SoulMonster Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 6 hours ago, Tom2112 said: Wasn't Doc Mcghee mentioned as being backstage in one of the rare Axl interviews? I don't know if Axl made that up... but I'd guess Doc got scared when Paul called and said "It's us or them". I don't know - he certainly wasn't mentioned in any Axl interview before May 2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 He was with the band in Puerto Rico in April 2010, as this tweet from Tommy Stinson suggests: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 5 hours ago, SoulMonster said: I don't know - he certainly wasn't mentioned in any Axl interview before May 2010. He was definitely mentioned in a more official capacity than Axls tweet, but I can't remember exactly where that was. 4 hours ago, Blackstar said: He was with the band in Puerto Rico in April 2010, as this tweet from Tommy Stinson suggests: Hadn't seen this, but it definitely goes against what a certain Paul Stanley tweeted. He clearly was working for GNR, but didn't work out because Stanley threw down the old tomatoe and he buckled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 14 minutes ago, Tom2112 said: He was definitely mentioned in a more official capacity than Axls tweet, but I can't remember exactly where that was. Alright, let me know if you find the source. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted August 7, 2021 Author Share Posted August 7, 2021 (edited) I might as well post this here so I don't spam the section with numerous threads. I have posted an earlier version of this somewhere, but now it has been updated. Edited August 7, 2021 by SoulMonster 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drlaban Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Where's Prostitute in that infographic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted August 7, 2021 Author Share Posted August 7, 2021 Just now, drlaban said: Where's Prostitute in that infographic? It's been played 19 times which isn't enough to get on the chart. I will make the chart bigger to Prostitute, and other less played songs, get in there too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted August 7, 2021 Author Share Posted August 7, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, drlaban said: Where's Prostitute in that infographic? Here's an updated graphics: Consider it a work-in-progress. I intend to make the design nicer and add more data. Because I love data. Edited August 7, 2021 by SoulMonster 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drlaban Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Perhaps add that Liquor and whores is a cover. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 All things considered, this is a rad graphic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted August 8, 2021 Author Share Posted August 8, 2021 Updated the infographics. Done for now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) Just added a new chapter to the history section, covering April-December 2010: 30. APRIL-DECEMBER 2010 (a-4-d.com) Although it is a fairly short chapter, it is representative of how history repeats itself: The band toured again, the band did not release music again, Slash left a band again, Axl was late again, band members considered quitting again, Axl sued again, and Steven released something focused on Guns N' Roses again. On a more positive note, the touring was for most part great and Duff and Axl reunited in London with Duff even joining the band on stage. We also got to know DJ a lot better. Edited November 20, 2021 by SoulMonster 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 On 11/20/2021 at 7:31 AM, SoulMonster said: We also got to know DJ a lot better. that's not a good thing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 hour ago, janrichmond said: that's not a good thing I know. Trying to be scholarly distant and objective so added that information as a tacked on sentence at the end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: I know. Trying to be scholarly distant and objective so added that information as a tacked on sentence at the end. You have redeemed yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, janrichmond said: You have redeemed yourself. On the topic of DJ, any chance you know at which show's after-party DJ claims he and Axl beat a fan to a pulp? According to DJ, this was hilarious. I must include it in the history section, he is not getting away from it, but ideally in the right chapter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 21 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: On the topic of DJ, any chance you know at which show's after-party DJ claims he and Axl beat a fan to a pulp? According to DJ, this was hilarious. I must include it in the history section, he is not getting away from it, but ideally in the right chapter. Lol, no. What a wanker he is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubanSkies Dummy Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) All things considered, you should add the Sp1at interview in 2005. Jeff (I forgot his last name) speaks about some leftovers ("Oh My God", "Atlas", etc) _________________________________________________________________________ The tracklist of "Chinese Democracy" was nearly done in fall 2007. Also, you should add this: 2008 TOTAL LOSS wrote: The track list was shifted and revised just prior to release. Truth be told, the album as intended was: 1. Chinese Democracy 2. Riad 3. Shackler's Revenge 4. Stardust 5. If The World 6. Better 7. This I Love 8. There Was A Time 9. The Lies They Tell 10. Sorry 11. I.R.S. 12. Madagascar 13. Prostitute *Catcher In The Rye was not going to be included. _________________________________________________________________ And this is the tracklist intended in august 2008: Edited December 28, 2021 by CubanSkies Dummy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, CubanSkies Dummy said: All things considered, you should add the Sp1at interview in 2005. Jeff (I forgot his last name) speaks about some leftovers ("Oh My God", "Atlas", etc) Uh, didn't you quote the reference to that from a4d the other day? We already have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubanSkies Dummy Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) Yes, you're right! Sorry. (It was hard to find the last pic, uh) Ps: Scraped is from the year 2000. WINTER 