Live Like a Suicide Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I voted for bringing out the oxygen tank because i thought that was a hilarious option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickodez Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Tune down the songs is the most realistic option, we can't turn back time and Axl can't handle these songs written for a guy in his 20s with a lot of energy and anger and nothing to lose. And more slow, acoustic/semi-acoustic versions of as many songs as possible, would be a show a lot less energetic for GNR, but would be a very different more introspective and ''mature'' approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j axler Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 12 hours ago, MildlyArtistic said: None of the above. Rework the setlist to feature songs that Axl can sound good singing, maybe actually releases new music so Axl has stuff to sing with his current range, and rework some existing songs for his current voice. And while they're at it, tell Axl there's no shame in tuning down. Very intelligent response. 2 hours ago, 2020_Intensions said: LOL I would take current-situation Axl over ANY of those choices every day ... Absolutely. This poll is a sick joke. 7 hours ago, vail2004 said: this is so typical of this forum and such a BS thread. shorter setlist, less shows. period. he plays for 3 hrs and tours like mad. he is still a god of a live vocalist when he is on and better when he is off than people here comparing him to early 90s/2005/acdc etc want to admit EXACTLY 3 hours ago, Tom2112 said: Is this a joke? None of those options are worth a vote! Get a new singer? Replace Axl Rose? And actually expect people to be interested? I suppose you might consider the guy in Adlers band capable?🤣 Not a fucking hope in hell! I'd take a half assed Axl all day before I go to a gnr concert without him. I know bands have replaced popular singers, but I cannot see it happening OR Axl allowing such a thing considering he owns the name and he's far too proud/Crazy to offer that suggestion. Let melissa do the vocals? I mean, she can certainly do more in terms of blending and covering note ranges he's struggling with. But she cannot lead gnr and she wouldn't sing the songs in the way people want anyway! She is not a rock vocalist. Somebody else to do the screams? In what lifetime would that be good to hear someone else intro Welcome to the jungle and then for Axl to sing a bit of the rest if the song? I mean come on🤣 that's just flat out ridiculous. Playback/mime... no. Anybody who is happy to watch a singer in a rock band go up and fake it on stage deserves a slap! " The real option is. Hire a vocal coach, hire a personal trainer. Get himself in shape both physically and vocally. Learn how to sing in an aggressive style without blowing out his voice a few months into a tour. TRUER WORDS NEVER SPOKEN Most everyone has already corrected this mishap, but i'll add mines too. At least come up with a REALISTIC GNR poll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 He is not really running around any more, is he… It’s as already said here: the song choice, plus proper gap (rest) like before 2016 (which is happening right now). He wrecked his vocal cords with the Australians, that’s the problem. In any case – and as usual – it’s difficult with Guns: one of the reasons why they’re so unique and can’t really be compared with other bands is that movement-wise, they set the bar incredibly high when they were young. Look at any 1991/92 footage, with them constantly moving around and the loose cannon of a frontman running while singing. It was absolutely mind-blowing, it’s an inherent part of their legend etc. But how are they supposed to cope with that now that they’re double the age? But certain arrangements undoubtedly need to be done. Exactly as @Gordon Comstock said, there’s no justification in singing stuff like Better, not any more, not like this. It’s just stubbornness and rigidity. Oh and one more thing. This may be a bit of a thin ice for me, but I don’t think that those of you speaking about tuning down have fully realized what you’re asking for. His highs are cool, and he can rasp it. His middles are the problem, of course. But tuning down would render him singing the greatest hits in a low voice, which would be weird. And it would draw attention to the problem so much after the 30 years of it having been sung always the same way that it’s better to just leave it out of the playlist. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
there is no dana only zool Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 In re. "get a different singer all together," i was thinking that Axl has such a distinct voice that nobody could ever do justice however, haha imagine if (God forbid) something ever happened where he had to sit out a tour and who steps up to replace him? Brian Johnson lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodri99 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 None of this. Rework shows to let Axl have a better capabilty. Shorter setlist, easier songs, less tour dates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lim666 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 And what would we get with shorter shows? Shorter shows with Mickey!! Not really a win situation for us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 They need to change something, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 48 minutes ago, Lim666 said: And what would we get with shorter shows? Shorter shows with Mickey!! Not really a win situation for us. Less songs, i.e. a bit more power for Axl; skipping of songs that just plain sound bad these days (Better, RQ… hell, even YCBM), making it a better show in general, and in combination with enhanced alternation of the playlist – a fresh breeze into the staleness, that’s what we would get. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaolin Punk Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 None of the options fitted what I'd make him do if i had the final say..... Make him finally get properly fit and healthy, like a long-distance runner type healthy, with stamina.... and force that weak bitch to do some actual singing practice - you can tell he doesn't sing between tours. You've got one job, Axl.... just do it.... remove that gluttonous lifestyle and finally kick some actual ass again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 2021 isn't so far away from 2016 where I would assume if he really wanted to, getting back into 2016 territory would be impossible - but he hasn't since so idk what that says lol. In the future though definitely a combo of tuning down the songs he would absolutely need to tune down, and modifying the melodies of those kept in the original keys - along the lines of Robert Plant when he did the Zeppelin show in 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, WhazUp said: 2021 isn't so far away from 2016 This is what we were saying in 2011 about 2010 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 