Axl's future singing capability

[tbaugerud]

Discuss!!!

[MildlyArtistic]

None of the above. Rework the setlist to feature songs that Axl can sound good singing, maybe actually releases new music so Axl has stuff to sing with his current range, and rework some existing songs for his current voice. And while they're at it, tell Axl there's no shame in tuning down.

[allwaystired]

1 hour ago, MildlyArtistic said:

None of the above. Rework the setlist to feature songs that Axl can sound good singing, maybe actually releases new music so Axl has stuff to sing with his current range, and rework some existing songs for his current voice. And while they're at it, tell Axl there's no shame in tuning down.

I agree....but I also think way, way less shows is the way forward. No way can his voice hold up for the level of touring they attempt- no one's could. It's just too much. 

Way way less touring would mean his voice wouldn't take the battering it has done over the past few years, and also that he doesn't need to 'save' it every night for fear it might not last the whole marathon tour. Less is more. 

[Sausagebrain]

Or... tell Axl to run around less.

[LA_0013]

1 hour ago, MildlyArtistic said:

None of the above. Rework the setlist to feature songs that Axl can sound good singing, maybe actually releases new music so Axl has stuff to sing with his current range, and rework some existing songs for his current voice. And while they're at it, tell Axl there's no shame in tuning down.

This

[Lies They Tell]

2 hours ago, MildlyArtistic said:

None of the above. Rework the setlist to feature songs that Axl can sound good singing, maybe actually releases new music so Axl has stuff to sing with his current range, and rework some existing songs for his current voice. And while they're at it, tell Axl there's no shame in tuning down.

I mostly agree, but honestly Axl tends to sound the best when he screams, so tuning down is not always the best solution. Nice Boys is a great example of this. He always sounds good on it when they play it fast and he can scream every word. But when they play it slower, Axl can't scream it from start to finish. He can't drag his screaming voice long enough when they play it slower, so he's forced to use his singing voice and then he automatically sounds worse.

Edited December 3, 2020 by Lies They Tell

[adamsapple]

I have another option for Axl: Workout daily, eat healthy, get enough sleep, practise singing and when down rather do the right weed strain instead of booze or anti-depressants = problem solved, greatest singer ever back at 100% in no time. Well maybe it might take up to six weeks and some discipline but ya catch my drift.

Only thing left to do is kick the click drums and let the rhythm section follow the lead instruments instead of the lead instruments chasing the drums. It's GNR - I want to hear Axl Rose. Frank Ferrer is just a bonus.

Also on stage Axl doesnt have to move all the time anymore, I'd rather have him sing good than walking up and down the stage for three hours.

 

[rocknroll41]

Sitting in one spot the whole time would help, but really, what they should do is tune all the songs down to D.

[Gordon Comstock]

There's no reason other than stubbornness for the quality of later NITL shows. The guy could be singing Bad Obsession, Down On The Farm, You Ain't The First, Pretty Tied Up and others every night while still sounding like Axl Rose. He could do the Estranged intro in his speaking voice instead of that stupid fucking "whispering grandma" thing he does. The band could be playing relatively great 2~ hour shows. But he has no business singing Better or Rocket Queen or whatever every night just so the band can say they "play a 3+ hour show."

[rocknroll41]

Yeah a shorter setlist, d-tuning, less running around, and a focus on lower-register songs (aside from the AFD big 3, of course) would make the newer shows A LOT better. Axl needs to accept that he’s not in his 20s anymore (imo, at least).

Edited December 3, 2020 by rocknroll41

[DTJ80]

4 hours ago, MildlyArtistic said:

None of the above. Rework the setlist to feature songs that Axl can sound good singing, maybe actually releases new music so Axl has stuff to sing with his current range, and rework some existing songs for his current voice. And while they're at it, tell Axl there's no shame in tuning down.

Ding Ding. This post wins the thread - agree with every word.

[JimiRose]

2 hours ago, Sausagebrain said:

Or... tell Axl to run around less.

He's 58, he barely runs anymore compared to 2010 for example when he was literally sprinting non stop. He needs to keep moving because otherwise  it's a very dull show visually. 

[allwaystired]

Who the hell is voting to promote Melissa to lead singer?! Haha! Own up! 

[vail2004]

this is so typical of this forum and such a BS thread.  shorter setlist, less shows.  period.  he plays for 3 hrs and tours like mad. 

he is still a god of a live vocalist when he is on and better when he is off than people here comparing him to early 90s/2005/acdc etc want to admit

[Gordon Comstock]

1 hour ago, JimiRose said:

He needs to keep moving because otherwise  it's a very dull show visually. 

 

Heeeeeeeeelll no.

He's on stage with other rock icons. He doesn't need to be running [out of breath] to be entertaining. The AC/DC approach would be so much better.

