agustingloger 144 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 He's out of breath on the first song hahaha it's Axl bitch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MaskingApathy 2,340 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ant said: I don't think the issue is Slash's tone so much as the mix. There's no bass? The drums have no life to them. the f. 1 minute ago, agustingloger said: When Axl sings, the resto of the band is so low especially the guitars... But it wasn't always like this ?! 😂😂😂 Double talking jive sounds great b the way Yeah needs more bass and drums and Slash needs to be higher in the mix the whole time, not just during the solos. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheSeeker 1,380 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 minute ago, vloors said: 2017 was hit and miss. They did have some great shows during that year too. Ehhhhh Apollo had a nice setlist but Axl's voice was already on the way out After AC/DC was done he stopped giving a shit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riot 97 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Soooo 3 songs.. while metallica gives us full show every week with personal message? Better than nothing i guess. I just want a new song in the end Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheSeeker 1,380 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Post Ritz 1991 in HD Fernando you coward jabroni 1 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
guitarpatch 551 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I doubt they’re mixing/editing much of this stuff. Nor should they for something like this. I hope they do more There will be mistakes. It’s live and it’s GNR. Just like there were flubs 30 yrs ago. There will also be moments where it should remind us why we enjoy this band. That DTJ solo was great 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TeeJay410 952 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Folks complaining about the mix, this is about as raw of a mix as it gets. I have no idea if they even did any EQ at all. This might be just straight what came out of the board into the stadium speakers. They just wanted to put something out, by no means is this intended to be on par with a live album or DVD. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vloors 1,416 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 minute ago, TeeJay410 said: Folks complaining about the mix, this is about as raw of a mix as it gets. I have no idea if they even did any EQ at all. This might be just straight what came out of the board into the stadium speakers. They just wanted to put something out, by no means is this intended to be on par with a live album or DVD. this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cqleonardo 602 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I like it but god, so many fuck ups!!!! Why this and not another show? They did what, close to 200 gigs since the Troubadour? And the audience isn't there, it sounds empty They could've done better for sure but I'll take it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WVsax27 11 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 it's a very honest recording of the band that doesn't sound super altered Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cqleonardo 602 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 And now I remember why I don't like to listen to Slash's takes on the CD songs... ew Quote Link to post Share on other sites
youngswedishvinyl 1,481 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Credit where credit is due, I really enjoyed this! Yes, I find it hilarious that they cut to the wide shot on most of the Axl closeups and the mix is a bit dry BUT getting some actual good quality footage of the tour makes up for that a hundred times over! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cqleonardo 602 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 and we barely got Axl on the footage lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WhazUp 4,066 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, TeeJay410 said: Folks complaining about the mix, this is about as raw of a mix as it gets. I have no idea if they even did any EQ at all. This might be just straight what came out of the board into the stadium speakers. They just wanted to put something out, by no means is this intended to be on par with a live album or DVD. I totally am glad they are doing something now, however I just definitely think that it should definitely be highlighted just to at least be aware of the limitations of a dry mix so we can all go into Rocket Queen and NR prepared for what a dry mix and high mixed 2019 Axl vocal on those songs will be like 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
guitarpatch 551 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, cqleonardo said: I like it but god, so many fuck ups!!!! Why this and not another show? They did what, close to 200 gigs since the Troubadour? And the audience isn't there, it sounds empty They could've done better for sure but I'll take it... It’s taken off the soundboard, you wouldn’t hear much of the audience regardless of their reaction Quote Link to post Share on other sites
metallex78 410 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, TeeJay410 said: Folks complaining about the mix, this is about as raw of a mix as it gets. I have no idea if they even did any EQ at all. This might be just straight what came out of the board into the stadium speakers. They just wanted to put something out, by no means is this intended to be on par with a live album or DVD. If that’s the case, why did it take so long to put out then? I hate to be one to complain when GN’R finally gives us something, but from the odd video editing (barely showing Axl), to odd audio mix (Slash/Axl loud, the rest of the band barely audible) I won’t be watching that again any time soon. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
