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On 10/13/2024 at 7:39 PM, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said:

Israel needs to destroy their weapon making machines. Let them do it.

So tired of this election. I hope that Harris wins, but Trump won't let it go. These next few months are going to be HELL.

If Trumps wins, the rich get richer and the world will lose just like all Americans.

I still can't believe he is allowed to run for President. WTF?

Wonder if they'll be riots the other way round if he somehow gets in....

Heart says no, betting markets seem to be backing Trump....😵

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On 10/13/2024 at 5:21 PM, Rindmelon said:

Simultaneously disturbing but enjoyable watch/listen of a conversation between David Pakman and Sean Kelly.

 

Holy shit! 5 minutes in and I'm left thinking, surely this is a SNL skit of a stereotypical (mostly) clueless Trump supporter but nope, it's a real person....

I actually think the whole MAGA movement, is the biggest cult brainwashing maxed out the world will ever see

....it's incredible what he's managed to do to ordinary folks!

If you tell the lie enough, people will learn to believe it...

Just come back from a screening of "The Apprentice"....there was a lot of horrors to chose from for Halloween but I tell you - this was the biggest monstrosity of any of them! Like a making of Frankenstein in motion....how he became what we know now....

Roy Cohn has a lot to answer for! 

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On 10/29/2024 at 8:54 AM, downzy said:

Still mind blowing that a candidate could throw a rally like the one held by Trump at MSG and still be a coin flip away from the Presidency.

You can't have a functioning country where a candidate like Trump reveals himself for who he really is and half the population thinks it's appropriate to make him President.

Whether Trump wins or not, America is still likely fucked.

Yup, we’re fucked. It is incredible what a dipshit reality TV jackass did

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21 hours ago, colonizedmind said:

Wonder if they'll be riots the other way round if he somehow gets in....

Heart says no, betting markets seem to be backing Trump....😵

For one thing, I think it says a lot that trump is winning among the kind of impulsive people who engage in gambling, and also those with enough disposable income to gamble away (cry me a river about inflation while you fill up your 30 gallon F-350 tank).

But actually, it's come out that betting markets have been rigged in Trump's favor by a foreign elite:

Mystery overseas account increases its Trump bids on Polymarket betting site

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/mystery-overseas-account-increases-its-trump-bids-polymarket-betting-site-2024-10-21/

Polymarket Prediction Platform Possibly Manipulated to Favor Trump: Report

https://www.newsweek.com/polymarket-prediction-platform-possibly-manipulated-favor-trump-report-1971589

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The nostradamus of US elections A.Lichtman, who's got every President correct since Regan '84 (Yes Al Gore was right too! 🤪) is predicting Kamala with some confidence (albeit close) he went with Trump in '16 against all the grain. 

Let's see if his record continues despite some very (over) confident MAGA faithful! I think that crowd needs to remember that the US population is dominant woman with over 50% and there's a massive issue at play with the autonomy of their bodies or lack of....I think the understimation of how big a backfire taking that as policy, will be a huge part of the postmortem...

Can't wait till it's all over and we can cosign him to the scrap, except, he's going nowhere, he'll claim it's all fake and run again next time...or maybe even go completely loopy and charge to the White House with an armed malitia of "very fine people" to....well...if I can't take fairly...let's  "Take that! Hey, take that!...I'll take it god damn it!...

On the prediction note. How many US Presidents will we see before a GNR LP drops?  

See ya on the orher side...

 

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/listen-to-the-jeffrey-epstein-tapes-i-was-donald-trumps-closest-friend/

"Explosive tapes recorded by author Michael Wolff show Epstein claiming Trump liked to “f---” his friends’ wives and first slept with Melania on the Lolita Express."

Yikes!

The MAGA "where is the Epstein list?" crowd are in a tough spot.

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Also, in 2016 the first red flag that something was up for Clinton (and Trump) was the J. Ann Selzer poll.  It showed Trump up in Iowa by over 7 points (he would win the state by over 9).  Again in 2020, it showed Trump beating Biden in the state of Iowa by 7 points (Trump won by 8 points).

Three months ago Trump led Biden by 18 points.

