rocknroll41 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) If I absolutely HAD to cut it down... SIDE A 1.You Could Be Mine 2.Perfect Crime 3.Live & Let Die 4.Double Talkin’ Jive SIDE B 5.November Rain 6.Garden of Eden 7.You Ain’t the First 8.Dead Horse SIDE C 9.Civil War 10.Yesterdays 11.Locomotive SIDE D 12.Estranged 13.Don’t Cry (Alt. Lyrics) 14.Coma Some of the other tracks could’ve been b-sides, I guess. Edited March 28, 2021 by rocknroll41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draguns Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 On 3/22/2021 at 12:11 PM, Towelie said: Think you missed the point of my thread. I prefer what we got too, I was just merely asking if a single disc UYI would've been as good as AFD... No offense, but what is the point of this thread? You can't compare the two. Granted, some songs were written before the songs on AFD were written like Don't Cry. Bad Obsession was written before Brownstone. You also need Estranged and Don't Damn Me in there. I like the UYI just as much as AFD. I just don't see the point in this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Mine would be a bit different depending on the day namely 'get in the ring' being swapped for live and let die or bad obsession. But there was a few songs on each album that I easily crossed off the list, still a few that I'd miss but i think this would please most people... even if Coma and locomotive are nowhere to be found😛 if locomotive had a shorter arrangement i'd have put it on the list too, I still like the song but it's guilty of meandering a bit (imo). Coma leaves me in a coma so that's not making the cut😄 Pretty tied up 14 years You could be mine Dead horse November rain Knocking on heavens door Civil war Dust n bones Get in the ring Perfect crime Don't cry The garden Estranged 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, Tom2112 said: Mine would be a bit different depending on the day namely 'get in the ring' being swapped for live and let die or bad obsession. But there was a few songs on each album that I easily crossed off the list, still a few that I'd miss but i think this would please most people... even if Coma and locomotive are nowhere to be found😛 if locomotive had a shorter arrangement i'd have put it on the list too, I still like the song but it's guilty of meandering a bit (imo). Coma leaves me in a coma so that's not making the cut😄 Pretty tied up 14 years You could be mine Dead horse November rain Knocking on heavens door Civil war Dust n bones Get in the ring Perfect crime Don't cry The garden Estranged I gotta say, this list is actually pretty solid, even tho it’s very different from my own list! Just shows how much good material there actually is between both albums! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike Killer Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 You bring up a good point. It should have been a triple album with a disc full of covers. Good call. Honestly, who would ever argue for less GNR material? Lord knows too much output isn't a concern of GNR. At this point, if you don't like a track - skip it or don't click on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 51 minutes ago, Spike Killer said: You bring up a good point. It should have been a triple album with a disc full of covers. Good call. Honestly, who would ever argue for less GNR material? Lord knows too much output isn't a concern of GNR. At this point, if you don't like a track - skip it or don't click on it. But skipping drains the battery. And I don't always have a pencil either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) On 3/24/2021 at 2:36 AM, megaguns1982 said: I like it as it is, but it would have been much cooler to divide it up into 3 albums, and release them 2-3 years apart... add on TSI and you’ve got GNR releases in let’s say 1991 1993 1996 1999, then the 2002 version of CD. It would have been much more impressive as a back catalogue. Isn't it much more impressive to have released only these few records but still being responsible for so many hits and awesome songs? Much more impressive than to just split the releases into more records and a bigger time period without any new real output? What Guns did until '93, and I mean mostly their decision for releasing material, was almost peferct IMO. The problem is how they handled their career since '93 Edited March 28, 2021 by Free Bird 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Oldest Goat said: My reduced and combined UYI tracklist: 1. Estranged 2. Yesterdays 3. Double Talkin' Jive 4. Bad Obsession 5. Dust N' Bones 6. Locomotive 7. Don't Cry(Alt) 8. The Garden 9. Breakdown 10. Civil War 11. Dead Horse 12. Don't Damn Me 13. You Could Be Mine 14. 14 Years 15. Pretty Tied Up 16. Coma 17. Perfect Crime Estranged doesn’t work as an opener, and not all of those fit into one 80-minute disc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 10 hours ago, rocknroll41 said: I gotta say, this list is actually pretty solid, even tho it’s very different from my own list! Just shows how much good material there actually is between both albums! Yeah, I left off dust n bones and few others that i'd argue are highlights. I think if you go through 50 fans list of a master UYI list, You get at least 8 songs that crop up with everybody. I think they could've released 10 undeniable songs and possibly exceeded AFD. I hear the argument about if you don't like a song skip it. And that's true, but missing the point of the exercise. We all like the majority, if not all of UYI, but there are clearly weaker songs that bring down the grade average. Example of one way to get around us only hearing 12-14 songs instead of all the tracks. Release the tracks that were weaker with the singles, gnr at that time could and did do exactly what they wanted the label would have went along. And in that scenario we get all the material, without watering down the master album. