rumandraisin 176 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I've always been a bit confused about HS being sound checked. Firstly it's the exact same length and portion as the original 'checkmate' leak. Secondly Axl confirmed it was called Jackie Chan in the forum chats so why has it reverted to a name it had almost 20 years ago. Why would it even be considered to be played now, conveniently as it leaked. Do we know the setlist photo is real, and is it possible someone made the clip of them rehearsing it? Since when did Axl rehearse come to think of it. It's just too perfect, stuff leaks and suddenly it's on the set? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gackt 1,931 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Striking while the iron's hot, if I had to take a guess. The leak might have inspired the band to revisit the track. If the song wasn't soundchecked, I'd immediately say it was just the band trolling the community by adding it to the alt setlist. Regarding the name going back to Hard School Skool over Jackie Chan, you'll need to ask Axl that. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
allwaystired 2,654 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 17 minutes ago, rumandraisin said: I've always been a bit confused about HS being sound checked. Firstly it's the exact same length and portion as the original 'checkmate' leak. Secondly Axl confirmed it was called Jackie Chan in the forum chats so why has it reverted to a name it had almost 20 years ago. Why would it even be considered to be played now, conveniently as it leaked. Do we know the setlist photo is real, and is it possible someone made the clip of them rehearsing it? Since when did Axl rehearse come to think of it. It's just too perfect, stuff leaks and suddenly it's on the set? Very good questions. I've thought the same...but dismissed it in my head as being too far fetched as a scam even for some of the deranged lunatics we all know. What makes it seem genuine is that it sounds different to the leak. And Axl does soundcheck occasionally. Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Comstock 5,539 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 24 minutes ago, rumandraisin said: I've always been a bit confused about HS being sound checked. Firstly it's the exact same length and portion as the original 'checkmate' leak. Secondly Axl confirmed it was called Jackie Chan in the forum chats so why has it reverted to a name it had almost 20 years ago. Why would it even be considered to be played now, conveniently as it leaked. Do we know the setlist photo is real, and is it possible someone made the clip of them rehearsing it? Since when did Axl rehearse come to think of it. It's just too perfect, stuff leaks and suddenly it's on the set? When he called it Jackie Chan he also said all titles were working titles and subject to change. And stuff like Better and IRS weren't on the setlists until after they leaked. Axl usually rehearses with the band whenever they add something new... not surprising he'd be at soundcheck when they'd planned to add 3 songs to the set (Hardschool, Think About You, Pretty Tied Up) 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Sweersa 556 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Imagine the currently lineup doing Silkworms or OMG. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Voodoochild 958 Posted January 15 Popular Post Share Posted January 15 It's definitely real. Axl's vocal are clearly representative of how he sounds now. And I'm yet to see someone doing a convincing 2020 shitty Axl cover. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post James Bond 5,165 Posted January 15 Popular Post Share Posted January 15 How to know something is real - Axl sounds like shit. 6 5 Link to post Share on other sites
James Bond 5,165 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Kidding aside, there were several clips from the same soundcheck that were clearly all the current line-up. Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisMaciel 208 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Those clips are still available? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ThePreacher 214 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Oh, I remember how I told my wife that morning how excited I was cause GNR gonna debut new song tonite and listened to that clip over and over again 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Comstock 5,539 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 33 minutes ago, ChrisMaciel said: Those clips are still available? https://streamable.com/q4cr44 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Dean 2,279 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 I hate the thought of leaks forcing Axl's hand, but it was too much of a coincidence for me not to lean that way. Thank you Rick by take care of us. What a glorious period that was. I will never forget hearing Atlas for the first time and how it instantly changed my life...along with everyone else's. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Towelie 3,522 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 3 hours ago, Voodoochild said: It's definitely real. Axl's vocal are clearly representative of how he sounds now. And I'm yet to see someone doing a convincing 2020 shitty Axl cover. It's probably really hard to sound that bad. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