Today, Selzer released her final poll for the Des Moines Register and it shows Harris up by 3 points over Trump:

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2024/11/02/iowa-poll-kamala-harris-leads-donald-trump-2024-presidential-race/75354033007/

I'm skeptical that Harris wins Iowa, but if Trump ends up winning Iowa by a point or two, he's in for a rough night.

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This is my prediction for Tuesday.  With the election so close I believe it could go either way.  I do think Harris wins, but I wouldn't be shocked (though I will be disappointed) if Trump somehow pulls it off.

RP9p4

I have Harris winning Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.

I have Trump winning Arizona and Georgia.

If there's a surprise state, it's Iowa, which, if you believe the Selzer poll, might go for Harris.

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VP Harris has to win. She was on SNL last night with Mya Rudolph playing her. this woman has a heart and wants the best for America

Trumps want to be KING. He has a hit list of people he either wants to kill? or deport.  All he does is talk about himself. WE can't elect him President. Even some Republicans aren't voting for. Our free world is scared too.

Trump is unhinged and needs to just retire and go to Florida and let the real politicians who care about the American people and our allies to be President.

Vote BLUE

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A MAGA supporter needs to explain this to me. If tRump wins then the election is fair ?  But if he loses it's rigged? Is it only the Presidential election that's rigged not any other races? I'm honestly asking. 

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3 hours ago, Subtle Signs said:

A MAGA supporter needs to explain this to me. If tRump wins then the election is fair ?  But if he loses it's rigged? Is it only the Presidential election that's rigged not any other races? I'm honestly asking. 

What they believe about the fairness of the election depends entirely on what Trump tells them to believe. The majority of MAGA doesn't stop and critically think about what they're being told.

It's fucking crazy that this race is even close. Hopefully enough of us here in Iowa can turn the state blue for Harris

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55 minutes ago, janrichmond said:

Has any other president or losing candidate ever been known to say that an election was rigged? 

Not to this extent. Hillary has talked about Russian interference back in 2016 but she conceded the day after the election. Trump has never stopped repeating the rigged election lies and has never conceded his loss in 2020 to this day. 

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1 hour ago, Dazey said:

Not to this extent. Hillary has talked about Russian interference back in 2016 but she conceded the day after the election. Trump has never stopped repeating the rigged election lies and has never conceded his loss in 2020 to this day. 

Ok true but with a nuance... remember  she (& others) did start talking "illegitimate" presidency after a couple of years ... following nice read  (informative refs)

https://www.cato.org/commentary/yes-democrats-have-called-some-elections-illegitimate-gop-election-denialism-far-worse

...guys relax sky will still be blue & sun will shine come Wednesday...

Dems and Reps SOME policies are becoming somewhat murky anyways... quite intriguing (compare a couple policies to those from 20-40yrs ago) that Dems are now apparently adopting more conservative policies (economy/protectionnalism, border, war, free speech/censorship, guns  ...) & also other way around Reps with (unions, abortion/although still pro-life but..., war, rebelling against syst (swamp),  ...)  whatever gets U thru (elected) I guess... centered ok (farleft/right bad)

With a 2 party system if U happy vote as is & if not vote the other way 😘(not rocket science but it's never that easy)!!!

 

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1 hour ago, MikeD said:

Ok true but with a nuance... remember  she (& others) did start talking "illegitimate" presidency after a couple of years ... following nice read  (informative refs)

https://www.cato.org/commentary/yes-democrats-have-called-some-elections-illegitimate-gop-election-denialism-far-worse

Right, but in the sense that Trump was assisted by a foreign power.  She never questioned vote tallies or suggested the election itself was rigged.  

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I'll be voting at the polls early tomorrow morning, hoping to get a few of the special stickers children designed in Michigan, they are really cool. I have 3+ friends who voted through the mail who all want the stickers, asking me to see if I can get extras for them since they didn't get any. :P I understand it's significantly more convenient to vote in the mail, but there's something that draws me to do it in-person, though it can be stressful with the waiting etc. It should be a national holiday! Vote, then spend the rest of the day at the bar watching the chaos unfold.

