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1 hour ago, ©GnrPersia said:

Give me a break downzy. It's not even about the mix. 

It's just that this kiddo promises smth big and a month later comes out with a crap like this. Yeah maybe I shouldn't write for some time. Less censorship headache fo you isn't it?

I just don't like being around some ppl who still get excited to watch some half assed emotionless performances of 13 fucking minutes of cliche 30+ songs.

I'm outta here.

Lot’s of people here are posting criticisms or complaints. Few resort to the level of vitriol you demonstrated in your post.

We allow for all opinions. We don’t allow for bad behaviour. If this distinction is difficult, then it’s probably a good call to take sometime away (from this forum anyway) and come back when you figure it out. 

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Riot shields or bust.  

Cant beleive its taken the band 3 months to do this, and Fernando only agreeing to do something like this when told to him directly by the fans. If GNR want to look at being a top tier band this

LARGER! LARGER TEXT!!! I CAN'T READ!!!

2 hours ago, Ant said:

Is it really a big task to throw them to a sound engineer for a day to get them sounding more like an actual concert? Like... just hearing the bass guitar, maybe? For a multi-hundred million dollar enterprise?

I feel the same way :D. Don't wanna be negative... 

But.... it sounds like shit! Separate from the actual performance. I watch GNR vids all the time... I'll never watch this one again! Mission accomplished? Props for trying, I suppose!

 

 

Listen to that... its just a webcast, not a concert DVD... with a paltry 2 million views. Sounds infinitely better? And there's a ton of them from different shows.

well, Metallica sells their shows on their site... That's why it's "worked". I don't believe that GNR cares because they just put it in a shelf somewhere

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So I just watched the whole thing again, and I have a long record of criticizing it, but I don't hear anything glaringly awful about Axl’s performance. Sure these are the ”easier” songs but he hits the rasp when he is supposed to and stays on key. 

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10 minutes ago, downzy said:

For what it was I enjoyed it. I wasn’t expecting a fully mastered live performance. This was straight from the soundboard with nothing else done.  Reminds me of some of the soundboard bootlegs that have circulated over the years (Taiwan, Cleveland, etc). As a former musician it’s interesting to hear how professionals sound in a live setting without the wall of sound from that environment covering any flaws.

All in all and for what it was, it was a fun giveaway. 

Honestly just made me think of the old pro-shots from the UYI tour; audio is stereo, but the guitars aren't separated into either channel correctly, both kind of in the center. Not mixed, so instruments somewhat overshadow each other at certain portions. It's funny, if you're someone like me who loves bootlegged live shows, the crazy jumps in quality and variation amongst recordings. Saskatoon sounds better, in terms of the dynamic range and instrument levels, and it's from a 27 year old VHS tapes.

The Boston 2002 soundboard is pretty good, and yet ALL the Rock in Rio soundboard I've ever heard, no matter the artist, is just terrible. 

I enjoyed the songs though, can't wait for more

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32 minutes ago, cqleonardo said:

well, Metallica sells their shows on their site... That's why it's "worked". I don't believe that GNR cares because they just put it in a shelf somewhere

Geez thats a fuckload of people attending!!!.

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I think that it is a really promising sign that TB are doing this stuff, and I for one think that all in all it was a success. 

It got tons of fans onto this site and on Discord to all discuss the show as it was happening and gave us all a reason to be here at the same time for something.  Little things like that go a long way in terms of giving us reasons to keep going on GNR fan sites and discussing the band

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3 minutes ago, WhazUp said:

I think that it is a really promising sign that TB are doing this stuff, and I for one think that all in all it was a success. 

It got tons of fans onto this site and on Discord to all discuss the show as it was happening and gave us all a reason to be here at the same time for something.  Little things like that go a long way in terms of giving us reasons to keep going on GNR fan sites and discussing the band

kumbaya

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1 hour ago, axlvai said:

Well i didnt see it on time.... but i did just about some hours later.... and i read all the comments here. 

I dont want to sound a 'complainer complainer' but my general impresion of this is a 5/10. This is why: (in a very polite way)

- This sound bad in terms of mixing maybe??? Im not sound expert but its sounded like with no equalizer, a flat sound. This is not the real representation of the band going live. 

- The cam mix sucks ass (a not clean ass). That far cam its pointless if you dont zoom in next to when Axl or Slash gonna make the shit explode. The man who worked on this needs to see some UYI shows URGENT and REPLICATE the formula.

- Its time to finish some contracts with some hired members. FF first.

- I will not criticize the voice of the motherfucker bc he have bad and good days do in it. I saw the last show on Mexico (via streaming) and he kick some fkn ass there. 

- i didnt got a boner seeing this.... or my eyes on tears...... or my arms on goosebumps, they need more work. I will not see this video again. My 1st and last time. 

"INCLOSING!....." the video and audio mix fucked up the magic.

 

Adding some crap: When GnR released the 3D Bluray shit id got excited so much that i had to buy a new full HD TV with 3D and a good hometeather..... now if they will release a shit like this on 4k...... i dont will buy a new shit 4k tv OOH NOO. 

Just wanna say thanks for clarifying that it was "a not clean ass."