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackparker123 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Side A 1. Civil War 2. Right Next Door To Hell 3. Perfect Crime 4. You Could Be Mine Side B 5. Breakdown 6. Dont Cry (Original) 7. Locomotive Side C 8. November Rain 9. Yesterdays 10. Garden Of Eden Side D 11. Don't Damn Me 12. Dead Horse 13. Estranged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fowlerisgod Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 On 3/22/2021 at 8:23 AM, Towelie said: To be honest, I think it would've surpassed it. No tacky cover versions or b-grade material like Back Off Bitch or Garden of Eden. Just straight up killer rocknroll. I had to omit Estranged as you can't have four 8+min epics on one album. 1. Right Next Door To Hell 2. Dust N Bones 3. Civil War 4. Bad Obsession 5. Don't Cry 6. Locomotive 7. Breakdown 8. Double Talkin Jive 9. November Rain 10. The Garden 11. You Could Be Mine 12. Bad Apples 13. Coma Bad Apples should be nowhere near a Use Your Illusion 1 disc album Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 15 minutes ago, fowlerisgod said: Bad Apples should be nowhere near a Use Your Illusion 1 disc album I agree, but I also have a soft spot for that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dissident Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 So I cheat... I opened this slightly further into tracks that didn't make Appetite/Lies Side 1: Right Next Door To hell Dust N Bones Don't Cry [Alt Version] You Could Be Mine Side 2: Civil War November Rain Perfect Crime Side 3: Locomotive Shadow Of Your Love Estranged Side 4: Move To The City [Acoustic] Dead Horse Coma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beto 22 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 1- Dust N' Bones 2- Don't Cry 3- Bad Obssesion 4- Double Talkin' Jive 5- November Rain 6- Bad Apples 7- Dead Horse 8- Civil War 9- 14 Years 10- Yesterdays 11- Knockin' On Heavens Door 12- Pretty Tied Up 13- So Fine 14- Estranged 15- You Could Be Mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-W.A.R- Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) The material is there but the issue is making it a cohesive album. You can cut all the filler and covers, but you're left with an album that is mostly grandiose epics and that would make it a slog to get through. You would have to remove a few of those and put some of the inferior filler stuff back in and that'll hurt it when comparing it to the lean AFD. Could you make a good album? Yes. One that is on par with Appetite? Probably not. However that was never the aim of UYI - Axl wanted a big sprawling album(s). Edited March 29, 2021 by -W.A.R- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester 524 Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 I like UYI as is, but would agree musically it would have been better without the filler. the double album was smart in retrospect due to the fact that the band was falling apart and that they needed a huge pay day to cash in on the first albums success- so a double albums was the way to go. that bring said, double album is definitely NOT the way to go if they ever release new music again. keep it short and sweet, no filler. I was going to say release an LP every 12 months, but this is GNR so that's never gonna happen. music today is like the news- very short cycle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbj_jam Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 Off the top of my head.(not a tracklist) Breakdown Estranged Locomotive Yesterdays Dead Horse Ycbm Civil War Pretty tied up Get in the ring Dont damn me Add two songs and yes on par with afd I Think so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokingarthur Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 The past and the “what if” have no identity. We live in the now. And right now I’m glad that the Illusions are plural…. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowOfTheWave Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Eliminate Bad Apples/Coma/Locomotive, add Estranged/Dead Horse/Don't Damn Me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronartest2004 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Illusions had too many good tracks for it to be just 1 disc, but not enough good tracks for it to be 2 discs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Korean Democracy Posted April 4, 2021 Share Posted April 4, 2021 1. Right Next Door to Hell 2. 14 Years 3. Live and Let Die 4. Civil War 5. Yesterdays 6. Perfect Crime 7. Bad Obsession 8. Don't Cry 9. Pretty Tied Up 10. Locomotive 11. DTJ 12. November Rain 13. Don't Damn Me 14. Estranged 15. You Could Be Mine 16. Dead Horse 17. Coma -Singles: YCBM (B-sides: Dust N' Bones, Back Off Bitch) Don't Cry (B-sides: Don't Cry Alt, You Ain't the First) LALD (B-sides: Bad Apples, Garden of Eden) November Rain (B-sides: Breakdown, The Garden) Civil War (B-sides: Get in the Ring, Shotgun Blues) Yesterdays (B-side: So Fine) Estranged (B-side: a recording of Sorum fucking a dolphin) KOHD was released as a stand-alone single in 1990 My World remained in Axl's vault forever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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