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In fact, a big rock band like GNR will earn quite a bit on new music I think.

Even though the streaming income is pretty low for most bands/artist it will still generate a good bonus with millions of streams. On top of that GNR still have fans that actually buys the physical product.
It also will create buzz for the tour and generate more touring income

They can even do some of these deluxe box set versions that fans are gonna pay up for.

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Lets say GNRs new album consists of 14 songs and they each get played like 5 million times on spotify. (AC/CD Shot in the dark pr. now has 13.7 million plays)

This will generate about 280 000 dollars for this one streaming application alone. You also generate income from streams from Tidal, Youtube etc and digital downloads on Itunes.

I think that in Axls head this is pure artistic integrity and he does not want a product out with the name GNR on it that is not holding up quality wise against AFD/UIY/CD.
We all hoped this would change with Duff and Slash in, but it seems like nothings changed.


 

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The whole ‘there is no money in releasing new music’ argument is pish IMO. There is no downside to it and can only serve to AT LEAST keep touring attendances higher. Hell - just release it via streaming/download with limited physical copies via their website if needed.

Just look on this forum as a snapshot - there are loads of folk who saw them multiple times in NITL but have said can’t justify going again without something new. It’s a different world now and money is ever more precious too - for some it’s a real investment to buy that ticket. New music as opposed to a new lightshow is the best bet. Even a damned tour EP.

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17 minutes ago, betterman said:

Lets say GNRs new album consists of 14 songs and they each get played like 5 million times on spotify. (AC/CD Shot in the dark pr. now has 13.7 million plays)

This will generate about 280 000 dollars for this one streaming application alone. You also generate income from streams from Tidal, Youtube etc and digital downloads on Itunes.

I think that in Axls head this is pure artistic integrity and he does not want a product out with the name GNR on it that is not holding up quality wise against AFD/UIY/CD.
We all hoped this would change with Duff and Slash in, but it seems like nothings changed.


 

I think it’s artistic integrity, too. Which is why Im becoming more skeptical about a new album. He doesn’t seem to believe in the material. 

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26 minutes ago, DTJ80 said:

The whole ‘there is no money in releasing new music’ argument is pish IMO. There is no downside to it and can only serve to AT LEAST keep touring attendances higher. Hell - just release it via streaming/download with limited physical copies via their website if needed.

Just look on this forum as a snapshot - there are loads of folk who saw them multiple times in NITL but have said can’t justify going again without something new. It’s a different world now and money is ever more precious too - for some it’s a real investment to buy that ticket. New music as opposed to a new lightshow is the best bet. Even a damned tour EP.

Right, and even if it was the case – which it’s not – it still doesn’t explain/justify not releasing any old (or at least new) pro-shots, like heaps of other bands do. It doesn’t require much – just transfer it to a digital form, polish it a bit and put it on YT. Or even if they released it as is, we’d still handle it even without any input from their side. Great candy for the fans, and it barely costs anything. Certain “bootleggers” from the fans community have achieved incredible results, we have awesome mkv videos in GB volumes… so why should it be such a problem for a management / band that made half a billion in two years?  
But no, that would be disrespectful to what’s happening in the world, huh. Retarded.

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4 minutes ago, jamillos said:

Right, and even if it was the case – which it’s not – it still doesn’t explain/justify not releasing any old (or at least new) pro-shots, like heaps of other bands do. It doesn’t require much – just transfer it to a digital form, polish it a bit and put it on YT. Or even if they released it as is, we’d still handle it even without any input from their side. Great candy for the fans, and it barely costs anything. Certain “bootleggers” from the fans community have achieved incredible results, we have awesome mkv videos in GB volumes… so why should it be such a problem for a management / band that made half a billion in two years?  
But no, that would be disrespectful to what’s happening in the world, huh. Retarded.

100%. I ranted on the New Album thread all about this actually. I think I had to just vent! 😂

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1 hour ago, betterman said:

There has to be a new album ready for touring, there is no other time than now to finish up what they have. If they are not able to complete something during these covid-times they are never going to finish up the album. 

There is actually a possibility that they have material for several records with input from Duff and Slash. Lets hope they are piling up material like in the dark times (99-02)

I think Axl might have some severe psychological problems, almost like Brian Wilson and Syd Barrett, regarding letting new material out. He has no problem with touring it seems..

Agreed. If there's no new album in 2021 we don't have to worry anymore. Even if they still have the nerve to hint at the possibility.

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1 hour ago, jamillos said:

Right, and even if it was the case – which it’s not – it still doesn’t explain/justify not releasing any old (or at least new) pro-shots, like heaps of other bands do. It doesn’t require much – just transfer it to a digital form, polish it a bit and put it on YT. Or even if they released it as is, we’d still handle it even without any input from their side. Great candy for the fans, and it barely costs anything. Certain “bootleggers” from the fans community have achieved incredible results, we have awesome mkv videos in GB volumes… so why should it be such a problem for a management / band that made half a billion in two years?  
But no, that would be disrespectful to what’s happening in the world, huh. Retarded.

