UseYourDemocracyIII 51 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Something I didn't consider before: the time between the last and first shows of 2014 and 2016 is 664 days. If my predictions are right (Europe and NA 2021 dates will get canned), then that would be 602 days of rest for Axl. While I want to believe he'll return to 2016 form, I feel that it's just going to be worse. Gold Coast, be prepared for rehearsal level vocals 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Holographic Universe 970 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, metallex78 said: Only in the land of GN’R does the band have nothing to do with the art used that promotes a tour... I've been hearing those kind of excuses since 2007 when they announced the Australian “Chinese Democracy” tour, that Jarmo assured me, had nothing to do with Axl or the band, but the tour promoter... It’s obvious the promoter is using the image. I don’t understand why any forum member believes the image should not be used since it features members no longer in the band. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
allwaystired 2,893 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 22 minutes ago, The Holographic Universe said: It’s obvious the promoter is using the image. I don’t understand why any forum member believes the image should not be used since it features members no longer in the band. ........or that it being used is new or different. It's been used throughout the NITL tour: on tour-shirts, lithos, posters, all sorts. I can't understand why it's use in this latest advert is even worthy of note really. The advert looks like it was designed by a 16 year old student on the first day of a computer design of course, which is the only really notable thing about it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GNRfanMILO 1,962 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Remember what they did with the Apollo show... AFD crosses everywhere, only to have a regular setlist and no Izzy/Steven guest spots. 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChineseDemocracy2004 1,674 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 On 11/18/2020 at 10:52 PM, Sydney Fan said: Didnt the band advertise something along these lines with one of the nuguns tours, and i was just the same setlist except a different light show? Was that one of the Vegas residencies? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doakes 51 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, GNRfanMILO said: Remember what they did with the Apollo show... AFD crosses everywhere, only to have a regular setlist and no Izzy/Steven guest spots. Right. If Steven and Izzy weren't involved then, locally in the states-- I don't see them being flown overseas in the middle of all this for shows that may not even happen/ or be allowed to draw the crowds to make it worth the band's while to split that "fp money" with any former members. but who knows... It'd be great if it happens. Edited November 22, 2020 by doakes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UseYourDemocracyIII 51 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 26 minutes ago, doakes said: Right. If Steven and Izzy weren't involved then, locally in the states-- I don't see them being flown overseas in the middle of all this for shows that may not even happen/ or be allowed to draw the crowds to make it worth the band's while to split that "fp money" with any former members. but who knows... It'd be great if it happens. Why does everyone keep saying these shows won't happen? Australia has been vigilant. There were 14 cases in South Australia and they slammed back into heavy lock down within a day. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gibbo 4,543 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) Win Tickets To See Guns N' Roses On Their 2021 Australian Tour https://www.triplem.com.au/classicrock/win/dab-guns-n-roses-169467 Edited November 22, 2020 by Gibbo 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
allwaystired 2,893 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 If you choose to speculate that Izzy and Adler are back based on the use of the AFD cross, which has been used throughout the NITL tour, in one crappy looking advert, then the future dissapointment is all yours. Won't stop some naive people though, just as that clearly fake pathetic piece of paper hasn't stopped naive people thinking a new album will be released on Nov 25th. Tragic all round. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
metallex78 426 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 Just now, allwaystired said: If you choose to speculate that Izzy and Adler are back based on the use of the AFD cross, which has been used throughout the NITL tour, in one crappy looking advert, then the future dissapointment is all yours. Won't stop some naive people though, just as that clearly fake pathetic piece of paper hasn't stopped naive people thinking a new album will be released on Nov 25th. Tragic all round. It’s one thing to use it on merch etc. but to use it in the main artwork to promote the tour does absolutely send the wrong message. Last time they toured Australia in 2017, they mainly used the blood splattered bullet logo. And if they showed any pics of the band in tour promo, it was the one of Axl, Slash and Duff together on stage. So, it was pretty clear who the tour advertised as being the main guys in the band. To not see the difference in outright using the iconic AFD cross, showing the five original members, and trying to sell it as such, I think you must be tragic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DownUnderScott 397 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, allwaystired said: If you choose to speculate that Izzy and Adler are back based on the use of the AFD cross, which has been used throughout the NITL tour, in one crappy looking advert, then the future dissapointment is all yours. Won't stop some naive people though, just as that clearly fake pathetic piece of paper hasn't stopped naive people thinking a new album will be released on Nov 25th. Tragic all round. Yep, more chance of Rob Gardner and Tracii Guns being on the stage ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