Tomorrow will be very interesting... too close for me to call, of course. If I had to guess (why not, it's fun), I believe Trump is barely going to win. It could easily go the other way! I'm prepared for either candidate winning, and will accept it as so. I have a friend who thinks Trump will win by a landslide... I don't see that happening. He also believes the last election was rigged, he thought Biden was going to be removed from office after they figured out it was rigged. So needless to say, he's not one to listen to when it comes to election predictions. :D 

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Forgot to say, be safe everyone. I expect some unrest, regardless of the outcome. Please try to stay out of trouble! Me personally, I avoid most major cities on a good day, and never been to DC. If Trump wins, I expect some potentially unsafe things happening in the big cities (more than usual). And if Harris wins, remember what happened at the capital! Hopefully, they have a strong security presence this time.

I'll be at my secluded home sippin' a drink and feelin' fine either way. :) 

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On 10/13/2024 at 11:39 AM, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said:

If Trumps wins, the rich get richer and the world will lose just like all Americans.

 

Isn't that what has happened under Biden/Harris over the past 4 years? Devalued dollar, impacting the poor the most, while assets have skyrocketed, making the rich even richer. Skyrocketing inflation and open borders. Filling up migrant EBT cards with thousands of dollars for food and cash withdrawal. Funding proxy wars: Israel and Ukraine. A Harris administration will be Biden on steroids. How anyone could vote for 4 more years of massive illegal immigration and hyper inflation is beyond my comprehension. Trump has flaws, no doubt, but he would be a million times better than Kamala, that is fact. At the very minimum, he will protect our border. 

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And Elon Musk is spreading lies too. This is so out of hand. What has happened to America? I'm ashamed of what is happening in America and how hateful some people have become. So wrong.

3 hours ago, Sweersa said:

Forgot to say, be safe everyone. I expect some unrest, regardless of the outcome. Please try to stay out of trouble! Me personally, I avoid most major cities on a good day, and never been to DC. If Trump wins, I expect some potentially unsafe things happening in the big cities (more than usual). And if Harris wins, remember what happened at the capital! Hopefully, they have a strong security presence this time.

I'll be at my secluded home sippin' a drink and feelin' fine either way. :) 

Just watched CNN and they were speaking to a police chief and said they are ready for any disruptions. How crazy is this?

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19 hours ago, Dazey said:

Not to this extent. Hillary has talked about Russian interference back in 2016 but she conceded the day after the election. Trump has never stopped repeating the rigged election lies and has never conceded his loss in 2020 to this day. 

Technically he has....in a Freudian slip but in his next sentence corrected himself 😆

As he gets okder, it's gonna be Hella funny seeing him forget lies he's told and slip up more and more...

He could just been satisifed with his millions in the bank, his last year's are gonna be running from the law and getting headaches from constant legal agro until he can't fight anymore, which is when he'll flee the country into the open arms of one of his favourite overseas dictators....in exchange for secrets probably! It would be far fetched in almost any other persons scenario, but....

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2 hours ago, DannyVinyard said:

Isn't that what has happened under Biden/Harris over the past 4 years? Devalued dollar, impacting the poor the most, while assets have skyrocketed, making the rich even richer. Skyrocketing inflation and open borders. Filling up migrant EBT cards with thousands of dollars for food and cash withdrawal. Funding proxy wars: Israel and Ukraine. A Harris administration will be Biden on steroids. How anyone could vote for 4 more years of massive illegal immigration and hyper inflation is beyond my comprehension. Trump has flaws, no doubt, but he would be a million times better than Kamala, that is fact. At the very minimum, he will protect our border

Seriously??  At the very least? Do you believe rhetoric equal actual action? Figures show that there was negligible difference in immigration numbers during Trump's Presidency to previous ones...

Just because he shouts about it, he achieved his aim....to get folks like you angry enough to believe he will be the answer! Bullshit...the only thing he promised to do from 2016 that he fully actually achieved was to control a woman's body....great! 👍

In someways it's an unfair fight.... everything she says is under scrutiny and pulled up for inaccuracy, yet he can say literally anything and it seems to never stick to him...."they're eating the cats and the dogs"!  I mean really....even if she was totally incompetent and he got shit done, based on sanity for making the real BIG decisions and the necessary faculties required, he has to be totally disqualified....Can't wait to about 48 hours from now he'll be history...he'll say his usual shit but got all intents and purposes, he'll be done...destined for death by 1000 cuts as he ducks and dives all legal turmoil and lawsuits....

Then a ton of the Trump crazies will slowly start to dump Trump and latch on to something like him, pretending like he never happened....

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