Dazey Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 minute ago, SoulMonster said: There too much tension in both parties now, I think. Anyway, I meant that the fallout from the GOP splitting will likely be the Dems doing it, too. It wouldn't be the rational thing to do, as you point out, but if the tension increases between the "radical left" and the moderates, then I don't see how they can co-exist in one party. I think that the "radical left" thing is a bit overblown. I just don't think that there are enough on the fringes to make up a credible left split. Trump is unique in that his base is genuinely big and solid enough to cause the GOP a massive headache if he leaves and takes them with him. I'm not sure if it would have as much of an impact on future Senate races however. I'm not sure if you can win a senate seat with a plurality of votes in any states or if you need >50% as in Georgia (maybe @downzy can shed a little light on that one?). If that's the case then there's always the chance that a Democratic candidate could win 49% of the vote against the GOP and Trump Party and then lose if the Trump/GOP voters coalesced in the subsequent runoff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, Dazey said: I think that the "radical left" thing is a bit overblown. I just don't think that there are enough on the fringes to make up a credible left split. Maybe not...should be, though I sense a change is happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: Maybe not...should be, though I sense a change is happening. Sounds worrying. When was the last time you had a prostate exam? Edited January 20, 2021 by Dazey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Padme Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 I'd like to dedicate this song to the former president. It sort of fits I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Dazey said: Facekicker? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 Seriously though, for those who had their hopes up, doesn’t look good for either Snowden, Assange, or tragically, the Tiger King, in terms of getting a pardon. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Dazey said: I'm not sure if you can win a senate seat with a plurality of votes in any states or if you need >50% as in Georgia (maybe @downzy can shed a little light on that one?). That’s a good question. I’m 99 percent sure only Georgia requires 50 percent to avoid a run-off election. I know other states like Main and I believe now Alaska use ranked balloting which could potentially help the electoral chances of a third party candidate. California and I believe Louisiana have open elections/primaries where the top two vote getters win the right to compete in the general regardless of party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Trump just left the WH!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 His speech was very subdued thankfully. No direct or indirect calls for violence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelica Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Has anyone checked in with 31Illusions mom to make sure he’s ok? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Angelica said: Has anyone checked in with 31Illusions mom to make sure he’s ok? Yeah, just heard. It’s made him question everything and no longer believes in God /sarcasm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 hours ago, downzy said: Facekicker? If you listen carefully you can hear him beating his wife in the background. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, downzy said: That’s a good question. I’m 99 percent sure only Georgia requires 50 percent to avoid a run-off election. I know other states like Main and I believe now Alaska use ranked balloting which could potentially help the electoral chances of a third party candidate. California and I believe Louisiana have open elections/primaries where the top two vote getters win the right to compete in the general regardless of party. So if we take Kentucky in the 2020 where McConnell won with 58% to Amy McGrath on 38% and the Libertarian candidate on 4%. If we assume that a Trumper candidate could win 20%(ish) then you conceivably turn Kentucky and many other hardcore red states blue just by splitting the GOP vote. I don't really think he's going to go ahead and do it but this would be huge. 1 hour ago, Angelica said: Has anyone checked in with 31Illusions mom to make sure he’s ok? He's probably made her into a table lamp by now, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 1 hour ago, RussTCB said: His speech was very subdued thankfully. No direct or indirect calls for violence. Amazing that this is now somehow the standard and something to be thankful for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 35 minutes ago, Dazey said: If you listen carefully you can hear him beating his wife in the background. Maybe that’s the real reason he had to hang up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 40 minutes ago, downzy said: Amazing that this is now somehow the standard and something to be thankful for. Couldn't agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downzy Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 As the candidate who promised to drain the swamp, this couldn’t be more predictable: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scream of the Butterfly Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 I'm relieved Joe Exotic didn't make the list of clemency actions. That one really would have pissed me off. Maybe Trump's not so bad after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 It was pretty amazing to watch the first ever female VP sworn in just now. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGeneral Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Congrats Americans, on finally having a good, humble and empathic duo in the White House again. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basic_GnR_Fan Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 51 minutes ago, downzy said: As the candidate who promised to drain the swamp, this couldn’t be more predictable: Promises kept! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) Obituary for a Failed Presidency | The New Yorker EDIT: This is actually a really great article. Read it for a summary of Trump's presidency and legacy. Edited January 20, 2021 by SoulMonster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Glad that stupid fuck is gone. How the Dems can take advantage of their control. 2 years isn't a lot of time to get what they need done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: Glad that stupid fuck is gone. How the Dems can take advantage of their control. 2 years isn't a lot of time to get what they need done Obamacare took less than 2 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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