El Guapo Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Spoiled little brat, Fucknandont strikes again. Slash and Duff should be ashamed of themselves for being part of this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Wait, Fernando is seriously saying that the protests mean it is disrespectful for GNR to put 3 more live tunes on Youtube? I am not sure of the logic behind that. Everyone is aware of the protests, yet beyond Blackout Tuesday there has been no call for the music industry to halt by anyone - literally so many bands are releasing things the past couple of weeks and all that fun stuff. To me I just don't get why this band can simply act... normal. Everything has to be some sort of setback and a delayed response Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Who needs sitcoms when there is @Fernando. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 22 minutes ago, WhazUp said: Wait, Fernando is seriously saying that the protests mean it is disrespectful for GNR to put 3 more live tunes on Youtube? I am not sure of the logic behind that. Everyone is aware of the protests, yet beyond Blackout Tuesday there has been no call for the music industry to halt by anyone - literally so many bands are releasing things the past couple of weeks and all that fun stuff. To me I just don't get why this band can simply act... normal. Everything has to be some sort of setback and a delayed response Gnr is the kid😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) I didn't realize the band played 'One In A Million' during NITL... Edited June 14, 2020 by F*ck Fear 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) He's such a gentleman, isn't he? Using such a tragedy as an excuse for his laziness tells how much respect he shows for current events. If Axl wants to kick someone's ass, Fernando's is the right target. Edited June 14, 2020 by Free Bird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurhamGirl Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Unless it is Axl pulling the strings and he has no say...who knows, but all this procrastination is exhausting. Does he have an awareness of the effect of his actions I wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 16 hours ago, zigzagbigbag said: No offense, but you seriously do believe Slash and Duff (especially Duff) let some nobody like Fernando let decide about GUNS N ROSES’s legacy?!?! I think they DO care very much about Youtube, live releases etc. They both are on not only on social media but do release (live) records on a regular basis. I think that its all about contractual bullshit and Axl has full control about any potential release. And since Mr. W. Axl Rose is the only person in this b(r)and who wasn’t able to deliver a professional performance, within a four year reunion nothing official has been released to date ... oh, yeah , besides of a 13 minutes clip with the lead singer (!) cut out. Fernando acts like he's the man, so that's why he gets treated like he's responsible for that. We can blame Axl, Slash and Duff when they announce something and don't deliver. In this case it was Fernando. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k12 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 2 hours ago, DurhamGirl said: Unless it is Axl pulling the strings and he has no say...who knows, but all this procrastination is exhausting. Does he have an awareness of the effect of his actions I wonder. I'll bet every decision with GNR goes through the man who wrote November Rain 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KeyserSoze Posted June 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2020 I've been holding off on saying anything about this because I am just so disappointed at this point. At this rate, I see it like this: It's extremely telling to me that the band hasn't said ANYTHING on social media in almost 2 weeks. When is the last time thats happened? So many people want to come on here and tell me "oh GNR just doesn't update their social media and its nothing to look into, this is just the norm.." Bullshit. GNR have 3 primary social media accounts: Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. One of those accounts is bound to get updated at least once a week, even if it is a bullshit picture of the band or, recently, something to sell us. So, now you're telling me GNR land has gone silent for 13 days straight in the wake of a black mans murder that has literally turned the world upside down, but yet want to be vocal about things like "covid-45" and the current administration when this indirectly ties into the current administration and pretty much all of life right now? Right. They are afraid of getting cancelled. There can't be another excuse. It happened recently to J.K. Rowling, and many other 'celebrities' or figureheads around the world. They see the smoke, and truly they don't want it coming into GNR land. That one word on that one song from 32 years ago has the power to put a pause on all the progress the band has made since 2016 and certainly anything they are about to do in regards to 'new music' or rereleases. Anyone denying that just isn't in-tune with what is going on in the world right now and how the younger generation thinks and acts. The Band thinks that if they are silent, no harm can come from it. Fernando's 'excuse' is absolutely laughable in every way. I'm surprised he even said anything to be honest because it seems just as easy to be silent in this case. The band themselves didn't even post a statement of solidarity regarding anything thats happened with George Floyd. They were peer pressured and forced by their peers and the music industry at large to post an ominous black square with a simple hashtag and thats fucking it. If no one else did it, I doubt they would have themselves. So why now all of sudden its "we are doing this in respect for wold events." Are you fucking kidding me? The amount of laziness from Axl right down to Fernando is amazing. If theres going to be no music, nothing worth any amount of substance at all anymore: WHAT IS THE FUCKING POINT? You can't maintain a multi-million dollar business in this day and age and have absolutely ZERO communication with the people who have PAID to put you there. I think im going to have to take a break from here and this band until literally anything picks up again. Its too much bullshit and makes me sad when I think about. Theres a reason why I've gotten into other bands since NITL started. Theres more value in other artists who actually care for their fans, and some have younger managers than Fernando, and some even do the management and promotion themselves. It seems like the only 'value' GNR have given their fanbase recently is drama, drama, and more drama. They should try to put Vince from WWE out of business because Axl and the boys have a way better storyline going on. