bucketfoot Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 2 hours ago, SoulMonster said: 8 hours ago, Len Cnut said: There’s no way Bestie belongs there. He’s a footballing icon but like, you judge these things on merit right, achievement and that? Bestie don’t cut it. Bestie deserves to be in there for his heroic boozing, skirt chasing, Miss World shagging, off the field exploits alone. It's an achievement he could ever be bothered to play a match! Turned football into rock n' roll. He's in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Len Cnut said: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news/diego-maradona-peter-shilton-hand-of-god-b1762133.html Thats it Shilts, forgive and forget Listen, my allegiances lie with England and always will but, is it just me, did anyone else see this or did I hallucinate it but the goal right after the hand of God entailed ol' Diego pissing all over the entire England defence and putting it in the back of the net, was that not the case? I think it was, wasn't it? So who cares about the hand of fuckin' God? 'changed the complexion of the game' no doubt will be the reply. Lineker was at it also on twitter with hand of god references. A gulf separates Shilton and Lineker politically but they're bonded in never quite getting over that match. Also, stuff about Maradona ''being troubled''. Maradona seemed to utterly enjoy (and rather manage) his decadent lifestyle, and loved being Maradona. He loved the coke, booze, food, women and generally being a mad little bastard post-football. (for us watching world cups at home, the corporate box with Diego and his entourage was frequently more entertaining viewing than the football game!). He continued with this lifestyle until the end. It wasn't as if he was Gazza, turning up at Tescos in the morning for a six pack with his todger on show. Can nobody be a reprobate anymore without being deemed, ''troubled''? Yes, Maradona probably shaved a few years off, yet Maradona packed more life in one minute than any of our sad lingering lives. PS Downloading that Maradona documentary. Edited November 26, 2020 by DieselDaisy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibson87 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Fucks sake, I thought this said Madonna 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 maradona - ali - freddie - mandela I don't think there are many others who were as universally loved as these people, transcending the races and religions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 1 hour ago, bucketfoot said: Bestie deserves to be in there for his heroic boozing, skirt chasing, Miss World shagging, off the field exploits alone. It's an achievement he could ever be bothered to play a match! Turned football into rock n' roll. He's in. See therein lies exactly why I love Bestie (and btw I despite Man Utd and 99.9% of the players who played for em, it takea a monumental amount of exceptional circumstances for me to love a United player and I love Bestie) but football-wise? I love him like I love Oliver Reed (who was a champion actor btw) or...I dunno Peter O Toole or Richard Harris but was Bestie a great, objectively speaking? Difficult to argue. As I say, I love Bestie for what he was, an icon of the 60s, a bit of a lad, a champion drinker and a champion shagger...but if the latter two made you a great footballer then I have uncles worthy of mention alongside Pele and MaradoNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 1 hour ago, DieselDaisy said: Lineker was at it also on twitter with hand of god references. A gulf separates Shilton and Lineker politically but they're bonded in never quite getting over that match. Also, stuff about Maradona ''being troubled''. Maradona seemed to utterly enjoy (and rather manage) his decadent lifestyle, and loved being Maradona. He loved the coke, booze, food, women and generally being a mad little bastard post-football. (for us watching world cups at home, the corporate box with Diego and his entourage was frequently more entertaining viewing than the football game!). He continued with this lifestyle until the end. It wasn't as if he was Gazza, turning up at Tescos in the morning for a six pack with his todger on show. Can nobody be a reprobate anymore without being deemed, ''troubled''? Yes, Maradona probably shaved a few years off, yet Maradona packed more life in one minute than any of our sad lingering lives. PS Downloading that Maradona documentary. I fuckin’ told you to watch that when it came out, you indolent bastard (fair play, you might’ve been doing umpteen more productive things). I agree with you though, the man loved his life, like Ollie Reed before him, I hate these mournful obituaries, Stephen Fry actually laid into the news reports that claim Peter Cook lived some kind of miserable life just cuz he loved getting pissed, like its all about misery and despair and that. Its bollocks, liking a drink don’t mean to say you’re some kinda crackhead round the back of The Coach and Horses dishing out blowies for a capful of Grouse a turn. 49 minutes ago, action said: maradona - ali - freddie - mandela I don't think there are many others who were as universally loved as these people, transcending the races and religions. Fuck offfffffffff, how is Freddie in that league, fuck right off 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketfoot Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 