DTV88 352 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 They sound checked it without Axl in Hollywood too and I’m sure they had planned to play it until Axl decided to show up hours late and they cut the entire set short. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
DTV88 352 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 (edited) 4 hours ago, Dean said: I hate the thought of leaks forcing Axl's hand, but it was too much of a coincidence for me not to lean that way. Thank you Rick by take care of us. What a glorious period that was. I will never forget hearing Atlas for the first time and how it instantly changed my life...along with everyone else's. Similar thing happened with CD But yeah, the first time listening to the Atlas, Perhaps and HS leaks, as well as the earlier versions of CD songs, was glorious indeed! Edited January 16 by DTV88 .. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Tom2112 2,350 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 3 hours ago, James Bond said: How to know something is real - Axl sounds like shit. He sounded good on those leaked soundcheck videos, he did sound poor on the actual concert though. Ordinarily of course you would have had a point😋 Link to post Share on other sites
Tom2112 2,350 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 52 minutes ago, Dean said: I hate the thought of leaks forcing Axl's hand, but it was too much of a coincidence for me not to lean that way. Thank you Rick by take care of us. What a glorious period that was. I will never forget hearing Atlas for the first time and how it instantly changed my life...along with everyone else's. Yeah I'm firmly in the camp of when it's ready release it, but some of that material has reached the "ready" mark several times! sometimes you have to force the horse to drink the water😄 If they are intending to lead with Hardschool I REALLY hope they have worked out that stupid all over the place arrangement! I haveveaud that a few times, but it does need to be said! There really isn't room for a meh song on the reunion album, everything needs to be solid or fucking great! Especially the singles, hopefully Caram is happy to say "this song isn't good enough" he should have said that a few times already but what have ya! Link to post Share on other sites
CAFC Nick 361 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Dean said: I hate the thought of leaks forcing Axl's hand, but it was too much of a coincidence for me not to lean that way. Yeah quite sad to think of it this way, but the last time a song was played without being leaked or part of CD was 2001/2... Link to post Share on other sites
axlsalinger 366 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Some people have suggested it could be a track written by the old band, and I think Duff said at one point in the 90s they would have a song on a Jackie Chan soundtrack.. If this was it that would explain why they jokingly referred to it as 'Jackie Chan'. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
megaguns1982 646 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 God I hope they don’t add it to the set. Axl needs a good vocal coach and then maybe add it. Link to post Share on other sites
Chester 524 392 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I was under the impression that it was called Jackie Chan bc it was supposed to be on the sound track to a Jackie Chan movie?? i could be wrong on that. perhaps the name was changed to Hardschool if Jackie Chan trademarked his name.... I mean Axl trade marked his own name, right? Link to post Share on other sites
jafeijo 199 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Do you guys think it might be a bit frustrating for a guitar hero like Slash, having to learn a song from other era to play in his own band? And even so, a 4 chord song? I mean, I really like the song, it's a good rocker and stuff, but it can be a tricky situation. The band is reunited and the first song that comes to mind in terms of releasing something is an old Chinese leak. Axl wants to revisit the chinese era rather than do something fresh. Never thought about it that way, since I was really pumped when the rehearsal video came up. 1 hour ago, Chester 524 said: . I mean Axl trade marked his own name, right? I wonder what that was about... Link to post Share on other sites
jamillos 1,889 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 I don't consider 2 years "suddenly". Also, the soundcheck voice sucks balls. Link to post Share on other sites
SoulMonster 7,759 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 It was probably intended to be included on the soundtrack to a Jackie Chan movie, hence they would refer to it as the "Jackie Chan song". It wouldn't make sense to keep that working title now, which is why it is now called "Hardschool". My 5 cents. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
SoulMonster 7,759 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 From my notes on the Jackie Chan song in 1996: https://www.a-4-d.com/t5018-19-december-1994-october-1996-axl-and-slash-fights-slash-quits#20214 3 Link to post Share on other sites
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