New Smkc album slated for 2021, delay for GNR album ?

[eddiedingle 24]

Wasted any momentum and goodwill they had. I don't believe it will ever happen. And if touring ever resumes post covid I won't be wasting a cent supporting them for the same old show with a fat out of breath Axl.

[pugachev 201]

Hate to say it, but I wish the band would do one final leg of touring and just disband on a high note. Invite Steven, Matt, Gilby, and Izzy for some shows and call it a day. An album is obviously not coming,  and I'd rather Slash have more time devoted to his so efforts. He actually puts out records unlike Axl. Not even hating on Axl anymore, Axl is Axl. He's gonna do his thing, and Slash should be free of it to do his. Hope 2021/2022 is the final farewell.

Edited October 24, 2020 by pugachev

[El Guapo 1,135]

1 hour ago, pugachev said:

Hate to say it, but I wish the band would do one final leg of touring and just disband on a high note. Invite Steven, Matt, Gilby, and Izzy for some shows and call it a day. An album is obviously not coming,  and I'd rather Slash have more time devoted to his so efforts. He actually puts out records unlike Axl. Not even hating on Axl anymore, Axl is Axl. He's gonna do his thing, and Slash should be free of it to do his. Hope 2021/2022 is the final farewell.

Maybe that would be the best at this point. 

[MaskingApathy 2,337]

2 hours ago, pugachev said:

Hate to say it, but I wish the band would do one final leg of touring and just disband on a high note. Invite Steven, Matt, Gilby, and Izzy for some shows and call it a day. An album is obviously not coming,  and I'd rather Slash have more time devoted to his so efforts. He actually puts out records unlike Axl. Not even hating on Axl anymore, Axl is Axl. He's gonna do his thing, and Slash should be free of it to do his. Hope 2021/2022 is the final farewell.

I agree. If they're not going to do another album then just get the other guys together for one last run (and get rid of Frank, Fortus, and Melissa for it). Maybe even invite Tracy, Roberta, Teddy Zig Zag, etc for guest spots. Then Slash can focus on SMKC and regularly put out new music there.

[allwaystired 2,659]

2 hours ago, pugachev said:

Hate to say it, but I wish the band would do one final leg of touring and just disband on a high note. Invite Steven, Matt, Gilby, and Izzy for some shows and call it a day. An album is obviously not coming,  and I'd rather Slash have more time devoted to his so efforts. He actually puts out records unlike Axl. Not even hating on Axl anymore, Axl is Axl. He's gonna do his thing, and Slash should be free of it to do his. Hope 2021/2022 is the final farewell.

I totally agree. I don't want to see this continued to be flogged to death if it isn't moving forward or changing. Why would anyone? Surely no-one wants to see the same thing over and over getting weaker and weaker? 

Look to the future, or leave good memories now. 

[Tom-Ass 7,702]

I also think they should hang it up... The reunion was cool for a minute but it was so half assed.. This lineup is just weak.. Fortus, Frank and Melissa just give it a stale vibe.. If Axl was awesome it would be easier to get over the Karaoke band vibe but he isn't.. He sounds like crap and looks like crap. I haven't been a fan of the dude  since about 2001 so I am not sure why expected anything better.  Wishful thinking I suppose.. He was "good enough" to  make it work in 2016 but not anymore.  Maybe if the band was better it would be easier to get by his shortcomings.. Get any combination of Izzy, Steven, Matt or Gibly back.. Do a farewell tour and call it a day.. Maybe Axl would be inspired to be playing with Izzy and perform better.. Who knows..

[Tom2112 2,355]

On 10/22/2020 at 1:05 PM, DTJ80 said:

I was 99% sure it was Slash. Duffs ‘controversial comments’ seem to be related to Frank.

I know Matt has his history with GNR and talks with Slash/Duff... but he's an egomaniac! and Slash and Duff know that full well. They are not confiding in Matt about not being happy in GNR 2016-present. He is not clued about GNR at all, backed up with how he found out about the reunion the same day we did.