2008 HAPPY HOLIDAYS! Guns n'Roses new album, Chinese Democracy, has finally seen the light of day. And with it are two songs that Rob and good friend Pete Scaturro helped create, way back in 2000. Yes, in the year 2000. Pete and Rob produced the tracks "Sorry" and "Shackler's Revenge" with literal guitar hero Buckethead and former Gn'R and Primus drummer Brian "Brain" Mantia, with Axl ultimately adding his voice. We were surprised as anybody...and look forward to our free can of Dr. Pepper. -http://www.meetbeaton.com/news/- Edited December 28, 2021 by CubanSkies Dummy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SoulMonster Posted December 28, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 hour ago, CubanSkies Dummy said: All things considered, you should add the Sp1at interview in 2005. Jeff (I forgot his last name) speaks about some leftovers ("Oh My God", "Atlas", etc) _________________________________________________________________________ The tracklist of "Chinese Democracy" was nearly done in fall 2007. Also, you should add this: 2008 TOTAL LOSS wrote: The track list was shifted and revised just prior to release. Truth be told, the album as intended was: 1. Chinese Democracy 2. Riad 3. Shackler's Revenge 4. Stardust 5. If The World 6. Better 7. This I Love 8. There Was A Time 9. The Lies They Tell 10. Sorry 11. I.R.S. 12. Madagascar 13. Prostitute *Catcher In The Rye was not going to be included. _________________________________________________________________ And this is the tracklist intended in august 2008: The whole purpose of the history section over at A4D is to write the history of the band based on what the band members (and people close to them) have actually said throughout the years, and structure all this information chronologically and by topics, and not include rumours, hearsay and unverified statements from random guys on the Internet. Hopefully that means it will be an interesting and trustworthy source of information on GN'R. So no, I will not include information presented by "insiders" on fan forums. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WhazUp Posted December 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2021 5 hours ago, SoulMonster said: The whole purpose of the history section over at A4D is to write the history of the band based on what the band members (and people close to them) have actually said throughout the years, and structure all this information chronologically and by topics, and not include rumours, hearsay and unverified statements from random guys on the Internet. Hopefully that means it will be an interesting and trustworthy source of information on GN'R. So no, I will not include information presented by "insiders" on fan forums. That is both the most eloquent and respectful rejection of total nonsense by "GNR fake insider list making obsessives" I have ever read - well done 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted December 29, 2021 Author Share Posted December 29, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, CubanSkies Dummy said: Yes, you're right! Sorry. (It was hard to find the last pic, uh) Ps: Scraped is from the year 2000. WINTER 2008 HAPPY HOLIDAYS! Guns n'Roses new album, Chinese Democracy, has finally seen the light of day. And with it are two songs that Rob and good friend Pete Scaturro helped create, way back in 2000. Yes, in the year 2000. Pete and Rob produced the tracks "Sorry" and "Shackler's Revenge" with literal guitar hero Buckethead and former Gn'R and Primus drummer Brian "Brain" Mantia, with Axl ultimately adding his voice. We were surprised as anybody...and look forward to our free can of Dr. Pepper. -http://www.meetbeaton.com/news/- This, on the other hand, is more interesting, but I will let you know why I won't include it based on your post alone: The information is plausible and it supposedly comes from the blog of a known engineer, but unfortunately the link does not work anymore and the wayback machine hasn't archived that exact page, so I cannot verify that this isn't fake. Unfortunately, with so many weirdos in the fanbase likely to create fake pieces of information for their own amusement or agenda, I can't trust this information. Personally, I don't think it is fake, it looks completely genuine and plausible, but for the history section to be trustworthy, I can't make subjective choices on what is fake and not fake and include some sources that are unverified based on what I personally feel - or at least I try to do this as little as possible. That would put a personal bias, a personal slant, on what is included, which is exactly what I am trying to avoid with the whole history section. It is supposed to be objective. Some people may not like me, or agree with my opinions, but at least they should trust the work I do. So I have to adhere to certain rigid and stringent objective criteria of inclusion. This means I will likely miss out on stuff that is real, and some of that stuff is juicy, but the upside is to remain credible. Don't get me wrong, I have to make some, editorial choices, like what chapters to include, how much attention I give to various chapters, to some extent what quotes to include, etc. But also there I try to be objective and treat everyone the same with the only allegiance being to the truth. What I do in cases like this, is of course to reach out to the source (Rob Beaton) to have the information verified, and I will do that now. Edited December 29, 2021 by SoulMonster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denin Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 12:45 PM, Tom2112 said: He was definitely mentioned in a more official capacity than Axls tweet, but I can't remember exactly where that was. This agitated Paul Stanley, I think.https://planetradio.co.uk/planet-rock/news/rock-news/axl-hires-kiss-manager/ The one backstage mention I recall was in Abu Dhabi in Dec 2010, which was Doc's last show with Guns, IIRC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted December 29, 2021 Author Share Posted December 29, 2021 33 minutes ago, denin said: This agitated Paul Stanley, I think.https://planetradio.co.uk/planet-rock/news/rock-news/axl-hires-kiss-manager/ Yep: (48) 2010.03.26 - Classic Rock/Blabbermouth - Paul Stanley: Doc McGhee Is Not Managing GN'R (a-4-d.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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