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 21 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: So, now you're telling me GNR land has gone silent for 13 days straight in the wake of a black mans murder that has literally turned the world upside down, but yet want to be vocal about things like "covid-45" and the current administration when this indirectly ties into the current administration and pretty much all of life right now? Right. They are afraid of getting cancelled. There can't be another excuse. It happened recently to J.K. Rowling, and many other 'celebrities' or figureheads around the world. They see the smoke, and truly they don't want it coming into GNR land. That one word on that one song from 32 years ago has the power to put a pause on all the progress the band has made since 2016 and certainly anything they are about to do in regards to 'new music' or rereleases. Anyone denying that just isn't in-tune with what is going on in the world right now and how the younger generation thinks and acts. The Band thinks that if they are silent, no harm can come from it. Fernando's 'excuse' is absolutely laughable in every way. I'm surprised he even said anything to be honest because it seems just as easy to be silent in this case. The band themselves didn't even post a statement of solidarity regarding anything thats happened with George Floyd. They were peer pressured and forced by their peers and the music industry at large to post an ominous black square with a simple hashtag and thats fucking it. If no one else did it, I doubt they would have themselves. This theory doesn't explain why other bands like Metallica (since they're everyone's favourite example and comparison here) who have skeletons in their closet, as it's been recently confirmed, continue being active on social media and releasing stuff, and aren't afraid of being "cancelled". Metallica haven't even posted the supposed "forced" black square, I think, and neither have other bands. I still think that you're reading too much into it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Blackstar said: This theory doesn't explain why other bands like Metallica (since they're everyone's favourite example and comparison here) who have skeletons in their closet, as it's been recently confirmed, continue being active on social media and releasing stuff, and aren't afraid of being "cancelled". Metallica haven't even posted the supposed "forced" black square, I think, and neither have other bands. I still think that you're reading too much into it. Its not a Theory, its a choice. And its the one GNR are making. Metallicas management has chosen to ‘press on’ and continue giving out content. Why? Because content is distracting. GNR and the management don’t understand or care about that. GNR have chosen to go completely silent. metallica also don’t have a song with a racial slur in it. keep telling me im reading too much into it, thats fine. But I have yet to feel any differently. You also took everything I said and disregarded the rest of it completely only to focus on your point about the social media you’ve been trying to hold over me since I even brought it up. Edited June 14, 2020 by KeyserSoze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayno Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 "all the progress the band has made since 2016" What?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 18 minutes ago, Rayno said: "all the progress the band has made since 2016" What?! Oh come on. You’re going to act like having Duff and Slash back in the band isn’t progress? Not sure what you don’t understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted June 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said: Oh come on. You’re going to act like having Duff and Slash back in the band isn’t progress? Not sure what you don’t understand. Slash & Duff are merely doing what Tommy and DJ/Robin/Ron did: playing the same setlist every night with little to no effort and cashing a paycheck. Doesn't seem like progress to me. 11 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Blackstar said: This theory doesn't explain why other bands like Metallica (since they're everyone's favourite example and comparison here) who have skeletons in their closet, as it's been recently confirmed, continue being active on social media and releasing stuff, and aren't afraid of being "cancelled". Metallica haven't even posted the supposed "forced" black square, I think, and neither have other bands. I still think that you're reading too much into it. Skeletons in their closet? If there's one band that is totally out there with the good and bad it's Metallica. Not sure what your point is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Tom2112 said: Skeletons in their closet? If there's one band that is totally out there with the good and bad it's Metallica. Not sure what your point is. I mean this: Edited June 14, 2020 by Blackstar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 31 minutes ago, RussTCB said: Slash & Duff are merely doing what Tommy and DJ/Robin/Ron did: playing the same setlist every night with little to no effort and cashing a paycheck. Doesn't seem like progress to me. Imo there's a difference in having those songs played by Slash and Duff or those other guys. And lets be honest. They played mostly 3 to 3 and a half hour shows. Their setlist had a construct while they switched some songs here and there. Considering their small discography to choose songs from and the lenghth of their shows there weren't many songs left that weren't played during these 4 years. I'm with you though, they could have played some more deepcuts instead of this amount of covers. But they surprised us here and there, which often remains unmentioned when the band gets criticized for their setlist The lack of new music and the comunication is the real problem with GNR. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 42 minutes ago, Blackstar said: I mean this: Ah... I see! Well I don't think it's entirely accurate to where he is today. i will listen to the interview and make my mind up, but I think he's very inclusive and not racist... but I am willing to have my mind changed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 12 hours ago, DurhamGirl said: I actually find it disrespectful that Fernando uses the heartbreaking events on a worldwide basis as an excuse to not put out a couple of vids.... I am only surprised that he hasn’t found a way to make a GnR t shirt out of it yet 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) I'm all about trashing idiot Fernando for his lack of everything, but don't really get what @KeyserSoze keeps rambling about getting cancelled. Cancelled from what? As if anyone would cancel an act like gnr over something. Take off your tin foiled hat and stop with that ridiculous bullshit. The social media silence is just laziness on fucknandos part. It's the same as always. Gnr have been silent like this before. Fernando doesn't know what to post because he is useless. End of story Edited June 14, 2020 by StayofExecution2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, StayofExecution2020 said: The social media silence is just laziness on fucknandos part. It's the same as always. Gnr have been silent like this before. Fernando doesn't know what to post because he is useless. End of story I mean that could be the case, either way its laughable and leave me and my tin foil hat alone, its warm under here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Just now, KeyserSoze said: I mean that could be the case, either way its laughable and leave me and my tin foil hat alone, its warm under here Gnr is one of the biggest names out there. Nobody will "cancel" them over some bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, StayofExecution2020 said: The social media silence is just laziness on fucknandos part. It's the same as always. Gnr have been silent like this before. Fernando doesn't know what to post because he is useless. End of story So... is it because he's lazy or useless? Or both? Edited June 14, 2020 by EvanG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 1 minute ago, EvanG said: So... is it because he's lazy or useless? Or both? Well being lazy makes you useless in the end. Especially when you're the "manager" of a multi million dollar band Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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