Dean Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 25 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said: Better hasn't been a good live song for about 8-9 years now. I'd argue since 2007. I was not a fan of it at all with Ashba. His tone was horrible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dean said: I'd argue since 2007. I was not a fan of it at all with Ashba. His tone was horrible. Bumble's tone was better in the Ashba years though, and Axl still sounded good on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circusboy666 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Think about you....thought it’s sucked since 1987 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickS77 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 10 hours ago, Tom2112 said: You see the irony right? "Nobody rates that shit" 🤣 Also, plenty of people on and off the forums love CD, some even consider it their favourite guns album, some rate certain songs from the album in their top 5 of all time. Your opinion on people being hopeless because they like a record you don't, is in itself hopeless. Yeah. I knew some wiseass would take issue with it. The majority of the public don't give a shit about CD, as do most GNR fans, especially ones who were around when GNR still was GNR. So it can't be overrated. That doesn't mean that I can't like a song or two of Axl's solo album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Free Bird said: I listened to Back Off Bitch earlier today and I still think it's an awesome track. One of the best rockers from the Illusions. I am with you. Always loved that song.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom-Ass Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 hours ago, circusboy666 said: Think about you....thought it’s sucked since 1987 It is generally classified as one of the bottom ranked songs on Appetite so I am not sure how it is over rated.. My take would be under rated. I have always loved that song and might even like it more now than I did back in the day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Think About You is one of the weaker songs on AFD, but it's still a good song. I wouldn't say it's overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireSoul Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Catcher, most boring song off any album. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 hours ago, PatrickS77 said: Yeah. I knew some wiseass would take issue with it. The majority of the public don't give a shit about CD, as do most GNR fans, especially ones who were around when GNR still was GNR. So it can't be overrated. That doesn't mean that I can't like a song or two of Axl's solo album. Well you spoke so definitive, it didn't leave much room for a song or two to be good. And wiseass, It's as much Guns N Roses as whatever the next album is, so get over it... I'm not talking about the majority of the public or GNR fans, I'm talking exclusively about the people who did enjoy it and whether you like it or not there are a lot of people who love the record. I love it, and I wasn't around in 87... but I think i'm qualified enough to figure out what is and isn't good. Also, I don't have some rose tinted nostalgic idea of what GNR should be... which I get! but I much prefer being able to enjoy the past and the future without the constant "But I liked it when..." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trin9498 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Overrated? Cather in the Rye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Tom2112 said: Well you spoke so definitive, it didn't leave much room for a song or two to be good. And wiseass, It's as much Guns N Roses as whatever the next album is, so get over it... I'm not talking about the majority of the public or GNR fans, I'm talking exclusively about the people who did enjoy it and whether you like it or not there are a lot of people who love the record. I love it, and I wasn't around in 87... but I think i'm qualified enough to figure out what is and isn't good. Also, I don't have some rose tinted nostalgic idea of what GNR should be... which I get! but I much prefer being able to enjoy the past and the future without the constant "But I liked it when..." 1/5 is not the same as 3/5. Edited July 14, 2020 by Free Bird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 5 hours ago, Free Bird said: 1/5 is not the same as 3/5. Killer math work there Freebird! Let's wait until we hear the album and then let's see where opinions sit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axlr0s37 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Paradise City, I don't know if it's just because it's over played or what. But I'm just not that keen on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) On 10/07/2020 at 8:37 PM, EvH said: Coma. Too long, overblown, doesn't really go anywhere I would say this one too. I'm not a regular GnR listener by any stretch but I was when I was a kid, very much so...and this song I've almost exclusively skipped in my time, exactly as you say, doesn't go anywhere. I could've put Sympathy for the Devil too but then for something to be overrated it has to first be rated, which Sympathy ain't by anyone who isn't profoundly mentally ill. Not counting Chi Dem for the same reason. Edited July 14, 2020 by Len Cnut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Tom2112 said: Killer math work there Freebird! Let's wait until we hear the album and then let's see where opinions sit. You don't have to be a professor of mathematics to know that. The bigger question is if there will be a new GNR album ever again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 56 minutes ago, Free Bird said: You don't have to be a professor of mathematics to know that. The bigger question is if there will be a new GNR album ever again. Ah I was pulling your leg😁 And I 100% agree! it is a big IF!! loads of demos though, so they'll eventually leak 20+ years from now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Tom2112 said: Killer math work there Freebird! Let's wait until we hear the album and then let's see where opinions sit. I think that with some bands, 1 band member quits, even 2, it's still essentially the same band cause only some of the band members in that band were responsible for the sound, the feel, the direction, and the vibe of the music. Gn'R is not that type of band imo. As soon as 1 band member left, it was still Gn'R, but not as much Gn'R as it was with Steven and not as much Gn'R as it was with Izzy. with Slash and Duff back in the band it's logical