Matts pissed to this day that he didn't get asked for a spot in the NITL band, he proved how pissy he is by unfollowing Slash and Duff after the announcement. He put bullshit claims in his book A) because he was pissed B) because he needed something juicy to get some headlines... unfortunately he and his publishers have completely bungled the release of the book😄 If Matt could sit back and JUST play the drums he might have managed to get a guest spot, he can't and that's why the big 3 have given him a wide birth! I'd sleep soundly if I was Frank

As for SMKC, there's almost no chance of a tour in 2021... apart from the problem of the virus holding dates hostage until mid summer... at the earliest, Myles is far too busy with solo stuff and AB... the record will likely come out though and in 2022 there might be a bit of a tour, but it's not going to be months long as Slash will be busy with GNR, who even without a new album will be touring heavily to make up for being stuck at home due to the pandemic.

[Ant 960]

AFD5 is the only way. Just go out with class.

The idea of a Fortus / Melissa / Frank GNR album with a 60 y.o. Axl is just.... how could it possibly be good! I mean if they wanted to do it, if they had something to say, I'd reserve judgement, but... I think Axl/DC might have been Axl's way of settling his legacy with himself. 

 

With GNR it feels like Axl just likes to be the boss of a pleasant, benign corporation. They may as a well be selling rotisserie chickens. I just want Slash to crank out as much guitar in the next 10 years as possible, before the 80's start to catch up with him -- whatever the venue, whatever the band. 

GET IT ON TAPE, SAUL! LET'S GO!

Edited October 25, 2020 by Ant

[DTJ80 1,068]

8 hours ago, Tom2112 said:

I know Matt has his history with GNR and talks with Slash/Duff... but he's an egomaniac! and Slash and Duff know that full well. They are not confiding in Matt about not being happy in GNR 2016-present. He is not clued about GNR at all, backed up with how he found out about the reunion the same day we did.

Matts pissed to this day that he didn't get asked for a spot in the NITL band, he proved how pissy he is by unfollowing Slash and Duff after the announcement. He put bullshit claims in his book A) because he was pissed B) because he needed something juicy to get some headlines... unfortunately he and his publishers have completely bungled the release of the book😄 If Matt could sit back and JUST play the drums he might have managed to get a guest spot, he can't and that's why the big 3 have given him a wide birth! I'd sleep soundly if I was Frank

As for SMKC, there's almost no chance of a tour in 2021... apart from the problem of the virus holding dates hostage until mid summer... at the earliest, Myles is far too busy with solo stuff and AB... the record will likely come out though and in 2022 there might be a bit of a tour, but it's not going to be months long as Slash will be busy with GNR, who even without a new album will be touring heavily to make up for being stuck at home due to the pandemic.

Absolutely agree mate. Dunno if you meant to quote someone else though? I didn’t mention SMKC...unless I am losing the plot....?! 🤔😂

[JimiRose 278]

Agree but with the caveat only if there are no plans to release a new album imminently and regualry into the future. IF and I know this seems silly, if axl was gonna release 3 new albums over the next 5 years with this  incarnation plus the UYI and CD reissues, then tour away GnR. However we know that's not gonna happen. So I'd take an original 5 summer reunion world tour. 30/40 shows. And done. Then I just have to outlive Axl and wait for TB to release the vault to capitalise on every penny they can. Sad but true.

13 hours ago, pugachev said:

Hate to say it, but I wish the band would do one final leg of touring and just disband on a high note. Invite Steven, Matt, Gilby, and Izzy for some shows and call it a day. An album is obviously not coming,  and I'd rather Slash have more time devoted to his so efforts. He actually puts out records unlike Axl. Not even hating on Axl anymore, Axl is Axl. He's gonna do his thing, and Slash should be free of it to do his. Hope 2021/2022 is the final farewell.

 

[Tom-Ass 7,702]

5 hours ago, Ant said:

The idea of a Fortus / Melissa / Frank GNR album with a 60 y.o. Axl is just.... how could it possibly be good!

Seriously.. I have almost zero interest in that

[El Guapo 1,135]

It's just very hard to imagine a new album being anything but a disappointing patchwork where everything and everyone is thrown together without a vision.

