The US Politics/Elections Thread 2.0

[evilfacelessturtle]

On 11/7/2024 at 8:38 PM, bumcheecksmcghee said:

Yep... took him 48 hours, but he still has the sooks on lol... probably been watching kimmel on repeat having a cry along with him, rewind, rinse an repeat. 

 

Evilfacelessturtle Derangement Syndrome, folks.

My little sweeties are just obsessed with me! Glad to know I've gotten under your skin. 

BTW, what would you call an ideology that revels in others pain?

On 11/7/2024 at 9:04 PM, cspalding22 said:

Nope, just wondering where millions of voters went. Just disappeared like a fart in the wind. He got roughly the same # of votes. She got about the same as Obama. But crusty pants was able to get 81 million votes. Nothing gets Dems to the poles like an old white guy I guess, but then again your party has always been about race. Ask Jefferson Davis.

Oh, you mean when the Democrats were the CONSERVATIVE party? I love when righties self-own and expose their ignorance of American History.

How can you call yourself a patriot when you don't even know basic American History?

Biden won so many votes because Trump proved himself incompetent in handling COVID. To suggest that an increase in votes is proof of rigging is laughable. You're only discrediting yourself by making such frivolous arguments.

23 hours ago, Sweersa said:

It should be hard for you to be calling people sore losers after what happened with this election 😂 

She didn’t even win the popular vote. If Kamala won the popular vote, you know the left would be bitching about the electoral college. Wow. Guess they should have kept Biden pepped up for the candidacy. 

How have I been "sore"? Quote me, I'll wait...

Oh wait, you always disappear when I call your bluffs.

The electoral college is anti-democratic and was created as a compromise to the south because they wouldn't allow slaves to vote, obviously.

“There was one difficulty, however, of a serious nature attending an immediate choice by the people. The right of suffrage was much more diffusive in the Northern than the Southern States; and the latter could have no influence in the election on the score of the Negroes. The substitution of electors obviated this difficulty and seemed on the whole to be liable to fewest objections.” - James Madison

Republicans want to simultaneously dismiss accusations that they are a threat to democracy, while also defending the systems that make America less democratic. The hypocrisy is intentional, of course.

I don't think Biden would have fared any better. Only a populist like Sanders would have stood a chance, but incumbent parties have taken a shellacking across the globe this year because of post covid inflation. I think the same thing explains Biden's huge win in 2020; Trump was the incumbent and people were very unhappy about how things were going, so they voted for the other option.

Edited November 9, 2024 by evilfacelessturtle

[evilfacelessturtle]

11 hours ago, cspalding22 said:

They called him Hitler. 

 

... I'm sorry, were you saying something?

[Sweersa]

Someone needs a new hobby or two or three…

[bumcheecksmcghee]

8 hours ago, Sweersa said:

Someone needs a new hobby or two or three…

He needs mental help.

[evilfacelessturtle]

On 11/6/2024 at 2:37 PM, cspalding22 said:

Where did 15 million democrats votes go yesterday?

Reagan won by 54 million votes, but then Bush Sr. only got 39 million.

WhErE DiD 15 MiLLiOn rEpUbLiCaNs vOtEs gO????

Also, it's now down to 10 million, but who needs to wait for the votes to finish counting before they start a conspiracy?

9 hours ago, bumcheecksmcghee said:

He needs mental help.

Insults are the coward's form of concession.

You're what we like to call "All hat, no cattle".

[Dazey]

On 11/8/2024 at 2:04 AM, cspalding22 said:

Nope, just wondering where millions of voters went. Just disappeared like a fart in the wind. He got roughly the same # of votes. She got about the same as Obama. But crusty pants was able to get 81 million votes. Nothing gets Dems to the poles like an old white guy I guess, but then again your party has always been about race. Ask Jefferson Davis.

They haven’t gone anywhere. Roughly the same amount of votes were cast this year as in 2020, they just haven’t all been counted yet. 

One thing I have noticed in the last week or so is that election denial is certainly not the sole preserve of the MAGA lunatics.

There seems to be just as many dribbling fucknuggets on both sides this time around losing their shit over all these supposed missing votes. (not necessarily referring to you here 😂) 

“Derp, we’re missing 15 million votes because I saw a graph from the day after the elections and the numbers weren’t the same as 2020.”

