eddiedingle 11 Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 Wasted any momentum and goodwill they had. I don't believe it will ever happen. And if touring ever resumes post covid I won't be wasting a cent supporting them for the same old show with a fat out of breath Axl. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pugachev 198 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 (edited) Hate to say it, but I wish the band would do one final leg of touring and just disband on a high note. Invite Steven, Matt, Gilby, and Izzy for some shows and call it a day. An album is obviously not coming, and I'd rather Slash have more time devoted to his so efforts. He actually puts out records unlike Axl. Not even hating on Axl anymore, Axl is Axl. He's gonna do his thing, and Slash should be free of it to do his. Hope 2021/2022 is the final farewell. Edited October 24 by pugachev 2 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Guapo 1,024 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 1 hour ago, pugachev said: Hate to say it, but I wish the band would do one final leg of touring and just disband on a high note. Invite Steven, Matt, Gilby, and Izzy for some shows and call it a day. An album is obviously not coming, and I'd rather Slash have more time devoted to his so efforts. He actually puts out records unlike Axl. Not even hating on Axl anymore, Axl is Axl. He's gonna do his thing, and Slash should be free of it to do his. Hope 2021/2022 is the final farewell. Maybe that would be the best at this point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MaskingApathy 2,185 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 2 hours ago, pugachev said: Hate to say it, but I wish the band would do one final leg of touring and just disband on a high note. Invite Steven, Matt, Gilby, and Izzy for some shows and call it a day. An album is obviously not coming, and I'd rather Slash have more time devoted to his so efforts. He actually puts out records unlike Axl. Not even hating on Axl anymore, Axl is Axl. He's gonna do his thing, and Slash should be free of it to do his. Hope 2021/2022 is the final farewell. I agree. If they're not going to do another album then just get the other guys together for one last run (and get rid of Frank, Fortus, and Melissa for it). Maybe even invite Tracy, Roberta, Teddy Zig Zag, etc for guest spots. Then Slash can focus on SMKC and regularly put out new music there. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
allwaystired 2,227 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 2 hours ago, pugachev said: Hate to say it, but I wish the band would do one final leg of touring and just disband on a high note. Invite Steven, Matt, Gilby, and Izzy for some shows and call it a day. An album is obviously not coming, and I'd rather Slash have more time devoted to his so efforts. He actually puts out records unlike Axl. Not even hating on Axl anymore, Axl is Axl. He's gonna do his thing, and Slash should be free of it to do his. Hope 2021/2022 is the final farewell. I totally agree. I don't want to see this continued to be flogged to death if it isn't moving forward or changing. Why would anyone? Surely no-one wants to see the same thing over and over getting weaker and weaker? Look to the future, or leave good memories now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom-Ass 7,594 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 I also think they should hang it up... The reunion was cool for a minute but it was so half assed.. This lineup is just weak.. Fortus, Frank and Melissa just give it a stale vibe.. If Axl was awesome it would be easier to get over the Karaoke band vibe but he isn't.. He sounds like crap and looks like crap. I haven't been a fan of the dude since about 2001 so I am not sure why expected anything better. Wishful thinking I suppose.. He was "good enough" to make it work in 2016 but not anymore. Maybe if the band was better it would be easier to get by his shortcomings.. Get any combination of Izzy, Steven, Matt or Gibly back.. Do a farewell tour and call it a day.. Maybe Axl would be inspired to be playing with Izzy and perform better.. Who knows.. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom2112 2,169 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 On 10/22/2020 at 1:05 PM, DTJ80 said: I was 99% sure it was Slash. Duffs ‘controversial comments’ seem to be related to Frank. I know Matt has his history with GNR and talks with Slash/Duff... but he's an egomaniac! and Slash and Duff know that full well. They are not confiding in Matt about not being happy in GNR 2016-present. He is not clued about GNR at all, backed up with how he found out about the reunion the same day we did. Matts pissed to this day that he didn't get asked for a spot in the NITL band, he proved how pissy he is by unfollowing Slash and Duff after the announcement. He put bullshit claims in his book A) because he was pissed B) because he needed something juicy to get some headlines... unfortunately he and his publishers have completely bungled the release of the book😄 If Matt could sit back and JUST play the drums he might have managed to get a guest spot, he