guitarpatch 551 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Just now, WhazUp said: I totally am glad they are doing something now, however I just definitely think that it should definitely be highlighted just to at least be aware of the limitations of a dry mix so we can all go into Rocket Queen and NR prepared for what a dry mix and high mixed 2019 Axl vocal on those songs will be like We’ll see if they put those up. I highly doubt there’s a production budget on that level for these Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post GNRfanJen 1,054 Posted May 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2020 Beggars can't be choosers. For reference, the last time official footage of the band was uploaded to their YouTube channel was in June 2014; clips from Vegas residency. That is a LONG time. This was their first run doing this; it honestly could've been worse (granted, it could have been better, but that's a given). It's a step, albeit a small one, in the right direction. 7 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Ant 960 Posted May 22, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) Is it really a big task to throw them to a sound engineer for a day to get them sounding more like an actual concert? Like... just hearing the bass guitar, maybe? For a multi-hundred million dollar enterprise? 11 minutes ago, metallex78 said: If that’s the case, why did it take so long to put out then? I hate to be one to complain when GN’R finally gives us something, but from the odd video editing (barely showing Axl), to odd audio mix (Slash/Axl loud, the rest of the band barely audible) I won’t be watching that again any time soon. I feel the same way . Don't wanna be negative... But.... it sounds like shit! Separate from the actual performance. I watch GNR vids all the time... I'll never watch this one again! Mission accomplished? Props for trying, I suppose! Listen to that... its just a webcast, not a concert DVD... with a paltry 2 million views. Sounds infinitely better? And there's a ton of them from different shows. Edited May 22, 2020 by Ant 6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnr5 358 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Fernando said they tape all shows with a wideshot cam and one stage cam iirc. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
guitarpatch 551 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ant said: Is it really a big task to throw them to a sound engineer for a day to get them sounding more like an actual concert? For a multi-hundred million dollar enterprise? I feel the same way! But.... it sounds like shit! Separate from the actual performance. I watch GNR vids all the time... I'll never watch this one again! Mission accomplished? Props for trying, I suppose! Do you know how much it costs and the time it takes for a professional mix? You realize they won’t be making relatively anything off of it? Gonna guess the moment Fernando approaches Axl to pay someone to work on these, the project is dead in the water Edited May 22, 2020 by guitarpatch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ant 960 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, guitarpatch said: Do you know how much it costs and the time it takes for a professional mix? You realize they won’t be making relatively anything off of it? I don't have any idea! haha... but it's not like this is the reunion of Jet. GNR is a bigger touring enterprise than Metallica, yet Metallica has seemingly dozens of great sounding full shows online. Anyway, they can invest what they want in their band... s'all good. Edited May 22, 2020 by Ant 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
2020_Intensions 381 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, guitarpatch said: Do you know how much it costs and the time it takes for a professional mix? You realize they won’t be making relatively anything off of it? Gonna guess the moment Fernando approaches Axl to pay someone to work on these, the project is dead in the water You're really gonna make the profit argument after we got the numbers from NITL ???? C'mon now ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
History2010 470 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I think the lack of Axl shots is most likely intentional. So I'll be shocked if it improves in the upcoming streams but hopefully we get some better audio! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
guitarpatch 551 Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 1 minute ago, WhazUp said: GNR definitely could have sent Caram the multis to mix it, hell even a quick mix that sounds decent wouldn't have been too time consuming. If my roommate could fully mix a band's live concert during Quarantine for sync up to a video, I know that for a huge band like GNR, sending a dude a ProTools session for a quick "better than a dry board feed" mix would have been easy I am glad we got something as GNR fans to have a communal experience over, but I think that imperfections don't have to be ignored just because we got it in the first place If you want to go down the rabbit hole of Axl wanting to hear mixes and then giving notes, we’ll never hear anything again. That’s just my opinion. Nothing will be quick when that door is opened Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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