinely thought it was solid with SOYL sounding good. Still.....I won't bother watching it again. It wasn't awful, but I wouldn't have released it either. And it definitely doesn't need repeat viewing unless you're into cruel and unusual punishment! SOYL was ok, but his voice was a bit choked, Black hole sun sounded decent in comparison to Download festival or most other shows I heard. Live and let die was god awful as was Paradise city. I'm not advocating the censorship route of just showing the most carefully pruned songs, but a little more care would be great! there was no reason to release the show where Axl is sick, next up I suppose we'll get the behind the scenes of him puking and shitting his brains out in Dubai 2018 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimiRose Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Dangelus said: Whoever mixes these can’t have functioning ears. A decent mix would help a lot. A decent singer would help a lot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 If Axl is so insecure about himself that he doesn't want close-ups from himself, he shouldn't have botoxed his face. Franks Drumsound is just horrible and doesn't fit. The whole performance seems uninspiring and bland. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I really don't get why he sings Live And Let Die the way he does. He could easily sing it in his natural Brownstone register and it would sound totally fine. Instead we get this awkward hybrid of somewhat raspy screams and verses that sound like Herbert from Family Guy. Just terrible. Even the screams on this particular version were weak, short, and very forced. He'd be best to sing the whole song naturally, drop the screams if they can't be done anymore, and voila. The overall performance would sound so much better. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 The thing is, even the screams are not raspy there. His voice was gone at this point, this is just... gargling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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