Seems they don’t know what counting is. 😂

[Illusion1987]

Anyone who didn't see Trump winning in a landslide,  was not paying attention. 

And this coming from a Biden voter and two time Obama voter.

[dontdamnmeuyi2015]

I wonder if any of Trump's friends had a hand in this election.

If he's still alive in 2024, bet he won't leave the WH easily 

Don't trust him nor do I trust the people who will be in his cabinet. If the Republicans win the House too, Democrats won't have any say in government. Still think the middle class won't benefit from anything Trump does. He is a liar.

The world will suffer too. First up will be Ukraine.

[Dazey]

1 hour ago, Illusion1987 said:

Anyone who didn't see Trump winning in a landslide,  was not paying attention. 

And this coming from a Biden voter and two time Obama voter.

I thought he'd win but I was far from certain. The thing that's really pissed me off is people trying to deny he won. It was a landslide, it wasn't even close and any Democrats who try to kid themselves over that and claim the election was stolen from Harris need to shut the fuck up because they look like the MAGA idiots from 2020. There are a lot of lessons to be learned from this but "Trump cheated" isn't one of them.

[janrichmond]

I keep seeing clips of women shaving their hair off, I don't get why Trump winning is making them do this. Is there another reason? A skinhead revival? 

 

[Dazey]

2 minutes ago, janrichmond said:

I keep seeing clips of women shaving their hair off, I don't get why Trump winning is making them do this. Is there another reason? A skinhead revival? 

It's because they're fucking idiots. That's the simplest explanation I can come up with.

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, janrichmond said:

I keep seeing clips of women shaving their hair off, I don't get why Trump winning is making them do this. Is there another reason? A skinhead revival? 

 

Maybe they went as Britney for Halloween? 

[bumcheecksmcghee]

1 hour ago, janrichmond said:

I keep seeing clips of women shaving their hair off, I don't get why Trump winning is making them do this. Is there another reason? A skinhead revival? 

 

Someone take the hair clippers away from the nutcase in the forum lol

Shavedhairlessturtle

[cspalding22]

8 hours ago, Dazey said:

They haven’t gone anywhere. Roughly the same amount of votes were cast this year as in 2020, they just haven’t all been counted yet. 

One thing I have noticed in the last week or so is that election denial is certainly not the sole preserve of the MAGA lunatics.

There seems to be just as many dribbling fucknuggets on both sides this time around losing their shit over all these supposed missing votes. (not necessarily referring to you here 😂) 

“Derp, we’re missing 15 million votes because I saw a graph from the day after the elections and the numbers weren’t the same as 2020.”

Seems they don’t know what counting is. 😂

Wrong. Trump got same number in 2020, 74 million. The dingbat got 71 million. The current resident of the white house miraculously got 81 million votes in 2020. That's 10 million less votes cast in 2024, where did they go? Please don't tell me 10 million people stayed home, that's absurd. Those were fraudulent votes in 2020.

[evilfacelessturtle]

6 hours ago, Illusion1987 said:

Anyone who didn't see Trump winning in a landslide,  was not paying attention. 

And this coming from a Biden voter and two time Obama voter.

Based on what?

4 hours ago, Dazey said:

I thought he'd win but I was far from certain. The thing that's really pissed me off is people trying to deny he won. It was a landslide, it wasn't even close and any Democrats who try to kid themselves over that and claim the election was stolen from Harris need to shut the fuck up because they look like the MAGA idiots from 2020. There are a lot of lessons to be learned from this but "Trump cheated" isn't one of them.

I haven't seen that. All the Dem politicians and media figures aren't denying it. I'm sure you can always find a few randos on Twitter though.

Edited November 11, 2024 by evilfacelessturtle

[evilfacelessturtle]

 

2 hours ago, bumcheecksmcghee said:

Someone take the hair clippers away from the nutcase in the forum lol

Shavedhairlessturtle

 

Damn, I got deep under your skin. EDS...

1 hour ago, cspalding22 said:

Wrong. Trump got same number in 2020, 74 million. The dingbat got 71 million. The current resident of the white house miraculously got 81 million votes in 2020. That's 10 million less votes cast in 2024, where did they go? Please don't tell me 10 million people stayed home, that's absurd. Those were fraudulent votes in 2020.

Where did 15 million Republican votes go after Reagan? Why can't you answer that? Those were fraudulent votes. That's all the proof you need, by your logic. 