[UsedYourIllusion]

Get Axl in shape and have the polyps and calluses removed from his vocal chords; and get the damn man a singing coach.. 

[soon]

Mel singing more and being mixed louder - Aerosmith style. In addition to better song selection and less running around.

(seriously what’s with running around to begin with!? Lol)

[JimiRose]

1 hour ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

Heeeeeeeeelll no.

He's on stage with other rock icons. He doesn't need to be running [out of breath] to be entertaining. The AC/DC approach would be so much better.

Acdc have angus running up and down constantly, plus the songs styles, the beat of the drum the constant foot tapping, head banging to the riff. Coma, estranged, KOHD whilst some of my fav GnR songs, can be incredibly dull live when the singer cant sing, slash stands still and the band dont seem into it. If he gets out of breath, he should get fitter. Those tickets are expensive! 

[DK6]

He just needs to stop dancing like a goon.

Looks like my mum dancing.

[Gordon Comstock]

4 minutes ago, JimiRose said:

Those tickets are expensive! 

 

Yea, exactly... nobody pays $300 to see Axl run around, they pay to hear him sing, which he can't do anymore while he's running.

If Axl sounds bad and the band sounds bored they should replace those songs (KOHD will never be dropped but they could certainly drop Coma, Estranged, Rocket Queen, Better and others.) Trying to be a "showman" does not make up for a poor vocal performance or make me feel like I got more of my moneys worth.

[Sydney Fan]

5 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said:

There's no reason other than stubbornness for the quality of later NITL shows. The guy could be singing Bad Obsession, Down On The Farm, You Ain't The First, Pretty Tied Up and others every night while still sounding like Axl Rose. He could do the Estranged intro in his speaking voice instead of that stupid fucking "whispering grandma" thing he does. The band could be playing relatively great 2~ hour shows. But he has no business singing Better or Rocket Queen or whatever every night just so the band can say they "play a 3+ hour show."

This. Plus lose a good 30kgs. No reason why he cant.

Edited December 4, 2020 by Sydney Fan

[Sydney Fan]

2 hours ago, vail2004 said:

this is so typical of this forum and such a BS thread.  shorter setlist, less shows.  period.  he plays for 3 hrs and tours like mad. 

he is still a god of a live vocalist when he is on and better when he is off than people here comparing him to early 90s/2005/acdc etc want to admit

If the 18and 19 NITL selects have shown hes more off than on.

He could easily change the setlist to focus on his lower register, because his whispering grandma/mickey mouse helium voice wont cut it.

He sang excellent with ACDC but shit with his own band.

 

[Tom-Ass]

He has lost it.. Voice, stage presence, swagger.. mind

[Tom2112]

Is this a joke? None of those options are worth a vote! 

Get a new singer? Replace Axl Rose? And actually expect people to be interested? I suppose you might consider the guy in Adlers band capable?🤣 Not a fucking hope in hell! I'd take a half assed Axl all day before I go to a gnr concert without him. I know bands have replaced popular singers, but I cannot see it happening OR Axl allowing such a thing considering he owns the name and he's far too proud/Crazy to offer that suggestion.

Let melissa do the vocals? I mean, she can certainly do more in terms of blending and covering note ranges he's struggling with. But she cannot lead gnr and she wouldn't sing the songs in the way people want anyway! She is not a rock vocalist.

Somebody else to do the screams? In what lifetime would that be good to hear someone else intro Welcome to the jungle and then for Axl to sing a bit of the rest if the song? I mean come on🤣 that's just flat out ridiculous.

Oxygen tank in stage wouldn't solve the issue. He us breathless but it's one of the issues and not the main problem.

Playback/mime... no. Anybody who is happy to watch a singer in a rock band go up and fake it on stage deserves a slap! 

Throne chair? Exactly what would that fo exactly? If the can't sing well standing, sitting down is not going to improve anything drastically enough to make and worthwhile difference.

The real option is. Hire a vocal coach, hire a personal trainer. Get himself in shape both physically and vocally. Learn how to sing in an aggressive style without blowing out his voice a few months into a tour. 

2 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

Yea, exactly... nobody pays $300 to see Axl run around, they pay to hear him sing, which he can't do anymore while he's running.

If Axl sounds bad and the band sounds bored they should replace those songs (KOHD will never be dropped but they could certainly drop Coma, Estranged, Rocket Queen, Better and others.) Trying to be a "showman" does not make up for a poor vocal performance or make me feel like I got more of my moneys worth.

100% agree! 3hrs for the sake of 3hrs is not enjoyable! If they were killing it for 3hrs it would be another story entirely!

Edited December 4, 2020 by Tom2112

[2020_Intensions]

LOL I would take current-situation Axl over ANY of those choices every day ...

Edited December 4, 2020 by 2020_Intensions