[moreblack 1,979]

12 hours ago, Ant said:

The idea of a Fortus / Melissa / Frank GNR album with a 60 y.o. Axl is just.... how could it possibly be good!

I've heard some of Melissa's music, not really GNR style. But for the life of me I don't recall ever hearing Fortus write anything. What songs has he created?

[Mendez 863]

1 minute ago, moreblack said:

I've heard some of Melissa's music, not really GNR style. But for the life of me I don't recall ever hearing Fortus write anything. What songs has he created?

he did the 2nd Dead Dasies album, which was just sounded like a jam band based on classic blues rock tropes, so I doubt much effort needed to be put into it.

 

On "Better", he wrote the chorus riff ("now i know you better" riff), although its a bit obscured by Bumblefoots overlayed guitar, but you can hear it on the old leaks way better, thats about it tbh.

 

He did the Love Split Love stuff back in the 90s (of which ive never heard)

 

so pretty much

[Tom2112 2,355]

13 hours ago, DTJ80 said:

Absolutely agree mate. Dunno if you meant to quote someone else though? I didn’t mention SMKC...unless I am losing the plot....?! 🤔😂

No the SMKC weigh in on the main topic of the thread. Mygnr needs to hear what I have to say on the matter 😄

[Tom2112 2,355]

1 hour ago, Mendez said:

he did the 2nd Dead Dasies album, which was just sounded like a jam band based on classic blues rock tropes, so I doubt much effort needed to be put into it.

 

On "Better", he wrote the chorus riff ("now i know you better" riff), although its a bit obscured by Bumblefoots overlayed guitar, but you can hear it on the old leaks way better, thats about it tbh.

 

He did the Love Split Love stuff back in the 90s (of which ive never heard)

 

so pretty much

He said he did more, and that in the later copies of the album he has more credits. I think the Better riff is the only one I've specifically heard him reference though so I assume that's the only major one. Not exactly the greatest riff, but it served its purpose!

[DTJ80 1,068]

32 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

No the SMKC weigh in on the main topic of the thread. Mygnr needs to hear what I have to say on the matter 😄

I lose track of the threads I’m posting on TBF 🤣. And quite right - say your piece on the matter!

Edited October 25, 2020 by DTJ80

[cineater 1,274]

hmm, you know how everybody gets a side project to put out when they think GNR is going to put something out and it will help support it?  They're going for 2021?  May not mean shit either, everybody has had a lot of time on their hands.

[moreblack 1,979]

2 hours ago, cineater said:

hmm, you know how everybody gets a side project to put out when they think GNR is going to put something out and it will help support it?  They're going for 2021?  May not mean shit either, everybody has had a lot of time on their hands.

True, everyone's stuck at home with nothing but time to create. I expect next year every artist will put out their best albums ever, with all they've written during lockdown.

[cineater 1,274]

1 hour ago, moreblack said:

True, everyone's stuck at home with nothing but time to create. I expect next year every artist will put out their best albums ever, with all they've written during lockdown.

We could get some books too.

[MaskingApathy 2,337]

1 hour ago, moreblack said:

True, everyone's stuck at home with nothing but time to create. I expect next year every artist will put out their best albums ever, with all they've written during lockdown.

Even I'm putting out some music next year.

[StayofExecution2020 987]

14 hours ago, moreblack said:

I've heard some of Melissa's music, not really GNR style. But for the life of me I don't recall ever hearing Fortus write anything. What songs has he created?

He only knows how to promote ugly guitars on instagram

Edited October 26, 2020 by StayofExecution2020

[jamillos 1,891]

Slash is the type of a guy who probably wouldn't be against an online event - if they release a new record and aren't able to tour it, they could make live gigs online. Something Guns would never do IMO. 

[allwaystired 2,659]

Just look at how must bands have capitalised on this year in one way or the other. Pretty much everyone has tried something different in these unique times. 

What a wasted opportunity for GNR. 

[Popcorn crew 131]

For every SMKC album we will have GnR Greatest Hits so I do not worry much.