Popular Post seely Posted November 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2020 Chinese Democracy is 12 years old today! Still we wait for that elusive follow up... By comparison, the same amount of time (just about, anyway) has passed between CD's release and now, as there was between Slash leaving and CD coming out... 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Happy b-day, Live Era and Spaghetti! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Killer Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, seely said: Chinese Democracy is 12 years old today! Still we wait for that elusive follow up... By comparison, the same amount of time (just about, anyway) has passed between CD's release and now, as there was between Slash leaving and CD coming out... That is bonkers to think. The band played new tracks, what, four or five years after Slash left? That would be the same equivalent of a new song being played in 2013 or so - which definitely has not happened. I believe the VH1 Behind the Music had a line about how GNR could have been the new Rolling Stones. Can you imagine if GNR had that kind of work rate? Edited November 24, 2020 by Spike Killer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian girl Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, jamillos said: Happy b-day, Live Era and Spaghetti! november seems to be the right month for axl.. :P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soon Posted November 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2020 What a great fucking album 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sausagebrain Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Part of me still can't believe that it was actually released in the end. Not that I don't like what was released. I do. A lot. It's just that the whole saga still seems so unlikely. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokingarthur Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 If anyone has theories as to Axl’s perfectionism, CD more than apply debunks them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Axl Rose at his creative fucking best. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Crazy that this album is ancient history, now 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 hours ago, jamillos said: Happy b-day, Live Era and Spaghetti! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted November 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) My favorite GN'R album. Such a bummer that nothing else has been released since but I'm very happy to have finally been able to buy Chinese Democracy Edited November 23, 2020 by RussTCB 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAFC Nick Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Sausagebrain said: Part of me still can't believe that it was actually released in the end. Not that I don't like what was released. I do. A lot. It's just that the whole saga still seems so unlikely. Agreed with you - especially considering we’ve had the reunion (almost 5 years since it was announced) and absolutely nothing in regards to new music, quite impressive that CD was actually released. I’m really glad it did see the light of day, it’s still probably my favourite album even if it is flawed and is missing some great village sessions tunes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Amir Posted November 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2020 The album that made me a GNR fan. Love it to this day. TWAT is perfection. Last year's leaks were the best things that have happened since. Can't believe it's 2020 and we still haven't (clearly) heard The General or Soul Monster (with lyrics). At least we got demos of Jackie Chan/Hard School and Atlas Shrugged, and Perhaps and State of Grace were nice surprises. And of course, the masterpiece that is Eye On You 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post downzy Posted November 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2020 The same amount of time has between between now and CD's release as Axl's 1996 fax and the release of CD. The 1996-2008 period felt like an eternity. The last twelve years went by fairly quickly in my opinion. The 2009/2010 tours were amazing. 2011-2015, not so much. The reunion was was fantastic, up to a point. Once 2018 rolled around and it was the same tour things started to get old. As for the album itself, I rarely listen to it anymore. But it's important to consider that we were all listening to the album in one form or another for nearly ten years before its release. It represents a time in my life that I consider formative and for that I'll look back at it fondly. Better, TWAT, Madagascar are some of the best GNR songs produced in my opinion. It's a shame there has been no follow up to this point. In 2015 GNR management told me that an album was slated for 2016. But as with all things GNR, plans changed with the departure of Bumble and DJ and the return of Slash and Duff. As some have stated, I think in many ways we should consider ourselves lucky that we actually got to buy the album. I don't think it was inevitable that it was going to come out (though the financial constraints on the album's release were considerable). Buying the album, hearing it performed live (with some of Axl's best vocals of the past twenty years), meeting Axl a couple of times, seeing Axl, Slash and Duff share a stage again. It's not been a bad 12 years for this GNR fan. It could have and should have been so much more. But if you told me back in 2007 that what I experienced in the last twelve years was going to happen I would have taken it with a smile on my face. 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeperilsofrockNRollDekednz Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 What was it like to meet Axl, Downzy? Any chance of your story please? I was pleased to meet Duff nine years ago. But Axl. That’s the stuff of myth for me. Saw GNR 18 times since Pukelpop 02. It’s been an adventure being a fan! Love that album. Have the alternative artwork cd in my safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lame ass security Posted November 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2020 12 years old, so I guess I should expect my copy to grow pubes and for Axl's voice to crack. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurhamGirl Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Happy birthday CD, I have only recently listened to it and find there is some amazing music and vocals, shall be listening to it a lot more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 12 years. I remember a time when I thought it was never going to happen. 