it will be more Gn'R compared to Chinese Democracy cause what made Gn'R what it was in the first place was the combination of the 5 different individuals that recorded AFD and Lies. Each member was extremely important and the musical interaction between them made it the unified construct it was. just like how the Chinese material doesn't sound the same without Robin and Bucket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR_RNR Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 19 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said: Better hasn't been a good live song for about 8-9 years now. I liked the 2016 performances. But don't really like the new voice Axl uses on the chorus now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holographic Universe Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Back off bitch 1 hour ago, Rovim said: I think that with some bands, 1 band member quits, even 2, it's still essentially the same band cause only some of the band members in that band were responsible for the sound, the feel, the direction, and the vibe of the music. Gn'R is not that type of band imo. As soon as 1 band member left, it was still Gn'R, but not as much Gn'R as it was with Steven and not as much Gn'R as it was with Izzy. with Slash and Duff back in the band it's logical it will be more Gn'R compared to Chinese Democracy cause what made Gn'R what it was in the first place was the combination of the 5 different individuals that recorded AFD and Lies. Each member was extremely important and the musical interaction between them made it the unified construct it was. just like how the Chinese material doesn't sound the same without Robin and Bucket. The band was fine without Steven. Matt was a great member. But GNR is one of those rare bands that being a original member does matter because the original members had an attitude that is not replaceable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, The Holographic Universe said: Back off bitch The band was fine without Steven. Matt was a great member. But GNR is one of those rare bands that being a original member does matter because the original members had an attitude that is not replaceable. Tracii Guns and the other original members certainly had attitude! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holographic Universe Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sweersa said: Tracii Guns and the other original members certainly had attitude! Not GNR attitude. Those guys were next level which is why they connected on the hell tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Rovim said: I think that with some bands, 1 band member quits, even 2, it's still essentially the same band cause only some of the band members in that band were responsible for the sound, the feel, the direction, and the vibe of the music. Gn'R is not that type of band imo. As soon as 1 band member left, it was still Gn'R, but not as much Gn'R as it was with Steven and not as much Gn'R as it was with Izzy. with Slash and Duff back in the band it's logical it will be more Gn'R compared to Chinese Democracy cause what made Gn'R what it was in the first place was the combination of the 5 different individuals that recorded AFD and Lies. Each member was extremely important and the musical interaction between them made it the unified construct it was. just like how the Chinese material doesn't sound the same without Robin and Bucket. I totally agree with that, I was more saying that if the rumours are true and we're getting CD II with slash and Duff inserted into the mix then it's not really all that different. Obviously I accept that having Slash and Duff on a record with Axl is automatically closer to that original GNR sound though! But for me, I 100% accept CD as a GNR record too, even though the traditional sound was largely replaced as well as the majority of the key members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Tom2112 said: I totally agree with that, I was more saying that if the rumours are true and we're getting CD II with slash and Duff inserted into the mix then it's not really all that different. Obviously I accept that having Slash and Duff on a record with Axl is automatically closer to that original GNR sound though! But for me, I 100% accept CD as a GNR record too, even though the traditional sound was largely replaced as well as the majority of the key members. will be interesting to hear another Gn'R record if it ever comes out. If Axl does release new music, I don't think anything is set in stone yet, just a guess. It could be anywhere from mainly old unreleased Chinese tunes/old Gn'R tunes that are reworked by Slash and Duff to more of a hybrid between Axl's ideas and Slash compositions. personally, I don't believe Slash will just play the role Bumble played or will just mostly play on top of existing Axl tunes. Bucket got to write 3 tunes that made it and even Pitman got 1 in there so I think Slash especially (but Duff as well) will get to contribute a lot. Axl said it back in 1999: no one writes a riff quite like Slash does so maybe Axl missed having that element at his disposal but who knows, really. Edited July 14, 2020 by Rovim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Rovim said: will be interesting to hear another Gn'R record if it ever comes out. If Axl does release new music, I don't think anything is set in stone yet, just a guess. It could be anywhere from mainly old unreleased Chinese tunes/old Gn'R tunes that are reworked by Slash and Duff to more of a hybrid between Axl's ideas and Slash compositions. personally, I don't believe Slash will just play the role Bumble played or will just mostly play on top of existing Axl tunes. Bucket got to write 3 tunes that made it and even Pitman got 1 in there so I think Slash especially (but Duff as well) will get to contribute a lot. Axl said it back in 1999: no one writes a riff quite like Slash does so maybe Axl missed having that element at his disposal but who knows, really. As much as I want to hear the CD II that was ready, I hope you are right! I don't want to hear Slash pushed into that role... and like you I don't think Slash would do it, unless it was the only way to get the band back on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAU3R Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Tom2112 said: loads of demos though, so they'll eventually leak 20+ years from now! I can see this place exploding in 2040 when the first GNR music with Slash and Duff since 1994 leaks 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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