12 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said: Yea, exactly... nobody pays $300 to see Axl run around, they pay to hear him sing, which he can't do anymore while he's running. If Axl sounds bad and the band sounds bored they should replace those songs (KOHD will never be dropped but they could certainly drop Coma, Estranged, Rocket Queen, Better and others.) Trying to be a "showman" does not make up for a poor vocal performance or make me feel like I got more of my moneys worth. I think there's an element of people attending a GNR concert that expect Axl to run around like it's 1992 still, and they would be disappointed if he stood still. I don't want him to stand still (already saw that show in Dublin ) but if it's a great voice and more relaxed on stage, instead of running around, anyone with any sense would go for the vocal option! He's more of a light jog these days though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tom2112 said: I think there's an element of people attending a GNR concert that expect Axl to run around like it's 1992 still, and they would be disappointed if he stood still. I don't want him to stand still (already saw that show in Dublin ) but if it's a great voice and more relaxed on stage, instead of running around, anyone with any sense would go for the vocal option! He's more of a light jog these days though! He hasn't been really doing that since 2010, though. And standing completely still would be the other extreme. I think what he's doing now (mostly walking) is quite fine. This affects mainly breath anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nice Boy Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) How difficult would it be for the band to adjust to playing some songs tuned down? Would it just be a case of them saying, "right guys let's do it in D" and off they go, or would it require them to sort of re-learn how to play the songs tuned down, lot of practice and then do it live? Edited December 4, 2020 by Nice Boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Nice Boy said: How difficult would it be for the band to adjust to playing some songs tuned down? Would it just be a case of them saying, "right guys let's do it in D" and off they go, or would it require them to sort of re-learn how to play the songs tuned down, lot of practice and then do it live? Most sensible option, as long as they don't pull the piss and start tuning down to C Changing the key as you age is natural! It would dramatically change the sound of the guitars though which might ruin things a bit! 5 hours ago, jamillos said: He hasn't been really doing that since 2010, though. And standing completely still would be the other extreme. I think what he's doing now (mostly walking) is quite fine. This affects mainly breath anyways. yeah, I don't care what he does outside of singing great! Walk, run! As a musician to watch on stage he is still interesting to watch. He's far more interesting than watching most indie bands or whatever is popular now! Just wish he would sound decent again! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 7 hours ago, Nesret said: I'm really not a fan of reworking songs or setlists to suit a voice that is gone. In my opinion, they should just stop. They had their fun and money with NITL, no need to take it any further, given they don't give a fuck about anything anyway. But that's just my two cents. They do care about something... money! And a distant 2nd is legacy which they think they have to add to... they just don't care quite enough to get into a studio and record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 7 hours ago, Shaolin Punk said: None of the options fitted what I'd make him do if i had the final say..... Make him finally get properly fit and healthy, like a long-distance runner type healthy, with stamina.... and force that weak bitch to do some actual singing practice - you can tell he doesn't sing between tours. You've got one job, Axl.... just do it.... remove that gluttonous lifestyle and finally kick some actual ass again. 100% isn't doing any real practice between tours! He has a home studio, he could easily go in and sing his songs or write new ones to keep his voice in shape! 'tis a shame! but, this is the band and singer we've decided to follow! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
©GnrPersia Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) Axl must RETIRE respectfully and handover the vocal duties to a decent singer through auditions supervised by him. Axl, you'll be always in our hearts and it's time for curtain call. PS: Black Sabbath Dio years wasn't that bad after all. Edited December 4, 2020 by ©GnrPersia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
©GnrPersia Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 9 hours ago, El Guapo said: They need to change something, that's for sure. a bit too late though, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estranged_85 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) Really bad options.. Vocal coach, personal trainer, get in shape, maybe don't have 3+hour shows. re-arrange some of the songs if needed. BTW I would never ever go to a GN'R show without Axl as singer/frontman Edited December 4, 2020 by estranged_85 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 21 hours ago, allwaystired said: Who the hell is voting to promote Melissa to lead singer?! Haha! Own up! Just have her and Axl switch places. Realistically, the line-up hasn't changed in that case - just the division of duties. In Blue, we trust! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLegend Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, ©GnrPersia said: Axl must RETIRE respectfully and handover the vocal duties to a decent singer through auditions supervised by him. Axl, you'll be always in our hearts and it's time for curtain call. PS: Black Sabbath Dio years wasn't that bad after all. Rihanna to replace Axl Roger Waters to replace Duff Buckethead to replace Slash Bryan May to replace Fortus Dave Grohl to replace Frank Trent Reznor to replace Dizzy Thom Yorke to replace Melissa Replace all AFD songs on the setlist with UYI deep cuts and drop the Who covers for Queen covers. It's really the only solution when you think about it. Edited December 4, 2020 by AtariLegend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soon Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, ©GnrPersia said: Axl must RETIRE respectfully and handover the vocal duties to a decent singer through auditions supervised by him. Axl, you'll be always in our hearts and it's time for curtain call. PS: Black Sabbath Dio years wasn't that bad after all. What if Axl quit Guns and started a band with Traci Guns. What would they call it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLegend Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, soon said: What if Axl quit Guns and started a band with Traci Guns. What would they call it? Bill Ulrich. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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