24 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: See therein lies exactly why I love Bestie (and btw I despite Man Utd and 99.9% of the players who played for em, it takea a monumental amount of exceptional circumstances for me to love a United player and I love Bestie) but football-wise? I love him like I love Oliver Reed (who was a champion actor btw) or...I dunno Peter O Toole or Richard Harris but was Bestie a great, objectively speaking? Difficult to argue. As I say, I love Bestie for what he was, an icon of the 60s, a bit of a lad, a champion drinker and a champion shagger...but if the latter two made you a great footballer then I have uncles worthy of mention alongside Pele and MaradoNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNa Oh, some of the old footage of Bestie is absolutely fantastic, he definitely was as good as anyone ability wise, a footballing genius apart from the sideshow of his off field activities. The fact he was from Northern Ireland basically hampered him from showcasing it at a World Cup. I definitely think there's a bit of me looking at it through generational tinted glasses, though, I mean, a lot of the kids nowadays would have Messi and Ronaldo etc. above any of the greats from the past but to me, Ronaldo, for instance, for all his record breaking stats and whatever, just isn't very pleasing to watch. It's almost like he's too athletic, like he should be in track and field flying over hurdles or something? Maradona, Best, Cruyff, Zidane and the like just glided over the pitch, made it look effortless, they were like artists and it was beautiful to watch. Football in general has lost a lot of the magic it once had for me but I feel that way about a lot of things nowadays, haha! Probably just the old fart in me coming to the fore. It's also like trying to compare boxers from different eras, you can't really do it but it's fun to nonetheless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 59 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: I fuckin’ told you to watch that when it came out, you indolent bastard (fair play, you might’ve been doing umpteen more productive things). I agree with you though, the man loved his life, like Ollie Reed before him, I hate these mournful obituaries, Stephen Fry actually laid into the news reports that claim Peter Cook lived some kind of miserable life just cuz he loved getting pissed, like its all about misery and despair and that. Its bollocks, liking a drink don’t mean to say you’re some kinda crackhead round the back of The Coach and Horses dishing out blowies for a capful of Grouse a turn. Fuck offfffffffff, how is Freddie in that league, fuck right off Action's favourite album is the soundtrack to Top Gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Len Cnut said: Fuck offfffffffff, how is Freddie in that league, fuck right off only artist that managed to sell out wembley while dead so people had to watch all those other wankers singing his songs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 17 minutes ago, DieselDaisy said: Action's favourite album is the soundtrack to Top Gun. every song on that trumps anything on appetite tom cruise is such a great singer. all those different styles he tried on that album "gonna take it right into the danger zone" so badass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 28 minutes ago, action said: only artist that managed to sell out wembley while dead so people had to watch all those other wankers singing his songs Selling out Wembley does not make you world reknowned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketfoot Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 28 minutes ago, action said: "gonna take it right into the danger zone" A suitable gay anthem for Maverick and Goose, that was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 58 minutes ago, bucketfoot said: Oh, some of the old footage of Bestie is absolutely fantastic, he definitely was as good as anyone ability wise, a footballing genius apart from the sideshow of his off field activities. The fact he was from Northern Ireland basically hampered him from showcasing it at a World Cup. I definitely think there's a bit of me looking at it through generational tinted glasses, though, I mean, a lot of the kids nowadays would have Messi and Ronaldo etc. above any of the greats from the past but to me, Ronaldo, for instance, for all his record breaking stats and whatever, just isn't very pleasing to watch. It's almost like he's too athletic, like he should be in track and field flying over hurdles or something? Maradona, Best, Cruyff, Zidane and the like just glided over the pitch, made it look effortless, they were like artists and it was beautiful to watch. Football in general has lost a lot of the magic it once had for me but I feel that way about a lot of things nowadays, haha! Probably just the old fart in me coming to the fore. It's also like trying to compare boxers from different eras, you can't really do it but it's fun to nonetheless. You know what, right after I made my post i felt bad because i felt like I wrote of Besties footballing skills, I mentiones the drink I said ‘icon’ but I totally ignored the footballing prowess, of which he had a lot and he was just a midgety little Irishman with skinny legs, the man was a prodigy for sure, believe me, I’ve seen every goal, I just meant like, all told, if we were to be clinical, is he a Ronaldo (the slaphead)? Or a Maradona? Unfortunatly not. He’s the worlds greatest couldabeen. What he was though was the closest we ever came to great...and earlier than everyone else, the first superstar of football...and boldly individualistic at it...that alone makes him a legend. Ans remember, this is coming from an Arsenal supporter 32 minutes ago, action said: every song on that trumps anything on appetite I love you action, you’re one of my favourite posters but really, seriously...shoot yourself. For the good of mankind, do it (don’t actually!) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 2 hours ago, DieselDaisy said: Action's favourite album is the soundtrack to Top Gun. Just about the only thing he's ever been correct about in his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 9 hours ago, Len Cnut said: I love you action, you’re one of my favourite posters but really, seriously...shoot yourself. For the good of mankind, do it (don’t actually!) I'll be preaching top gun till y'all converted too. my neighbours already are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 4 hours ago, action said: I'll be preaching top gun till y'all converted too. my neighbours already are! Y'know what, I've actually never seen it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 11 minutes ago, Len Cnut said: Y'know what, I've actually never seen it. to be honest with you, the movie kinda sucks, but the soundtrack is all killer no filler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 17 hours ago, Len Cnut said: I fuckin’ told you to watch that when it came out, you indolent bastard (fair play, you might’ve been doing umpteen more productive things). It is very good. It almost puts you in his shoes through the footage, the madness of being Maradona in Napoli, arriving to this media circus and becoming a messiah figure for the Neapolitans etc etc. Things to emerge are - how he changed, his speech and even facial features, once cocaine had taken a hold. He was reasonably well spoken young man hitherto. - Far be it from allowing the decadence to destroy his career (obviously this happened at the very end of his career, a period not covered in this documentary) Maradona went to ridiculous lengths to juggle both. So he'd spend the best part of three-four days detoxing for the Sunday match. And for the 1990 world cup he relinquished the excesses completely. He actually, to a degree, managed both lifestyles. To a degree. - Winning that first Scudetto, 1986-7, was considered the proudest moment of his career, not the 1986 World Cup. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Someone saw the Maradona video of his 60 birthday? Is absolutely heartbreking, he move same as zombie. Hardly can move his lips, need help to walk, his body is rigid, without expression in his look. It was bit before of he death, 0ctober 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dean Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) You guys see the leaked images of the folks that worked in the funeral parkour taking selfies with Maradona in his coffin? Boca Juniors’ ultras got hold of them and all three are dead. Edited November 28, 2020 by Dean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spunko12345 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 (edited) On 11/26/2020 at 6:13 PM, DieselDaisy said: Lineker was at it also on twitter with hand of god references. A gulf separates Shilton and Lineker politically but they're bonded in never quite getting over that match. Also, stuff about Maradona ''being troubled''. Maradona seemed to utterly enjoy (and rather manage) his decadent lifestyle, and loved being Maradona. He loved the coke, booze, food, women and generally being a mad little bastard post-football. (for us watching world cups at home, the corporate box with Diego and his entourage was frequently more entertaining viewing than the football game!). He continued with this lifestyle until the end. It wasn't as if he was Gazza, turning up at Tescos in the morning for a six pack with his todger on show. Can nobody be a reprobate anymore without being deemed, ''troubled''? Yes, Maradona probably shaved a few years off, yet Maradona packed more life in one minute than any of our sad lingering lives. PS Downloading that Maradona documentary. Well said. If I was offered 60 years of being the greatest footballer, shagging, snorting, hanging out with naples mafiosa and having people constantly tell me what a god among men i think i could live with that. He did ok 😄. Throw in the way he took the absolute piss out of England in that world cup and it doesn't get any better than that. There are people in their 70s who still get riled about It. He just used to smirk about it when asked by an indignant BBC reporter who expected him to be remorsful and that was the perfect response. He did it and he was fucking proud of it. In apologetic. In many ways the Hand Of God was the ultimate troll 😄 Edited November 28, 2020 by spunko12345 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Many idiots trolls in social media call Maradona: " Maradroga"= " Maradrugs"..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnrcrazyfan Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 2:25 amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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