[matt1313]

On 11/8/2024 at 6:48 PM, Sausagebrain said:

I reckon this phase of US politics, where personal attacks became the rule, started in the late eighties with the GOP attacking Michael Dukakis as a sissy elitist Liberal who was too soft on crime. And then there were the vicious attacks on the Clintons throughout the nineties.

 

(But to be fair, the Clintons are hardly as pure as the driven snow. And the Democrats have slung their share of mud at the GOP as well,). 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/3201957/reductio-ad-hitlerum-60-years-democrats-falsely-calling-republican-nominee-fascist/

On 11/8/2024 at 10:30 PM, evilfacelessturtle said:

 

... I'm sorry, were you saying something?

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/3201957/reductio-ad-hitlerum-60-years-democrats-falsely-calling-republican-nominee-fascist/

 

[Dazey]

6 hours ago, cspalding22 said:

Wrong. Trump got same number in 2020, 74 million. The dingbat got 71 million. The current resident of the white house miraculously got 81 million votes in 2020. That's 10 million less votes cast in 2024, where did they go? Please don't tell me 10 million people stayed home, that's absurd. Those were fraudulent votes in 2020.

Way to prove my point Einstein. As I said, they haven’t finished counting yet. 

Updated estimates show about 1.3 million fewer overall votes than 2020 so nowhere near the 10 million you’re dribbling about. 

Of the remaining votes Trump is estimated to get about 4.3 million votes more than last time and Harris is expected to fall short of Biden’s total by about 4.8 million. 

So basically slightly fewer people voted and a lot of 2020 Biden voters switched to Trump. This isn’t rocket science. 
 

[Illusion1987]

3 hours ago, evilfacelessturtle said:

Based on what?

I haven't seen that. All the Dem politicians and media figures aren't denying it. I'm sure you can always find a few randos on Twitter though.

Based on the common sense fact that the parties were shifting in front of our eyes.

The new Republican party, wirh it's  strong team, was becoming THE party of the working and middle class and their interests. 

The Democrats, on the other hand, were becoming the party of coastal globalist elites using the working class + immigrants for their financial gain and doing so by dangling extreme social issues in front  of them like candy.

They really had no legitimate policies, or organization,  which is the reason they had to resort to delusional name calling and references to Nazi Germany......nobody was buying it!

So, the potential Trump voters held onto their core while pulling disenfranchised voters from the other side, like me.

You'd be surprised how many women i talked to that thought Kamala was bat crazy and many of those women were Hispanic so their strong Trump.support was not a surprise.

Ironic because, in the days following the election,  Kamala's supporters are transforming into a band of skin heads which is what they were trying to accuse the.other side of becoming.

 

 

 

Edited November 11, 2024 by Illusion1987

[bumcheecksmcghee]

59 minutes ago, Illusion1987 said:

Based on the common sense fact that the parties were shifting in front of our eyes.

The new Republican party, wirh it's  strong team, was becoming THE party of the working and middle class and their interests. 

The Democrats, on the other hand, were becoming the party of coastal globalist elites using the working class + immigrants for their financial gain and doing so by dangling extreme social issues in front  of them like candy.

They really had no legitimate policies, or organization,  which is the reason they had to resort to delusional name calling and references to Nazi Germany......nobody was buying it!

So, the potential Trump voters held onto their core while pulling disenfranchised voters from the other side, like me.

You'd be surprised how many women i talked to that thought Kamala was bat crazy and many of those women were Hispanic so their strong Trump.support was not a surprise.

Ironic because, in the days following the election,  Kamala's supporters are transforming into a band of skin heads which is what they were trying to accuse the.other side of becoming.

 

 

 

Shavedlessturtle can't comprehend things lately, he is still cranky about the election, talking sense to him/her/they at the moment isn't possible. 

TDS to the Max.... hasn't left the basement an lacking fresh air does that.

He just keeps posting an replying and it's so good lol 

🤣🎣

 

[dontdamnmeuyi2015]

All the nighttime talk show hosts are pointing out how bad it will be for 4 years and possibly more since I doubt Trump will give up theWH in four years. You never know.

Why didn't Americans see this?

I know prices are high, but Trump's policies will shake up Washington DC and most of our lives except for his rich friends.