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29 minutes ago, UsedYourIllusion said:

Honestly just made me think of the old pro-shots from the UYI tour; audio is stereo, but the guitars aren't separated into either channel correctly, both kind of in the center. Not mixed, so instruments somewhat overshadow each other at certain portions. It's funny, if you're someone like me who loves bootlegged live shows, the crazy jumps in quality and variation amongst recordings. Saskatoon sounds better, in terms of the dynamic range and instrument levels, and it's from a 27 year old VHS tapes.

The Boston 2002 soundboard is pretty good, and yet ALL the Rock in Rio soundboard I've ever heard, no matter the artist, is just terrible. 

I enjoyed the songs though, can't wait for more

I’ve never been nor would I ever pretend to be an audiophile so sound mixing/quality isn’t the most important thing for me. I get for those who are how this is a disappointment. What matters to me is getting to hear, whether decently mixed or not, a clean rendition of what is being recorded live. 

This also reminds me of my old band days when we would pay the sound mixer to record our shows. It was a great learning tool because we could pick up where we made mistakes. They were never mixed well, but well enough to notice where things went wrong if the did. I know people are complaining of not being able to hear everyone, but i watched and listened to it from my iphone with sound coming from my external speaker and could pick up almost everything, including Duff and Melissa’s backing vocals in CD (I think Duff fucks up after the first chorus). Bass isn’t pronounced but it’s still detectable (plus it’s bass, who gives a shit). 

And your right, Boston 02 was a great bootleg (even better show as I was in the audience that night). 

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Just now, downzy said:

You can still watch the broadcast at GNR’s YouTube page. 

I will trying tomorrow, here now is almost 1.00Am time to :sleeper:. Thanks and good night to you 👍

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11 minutes ago, downzy said:

I’ve never been nor would I ever pretend to be an audiophile so sound mixing/quality isn’t the most important thing for me. I get for those who are how this is a disappointment. What matters to me is getting to hear, whether decently mixed or not, a clean rendition of what is being recorded live. 

This also reminds me of my old band days when we would pay the sound mixer to record our shows. It was a great learning tool because we could pick up where we made mistakes. They were never mixed well, but well enough to notice where things went wrong if the did. I know people are complaining of not being able to hear everyone, but i watched and listened to it from my iphone with sound coming from my external speaker and could pick up almost everything, including Duff and Melissa’s backing vocals in CD (I think Duff fucks up after the first chorus). Bass isn’t pronounced but it’s still detectable (plus it’s bass, who gives a shit). 

And your right, Boston 02 was a great bootleg (even better show as I was in the audience that night). 

Yeah, I know what you mean. I love the tracks on Live Era that don't have overdubs on the vocals, like You're Crazy, Don't Cry, Paradise City; despite the fact the album is brickwalled and loud. I still love listening to bootlegs, especially audience recordings, like the 1991 Stockholm shows, and the quality isn't soundboard. I just want good representations of how the performances are; so it's more about picking the right shows, than HiFi quality

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Antifragile by Nassim Taleb. Good book.

Guns is a fragile band. Axl for all his good traits, such as defense of the value of art, seems like a fragile human. 

360p upscale to 1080 with a bad mix and horrid transcode? Video editing where a year one student could do better? Treating Axl like the wizard of oz?

No interest in this band anymore. No balls.

CD was cool. Praise robin.

I’m done with GNR.

byyyeeeeee

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2 hours ago, Oldest Goat said:

It's a start. Be better and do more please. Auckland 2017 show would be great.

Yes

2 hours ago, gnr5 said:

Today I learned: this incarnation of GNR needs Matt Sorum

I've been saying that since the beginning of the reunion. Or Fitzy, he would totally blow everyone away.

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43 minutes ago, Wagszilla said:

Antifragile by Nassim Taleb. Good book.

Guns is a fragile band. Axl for all his good traits, such as defense of the value of art, seems like a fragile human. 

360p upscale to 1080 with a bad mix and horrid transcode? Video editing where a year one student could do better? Treating Axl like the wizard of oz?

No interest in this band anymore. No balls.

CD was cool. Praise robin.

I’m done with GNR.

byyyeeeeee

 No you are not

Is wrong to think Sorum was the worst Drummer for GNR and is a incomprehensible douchebag?

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2 hours ago, Hank Moody said:

ank is the luckiest guy in rock n roll, got to be the drummer on one of the most anticipated reunions of all time, sucks a lot and is still employed (they should get either Matt or Fitzy to play for them, because for four years straight he has sucked and it kind of takes something away from this whole thing);

Franks been in this band since 2006 he knows the songs by heart. 

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1) I am grateful for the video, and please keep it coming in any case. 
2) However, I am not impressed, at all. Sorry. I can understand it’s probably just the beginning, and you chose "safe" songs in terms of Axl’s voice. But the sound sucks, the camera/editing people would deserve a slap, and the video quality is ridiculous. Why am I not too surprised? 
TV pro-shots from years ago have a better audio quality than this! As for the camera/editing, we barely see Axl, and there’s still that pestilence that the cameraman shows a guitarist’s right hand instead of the left one, which is entirely useless and idiotic. I thought these morons disappeared with the 90s TV, but apparently not. 
I hope to god if they ever release a NITL dvd, it won’t be of this "professional" quality...

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