allwaystired 2,893 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, metallex78 said: It’s one thing to use it on merch etc. but to use it in the main artwork to promote the tour does absolutely send the wrong message. Last time they toured Australia in 2017, they mainly used the blood splattered bullet logo. And if they showed any pics of the band in tour promo, it was the one of Axl, Slash and Duff together on stage. So, it was pretty clear who the tour advertised as being the main guys in the band. To not see the difference in outright using the iconic AFD cross, showing the five original members, and trying to sell it as such, I think you must be tragic. Of course there's a difference....in our minds. But most people won't give a fuck about this image. They're probably barely even aware who Izzy and Adler are! It's grab the silly wig and 'dress up like the 80s night' in town. GNR tonight, Spice Girls next week. We're very much in the minority who give a shit about these things now, in GNR world...... If people choose to read anything into the use of an old image being used to promote another tour of old material, the they should go right ahead- spend a year speculating that Izzy and Adler are back. Again, this image has been used throughout the NITL tour, on the tour shirts, on posters, and on lithos, whether any of us feel that was sensible or not. If people choose to ignore this fact.... they can go right ahead. It really does beggar belief that people think the AFD 5 are back but they chose not to mention it in the press releases to promote ticket sales for the tour. Edited November 22, 2020 by allwaystired Quote Link to post Share on other sites
allwaystired 2,893 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, DownUnderScott said: Yep, more chance of Rob Gardner and Tracii Guns being on the stage ! Exactly! But people seem insistent on expecting something based on the use of an image in a shit advert. Nobody will be able to tell them otherwise though....so roll on November 2021! It'll take November 2020 to roll past to convince them that press release is fake too. We can blame the band all we want for making adverts that could be interpreted as slightly misleading.....but some level of personal intelligence learned from last behaviour has to come into things somewhere on the fan front! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JimiRose 295 Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 23 hours ago, metallex78 said: Only in the land of GN’R does the band have nothing to do with the art used that promotes a tour... I've been hearing those kind of excuses since 2007 when they announced the Australian “Chinese Democracy” tour, that Jarmo assured me, had nothing to do with Axl or the band, but the tour promoter... Fuck Jarmo, I've seen less dick sucking in a whore house than that guy does to GnR management. It's worth a few hours entertainment debating on the HTGTH Fb page about how shit the band is run, supplying lots of evidence and reading his ridiculous excuses. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
metallex78 426 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just got my tickets for Sydney. First time being front row for GN’R. Aside from 2013, but does that even count...? Apparently presale tickets for Sydney have sold out I think? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ducks 27 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, metallex78 said: Just got my tickets for Sydney. First time being front row for GN’R. Aside from 2013, but does that even count...? Apparently presale tickets for Sydney have sold out I think? That's awesome if true! No doubt they left the Saturday night free to schedule a second Sydney show. I also just got my ticket for Melbourne. Can't wait to see the MCG packed once again! So glad I have this to look forward to on the horizon 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DownUnderScott 397 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 4 hours ago, metallex78 said: Just got my tickets for Sydney. First time being front row for GN’R. Aside from 2013, but does that even count...? Apparently presale tickets for Sydney have sold out I think? I bought tickets for Brisbane and Gold Coast shows. Will wait and see how 2021 pans out on whether or not I fly to Sydney or Melbourne for those shows. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sonicjam 20 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 No free tickets available through my work, so decided to give it a miss unless cheap tickets are available on the day. Not paying $250 unless axl starts releasing music again 😅 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crash Dieter 24 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) Anyone checked the prices? Yikes things have changed since the last tour... Link to prices How the heck do you even post an image anymore?? Edited November 23, 2020 by Crash Dieter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adamsapple 714 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 40 minutes ago, Crash Dieter said: Anyone checked the prices? Yikes things have changed since the last tour... Link to prices How the heck do you even post an image anymore?? vip is around 650 us dollars, cheapest is about 160 usd. to them its pocket change, for many fans two mid level tickets plus travelling and maybe some merch is more than half a month of hard work. disgusting. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
allwaystired 2,893 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) Is that right? 495 aus dollars for GA standing?! In UK money you're talking nearly £300 for GA and £500 for the pit! That is absolutely fucking outrageous. I knew they were now a band for the non-discerning rich folks now, but that really is something else. Edited November 23, 2020 by allwaystired Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Free Bird 2,112 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) Humans are a dumb species. I still remember when everybody complained about the cross with current band members and now, when they use the old one again, there are people who have their hopes high that Izzy and Steven will return. Those people will be the first ones complaining again, about the use of the old cross without a personal change. I mean, everybody should know by now how this band operates. There is no system behind all that. If you really think this is a sign for Izzy's return than it's your own fault that this band is a big let down for you. Edited November 23, 2020 by Free Bird 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panda2 36 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, Free Bird said: If you really think this is a sign for Izzy's return than it's your own fault that this band is a big let down for you. Izzy is back , and Addler too, thats real , as guest members ,pretty pbvious 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alfierose 5,056 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I've got a free day tomorrow so will update the tour section so those of you planning to attend shows can post in there too. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Juventino 334 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 hours ago, allwaystired said: Is that right? 495 aus dollars for GA standing?! In UK money you're talking nearly £300 for GA and £500 for the pit! That is absolutely fucking outrageous. I knew they were now a band for the non-discerning rich folks now, but that really is something else. Buying a VIP ticket to get right to the front is $475. A GA standing section behind that is $242. I was in that last time and it was pretty close to the stage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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