The free world will feel it too. Putin is happy because he will get some of Ukraine and eventually move on to the other countries that were part of the USSR and Trump won't stop him.

the only reason Trump will go after Iran is because they want him dead.

All I know is nothing will change for the middle class at all. Trump's lies made people believe he's for the every day person and he's not.

[Sweersa]

15 minutes ago, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said:

All the nighttime talk show hosts are pointing out how bad it will be for 4 years and possibly more since I doubt Trump will give up theWH in four years. You never know.

Why didn't Americans see this?

I know prices are high, but Trump's policies will shake up Washington DC and most of our lives except for his rich friends.

The free world will feel it too. Putin is happy because he will get some of Ukraine and eventually move on to the other countries that were part of the USSR and Trump won't stop him.

the only reason Trump will go after Iran is because they want him dead.

All I know is nothing will change for the middle class at all. Trump's lies made people believe he's for the every day person and he's not.

Trump isn't even president yet and crypto has gone up substantially. I'm middle class, but I suppose you could call me one of "his rich friends" now.  

[evilfacelessturtle]

17 hours ago, matt1313 said:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/3201957/reductio-ad-hitlerum-60-years-democrats-falsely-calling-republican-nominee-fascist/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/3201957/reductio-ad-hitlerum-60-years-democrats-falsely-calling-republican-nominee-fascist/

 

Your article quotes MLK Jr.

Is he a crazy leftist nutjob?

I also like how 90% of the examples are about Nixon, an absolute crook, and then they dribble down to nothing between him and Trump.

How about one of you cowards actually debates me on the 14 tenets of Fascism I listed? Quit pussyfooting around arguing over who is meaner to who with accusations of extremism. This whole thing started with y'all clutching your pearls over being called fascist when you constantly call the left commies. Quit wasting our time with hypocrisy and man up to the damn argument.

[evilfacelessturtle]

17 hours ago, Illusion1987 said:

Based on the common sense fact that the parties were shifting in front of our eyes.

The new Republican party, wirh it's  strong team, was becoming THE party of the working and middle class and their interests. 

The Democrats, on the other hand, were becoming the party of coastal globalist elites using the working class + immigrants for their financial gain and doing so by dangling extreme social issues in front  of them like candy.

They really had no legitimate policies, or organization,  which is the reason they had to resort to delusional name calling and references to Nazi Germany......nobody was buying it!

So, the potential Trump voters held onto their core while pulling disenfranchised voters from the other side, like me.

You'd be surprised how many women i talked to that thought Kamala was bat crazy and many of those women were Hispanic so their strong Trump.support was not a surprise.

Ironic because, in the days following the election,  Kamala's supporters are transforming into a band of skin heads which is what they were trying to accuse the.other side of becoming.

"Based on vibes", that's what I thought.

Anyone who calls their subjective opinions "common sense" can be ignored because they have zero self criticism.

The Biden Administration had the toughest anti-monopoly FTC chair in decades with Lina Kahn. Trump is just as Corporatist as every other Republican and anyone who falls for his paper thin veneer of populism is a fool.

Republicans don't dangle extreme social issues? They never STFU about trans people and wokeness, are you living under a rock?

I'm still waiting for a single one of you cowards to man up and debate me on how Trump doesn't fit the 14 Tenets of Fascism...

Meanwhile, every time you revert back to crying about being called Fascists, I will post yet again the examples of y'all calling the left Communists.

 

You're not running away from this. Every time you pretend the left is unique in calling the right Fascist, I will post this again. The beatings will continue until morale improves.

Edited November 12, 2024 by evilfacelessturtle

[evilfacelessturtle]

15 hours ago, bumcheecksmcghee said:

Shavedlessturtle can't comprehend things lately, he is still cranky about the election, talking sense to him/her/they at the moment isn't possible. 

TDS to the Max.... hasn't left the basement an lacking fresh air does that.

He just keeps posting an replying and it's so good lol 

🤣🎣

 

I don't even have to call and my little dog comes running!  🤣  🤣  🤣

I really triggered you good, huh? You're obsessed with me. Get off my nuts, freak.

5 hours ago, Sweersa said:

Trump isn't even president yet and crypto has gone up substantially. I'm middle class, but I suppose you could call me one of "his rich friends" now.  

Literally proving Trump is a boon to scammers and con artists everywhere.