All I can think, for the reason that old concerts aren’t released, is that Axl doesn’t want to promote old lineups, or put out footage that’s so great from the past, it makes people realise how truly bad he sounds now... 

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28 minutes ago, metallex78 said:

All I can think, for the reason that old concerts aren’t released, is that Axl doesn’t want to promote old lineups, or put out footage that’s so great from the past, it makes people realise how truly bad he sounds now... 

Thing is - the Tokyo DVDs are out there anyway for sale. What’s a few other ones from that era which would undoubtedly be better visually and sonically too?

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32 minutes ago, metallex78 said:

All I can think, for the reason that old concerts aren’t released, is that Axl doesn’t want to promote old lineups, or put out footage that’s so great from the past, it makes people realise how truly bad he sounds now... 

Yeah, this occurred to me too, and there definitely is some logic behind it. It’s still silly, though. Especially considering the only thing to officially represent the (original) past is Tokyo 92, if we’re not counting Welcome to the Videos. I mean, everyone even mildly interested have seen the reunion by now, and so any comparisons can be made – it’s not like the majority of old/new fans haven’t seen them yet and now are eager to go for the first time and there’s a terrible risk they’d be disappointed in Axl’s form. They’ve all seen them already, even if just on Youtube. It’s time to open the fucking vaults. 
Also, this still doesn’t explain why they haven’t released proper material at least from NITL, if nothing else. I don’t consider “the Selects” to be proper material, more like a half-assed, amateurish attempt. NITL, with its original choreography, is over. Even if they don’t innovate the 2021+ shows too much, it will be different, and there’s no risk people would choose to stay home instead of going (and the band thus losing money) just because they’ve seen it on a DVD beforehand. That would be kinda logical during 2016–19, but not any longer. 
Anyway, go look for logic in the world of GN’R and their ingenious, impeccable, award-winning management… 

Boy, have I been bitching somewhat more recently? 

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15 minutes ago, jamillos said:

Yeah, this occurred to me too, and there definitely is some logic behind it. It’s still silly, though. Especially considering the only thing to officially represent the (original) past is Tokyo 92, if we’re not counting Welcome to the Videos. I mean, everyone even mildly interested have seen the reunion by now, and so any comparisons can be made – it’s not like the majority of old/new fans haven’t seen them yet and now are eager to go for the first time and there’s a terrible risk they’d be disappointed in Axl’s form. They’ve all seen them already, even if just on Youtube. It’s time to open the fucking vaults. 
Also, this still doesn’t explain why they haven’t released proper material at least from NITL, if nothing else. I don’t consider “the Selects” to be proper material, more like a half-assed, amateurish attempt. NITL, with its original choreography, is over. Even if they don’t innovate the 2021+ shows too much, it will be different, and there’s no risk people would choose to stay home instead of going (and the band thus losing money) just because they’ve seen it on a DVD beforehand. That would be kinda logical during 2016–19, but not any longer. 
Anyway, go look for logic in the world of GN’R and their ingenious, impeccable, award-winning management… 

Boy, have I been bitching somewhat more recently? 

It’s ok mate - I consider myself one of the more positive ones and even I have hit a ‘rough patch’ where all I am doing is moaning the last few days. 🤣

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1 hour ago, DTJ80 said:

For the naive (me) on here - have you actually heard something or just kidding....?

Heard something and that Steven and Izzy are involved in same way. That would explain them using the cross other wise it's pretty lame 

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19 minutes ago, Sydney Fan said:

Thanks Gibbo, i have faith in your comments. Are seeing them when they tour?.

Yeah I'll be there mate. Take all this with a grain of salt it could all be crap but I do think there is some truth in it

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8 minutes ago, Gibbo said:

Yeah I'll be there mate. Take all this with a grain of salt it could all be crap but I do think there is some truth in it

All good 🤞 crossed. 

2 minutes ago, vloors said:

If they were smart they would advertise it to drive ticket sales.

 

Who knows they could play that card depending how presale tickets go  which start next thursday. The band seem to surprise us when they tour.

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1 hour ago, Gibbo said:

Heard something and that Steven and Izzy are involved in same way. That would explain them using the cross other wise it's pretty lame 

But to use the cross, have them involved, but not telling anyone would be pretty lame too. Actually it's even more lame.

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12 hours ago, bumcheecksmcghee said:

Your answer is in the last sentence...  Touring=millions for the guys

Releasing music= no millions for the guys

Therefore, step 1, rinse an repeat... 👍

The thing that I struggle with is when is enough enough? These guys have enough money to last several lifetimes, now it’s just pure greed. Nobody lives forever and you can’t take your money to the grave...

Axl is basically ensuring TB and they’re extended family will be financially secure forever, Slash and Duffs families too.

I just don’t understand the mindset

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