can't and that's why the big 3 have given him a wide birth! I'd sleep soundly if I was Frank As for SMKC, there's almost no chance of a tour in 2021... apart from the problem of the virus holding dates hostage until mid summer... at the earliest, Myles is far too busy with solo stuff and AB... the record will likely come out though and in 2022 there might be a bit of a tour, but it's not going to be months long as Slash will be busy with GNR, who even without a new album will be touring heavily to make up for being stuck at home due to the pandemic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ant 904 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 (edited) AFD5 is the only way. Just go out with class. The idea of a Fortus / Melissa / Frank GNR album with a 60 y.o. Axl is just.... how could it possibly be good! I mean if they wanted to do it, if they had something to say, I'd reserve judgement, but... I think Axl/DC might have been Axl's way of settling his legacy with himself. With GNR it feels like Axl just likes to be the boss of a pleasant, benign corporation. They may as a well be selling rotisserie chickens. I just want Slash to crank out as much guitar in the next 10 years as possible, before the 80's start to catch up with him -- whatever the venue, whatever the band. GET IT ON TAPE, SAUL! LET'S GO! Edited October 25 by Ant 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DTJ80 911 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 8 hours ago, Tom2112 said: I know Matt has his history with GNR and talks with Slash/Duff... but he's an egomaniac! and Slash and Duff know that full well. They are not confiding in Matt about not being happy in GNR 2016-present. He is not clued about GNR at all, backed up with how he found out about the reunion the same day we did. Matts pissed to this day that he didn't get asked for a spot in the NITL band, he proved how pissy he is by unfollowing Slash and Duff after the announcement. He put bullshit claims in his book A) because he was pissed B) because he needed something juicy to get some headlines... unfortunately he and his publishers have completely bungled the release of the book😄 If Matt could sit back and JUST play the drums he might have managed to get a guest spot, he can't and that's why the big 3 have given him a wide birth! I'd sleep soundly if I was Frank As for SMKC, there's almost no chance of a tour in 2021... apart from the problem of the virus holding dates hostage until mid summer... at the earliest, Myles is far too busy with solo stuff and AB... the record will likely come out though and in 2022 there might be a bit of a tour, but it's not going to be months long as Slash will be busy with GNR, who even without a new album will be touring heavily to make up for being stuck at home due to the pandemic. Absolutely agree mate. Dunno if you meant to quote someone else though? I didn’t mention SMKC...unless I am losing the plot....?! 🤔😂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JimiRose 178 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 Agree but with the caveat only if there are no plans to release a new album imminently and regualry into the future. IF and I know this seems silly, if axl was gonna release 3 new albums over the next 5 years with this incarnation plus the UYI and CD reissues, then tour away GnR. However we know that's not gonna happen. So I'd take an original 5 summer reunion world tour. 30/40 shows. And done. Then I just have to outlive Axl and wait for TB to release the vault to capitalise on every penny they can. Sad but true. 13 hours ago, pugachev said: Hate to say it, but I wish the band would do one final leg of touring and just disband on a high note. Invite Steven, Matt, Gilby, and Izzy for some shows and call it a day. An album is obviously not coming, and I'd rather Slash have more time devoted to his so efforts. He actually puts out records unlike Axl. Not even hating on Axl anymore, Axl is Axl. He's gonna do his thing, and Slash should be free of it to do his. Hope 2021/2022 is the final farewell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom-Ass 7,594 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 5 hours ago, Ant said: The idea of a Fortus / Melissa / Frank GNR album with a 60 y.o. Axl is just.... how could it possibly be good! Seriously.. I have almost zero interest in that 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Guapo 1,024 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 It's just very hard to imagine a new album being anything but a disappointing patchwork where everything and everyone is thrown together without a vision. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moreblack 1,959 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 12 hours ago, Ant said: The idea of a Fortus / Melissa / Frank GNR album with a 60 y.o. Axl is just.... how could it possibly be good! I've heard some of Melissa's music, not really GNR style. But for the life of me I don't recall ever hearing Fortus write anything. What songs has he created? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mendez 856 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 1 minute ago, moreblack said: I've heard some of Melissa's music, not really GNR style. But for the life of me I don't recall ever hearing Fortus write anything. What songs has he created? he did the 2nd Dead Dasies album, which was just sounded like a jam band based on classic blues rock tropes, so I doubt much effort needed to be put into it. On "Better", he wrote the chorus riff ("now i know you better" riff), although its a bit obscured by Bumblefoots overlayed guitar, but you can hear it on the old leaks way better, thats about it tbh. He did the Love Split Love stuff back in the 90s (of which ive never heard) so pretty much Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom2112 2,169 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 13 hours ago, DTJ80 said: Absolutely agree mate. Dunno if you meant to quote someone else though? I didn’t mention SMKC...unless I am losing the plot....?! 🤔😂 No the SMKC weigh in on the main topic of the thread. Mygnr needs to hear what I have to say on the matter 😄 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom2112 2,169 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 1 hour ago, Mendez said: he did the 2nd Dead Dasies album, which was just sounded like a jam band based on classic blues rock tropes, so I doubt much effort needed to be put into it. On "Better", he wrote the chorus riff ("now i know you better" riff), although its a bit obscured by Bumblefoots overlayed guitar, but you can hear it on the old leaks way better, thats about it tbh. He did the Love Split Love stuff back in the 90s (of which ive never heard) so pretty much He said he did more, and that in the later copies of the album he has more credits. I think the Better riff is the only one I've specifically heard him reference though so I assume that's the only major one. Not exactly the greatest riff, but it served its purpose! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DTJ80 911 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Tom2112 said: No the SMKC weigh in on the main topic of the thread. Mygnr needs to hear what I have to say on the matter 😄 I lose track of the threads I’m posting on TBF 🤣. And quite right - say your piece on the matter! Edited October 25 by DTJ80 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cineater 1,174 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 hmm, you know how everybody gets a side project to put out when they think GNR is going to put something out and it will help support it? They're going for 2021? May not mean shit either, everybody has had a lot of time on their hands. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moreblack 1,959 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 2 hours ago, cineater said: hmm, you know how everybody gets a side project to put out when they think GNR is going to put something out and it will help support it? They're going for 2021? May not mean shit either, everybody has had a lot of time on their hands. True, everyone's stuck at home with nothing but time to create. I expect next year every artist will put out their best albums ever, with all they've written during lockdown. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cineater 1,174 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 1 hour ago, moreblack said: True, everyone's stuck at home with nothing but time to create. I expect next year every artist will put out their best albums ever, with all they've written during lockdown. We could get some books too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MaskingApathy 2,185 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 1 hour ago, moreblack said: True, everyone's stuck at home with nothing but time to create. I expect next year every artist will put out their best albums ever, with all they've written during lockdown. Even I'm putting out some music next year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StayofExecution2020 845 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 (edited) 14 hours ago, moreblack said: I've heard some of Melissa's music, not really GNR style. But for the life of me I don't recall ever hearing Fortus write anything. What songs has he created? He only knows how to promote ugly guitars on instagram Edited October 26 by StayofExecution2020 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jamillos 1,632 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 Slash is the type of a guy who probably wouldn't be against an online event - if they release a new record and aren't able to tour it, they could make live gigs online. Something Guns would never do IMO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
allwaystired 2,227 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 Just look at how must bands have capitalised on this year in one way or the other. Pretty much everyone has tried something different in these unique times. What a wasted opportunity for GNR. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popcorn crew 131 Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 For every SMKC album we will have GnR Greatest Hits so I do not worry much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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