'Chinese Democracy', 'Shacklers Revenge', 'Better', 'There Was A Time' & 'Prostitute' are real highlights for me. Too bad 'Atlas Shrugged', 'Perhaps' & 'State of Grace' were not officially released. 2006 - 2010 Axl's best years post UYI. Neither the 2016 reunion or AC/DC shows were on that level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draguns Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 4 hours ago, downzy said: The same amount of time has between between now and CD's release as Axl's 1996 fax and the release of CD. The 1996-2008 period felt like an eternity. The last twelve years went by fairly quickly in my opinion. The 2009/2010 tours were amazing. 2011-2015, not so much. The reunion was was fantastic, up to a point. Once 2018 rolled around and it was the same tour things started to get old. As for the album itself, I rarely listen to it anymore. But it's important to consider that we were all listening to the album in one form or another for nearly ten years before its release. It represents a time in my life that I consider formative and for that I'll look back at it fondly. Better, TWAT, Madagascar are some of the best GNR songs produced in my opinion. It's a shame there has been no follow up to this point. In 2015 GNR management told me that an album was slated for 2016. But as with all things GNR, plans changed with the departure of Bumble and DJ and the return of Slash and Duff. As some have stated, I think in many ways we should consider ourselves lucky that we actually got to buy the album. I don't think it was inevitable that it was going to come out (though the financial constraints on the album's release were considerable). Buying the album, hearing it performed live (with some of Axl's best vocals of the past twenty years), meeting Axl a couple of times, seeing Axl, Slash and Duff share a stage again. It's not been a bad 12 years for this GNR fan. It could have and should have been so much more. But if you told me back in 2007 that what I experienced in the last twelve years was going to happen I would have taken it with a smile on my face. I would be curious to hear about your interactions with Axl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Still love the album and I frequently play it from top to bottom! I don't love every song, but there's at least 10 great songs on there! I cannot believe that it's 2020 and there's not even a remote chance of a follow up for at least another year (if we're lucky). I was listening to a Wolfgang Van Halen interview with Trunk, Trunk asked why there was very little output since 1995s Balance. Wolf said that Eddie had gotten older and his priorities and desire to make music had changed, he said that Eddie still loved to play and record stuff but it just wasn't top of his list of prioritise to release and tour it. I heard this and thought "Axl". Maybe it's not the case for Axl? but it certainly seems like the answer to why it's been 12 years since his last album. No other explanation makes sense to me. I really hate whats happened to this band, coulda shoulda woulda!🥺 but!! if CD is the final album that Axl ever releases, he went out with a bang! The Wolfgang interview is good, check it out! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedYourIllusion Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 8 hours ago, RussTCB said: My favorite GN'R album. Such a bummer that nothing else has been released since but I'm very happy to have finally been able to buy Chinese Democracy I've grown to more than appreciate the record, I've had this theory--especially after the village sessions leaked--that if Axl released CD as a solo record, and dropped the GN'R name for it, he would've had more control and a green light from the label. I'm not one of those people that thinks it's dumb for a band to continue in that manner (with only a sole original member) but I just think such high expectations don't mix well with wanting to create such an experimental new sound for a band Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydney Fan Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, UsedYourIllusion said: I've grown to more than appreciate the record, I've had this theory--especially after the village sessions leaked--that if Axl released CD as a solo record, and dropped the GN'R name for it, he would've had more control and a green light from the label. I'm not one of those people that thinks it's dumb for a band to continue in that manner (with only a sole original member) but I just think such high expectations don't mix well with wanting to create such an experimental new sound for a band I completely agree with all of this. I think he would have been given the promotional dollar and support like snakepit was. Geffen also funded and financially supported the Snakepit tour and covered all promotion. The release of the album was to little to late. My view, The material that was on the final copy, fails in comparison to how well some of the material that axl handed to the record company in 98/99. CD sounds to layered compared to the 99 material. The 99 material sounds more organic. If fans prefer the 0 8 material, more power to them. I understand the album was the first GNR record they heard, so theres alot of love for that record. Edited November 24, 2020 by Sydney Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Happy birthday to the album that turned me into a hardcore GN'R fan. Crazy to think the followup has not yet been released, which was presumably ready by the time CD came out, if not earlier as indicated by the Axl Rose interview on the Eddie Trunk radio show in 2006 where he said about 2.5 albums worth of material was done. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kever20 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Sweersa said: Happy birthday to the album that turned me into a hardcore GN'R fan. Crazy to think the followup has not yet been released, which was presumably ready by the time CD came out, if not earlier as indicated by the Axl Rose interview on the Eddie Trunk radio show in 2006 where he said about 2.5 albums worth of material was done. 12 years on, still a very underrated album from @gunsnroses . Loved the mystery, intrigue, and the ever-evolving mythology over the years from sessions to the eventual release. Waiting on Round 2! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 It's such an important part of my life. I had so many personal things because of the love I have for this band and this particular album... The worst part of the whole saga is the wasted potential. It could've been so much more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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