07/08/22 - Munich, DE - Olympiastadion

[MYWIFEMYLIFE]

Hope it doesnt get cancelled, how is the sales?

[vloors]

5 hours ago, Dangom1 said:

Let's hope the damage vocal chords were minor from a throat infection or something that's mild and the DR'S have given Axl the all clear and the tour continues smoothly 🤞💪

Hopefully Dr prescribed using that lower register, more rasp and definately no Mickey.

Serious though must of been only minor sickness if they are going back to touring already 

[Pedrolg]

Maybe with all the drama Axl only had a flu, sore throat or something like that

[GNRmello77]

52 minutes ago, MYWIFEMYLIFE said:

Hope it doesnt get cancelled, how is the sales?

Sold out for like 98% 

[ChristianGNR]

1 hour ago, kingcanyon said:

because our number 1 insider Richard Fortus said that they nearly cancelled both London shows that's why

Not confirmed. There are numerous reports of Axl spitting and/or blowing his nose in previous shows.

Edited July 6, 2022 by ChrisMaciel

[Kosonen]

25 minutes ago, Pedrolg said:

Maybe with all the drama Axl only had a flu, sore throat or something like that

No. High voice is officially gone. 

[El Guapo]

41 minutes ago, Kosonen said:

No. High voice is officially gone. 

It Flu away 

[Tom2112]

5 hours ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

Dublin is the reason his voice got destroyed in the first place. It's either mickey mouse singing or low, I know which I prefer and which one doesn't make people cringe I show GNR live videos to.

I know your point of 'it would be easier for Axl and it would mean that the shows would be of a similar quality each night'. I hear it, I guess some people are happy with the idea of Axl doing this low singing BS, but for me it's either get your voice together or retire. I don't want to see Axl up there half assing it. And yes, Axl singing low and "saving his voice" is the half assing. As for the Tottenham gig that had to be done, he was under pressure to make a decision and it was what was necessary to get him through the show. Any gig after that, he should either have got his voice back in shape or cancelled the remaining dates. People don't want to hear shit mickey sounding vocals but they also definitely don't want to hear him singing the Neil Diamond version of WTTJ and SCOM. You're smoking crack if you think people would be pleased if he just dropped his high range for the majority of the set. It is literally the main thing people think of other than Slash's guitar solos. 

I really don't think the marginal level of rasp he used at Dublin has anything to do with his current issues. I'd guess the real issue within his singing is the tone he uses for songs like nightrain these days where he is clearly forcing distortion to happen... a lot of the rasp he used in Dublin sounded pretty effortless. Anyway... one night of marginal rasp is not going to blow out his voice, it's if he sang like that every night for every song and used bad technique. There's a fuck ton of ifs there. 

End of the day, if that's what people are willing to accept then so be it, but I wouldn't be wishing for it to happen. Go watch Whitesnake where David has taken this approach and allows his backing band to sing all his high notes... as great as the backing singers are, it takes all the air out of the wheels. David is basically up on stage just to be there and the other guys are clearly doing the heavy lifting. I saw them years before and while he struggled the show was much better when he sang the higher lines. GNRs show will struggle if he goes down that path too. It's a hard line to try and walk I just don't think it works outside of GNR touring in a much more stripped back acoustic focussed way.

[Tom2112]

4 hours ago, Dangom1 said:

Out of interest where has it been confirmed that the Dublin show is where Axl got his sore throat from? It was hardly any different to any other show this year 🤷‍♂️

There is absolutely no confirmation on that, it's pure jumping to conclusions when in reality there could be any number of reasons why someones voice could go out. The level of rasp he used was pleasant but far from excessive or sounding harmful to his voice.

[vloors]

3 hours ago, Pedrolg said:

Maybe with all the drama Axl only had a flu, sore throat or something like that

That's what I'm thinking or covid 

[Gordon Comstock]

23 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

I don't want to see Axl up there half assing it. And yes, Axl singing low and "saving his voice" is the half assing.

 

I agree if the choice is between mickey or baritone, then baritone is obviously preferable.

I don't see how using the low voice is half-assing it. It still sounds recognizably like Axl Rose and it's not like he's just talking his way through the songs. IMO it would make the set stronger if he saved the high vocals and screams for just a few songs and do co-lead vocals on a few songs. Something like this would be fucking awesome:

Pretty Tied Up
Mr. Brownstone
You're Crazy (Slow)
Chinese Democracy
Welcome To The Jungle (high vocals)
Bad Obsession
Estranged
Absurd
Civil War
So Fine (Axl & Duff)
Double Talkin' Jive
Sweet Child O' Mine (high vocals)
You Ain't The First (Axl & Duff)
Patience
Wichita Lineman / Used To Love Her
Knockin' On Heaven's Door
November Rain (high vocals at the end)
It's So Easy (high vocals at the end)
Locomotive (Axl & Melissa)
Down On The Farm / Slither
Perhaps
Nightrain
----------
Marseilles / Black Leather
Paradise City (high vocals)

 

I'd buy a ticket for that show in a heartbeat. They could definitely put on a good show with mostly low vocals, and spreading out the songs with high vocals would make them have more of an impact. Throw the occasional scream in there and it's a well-paced set.

[Pedrolg]

32 minutes ago, vloors said:

That's what I'm thinking or covid 

With covid it would also make sense for him too keep quiet and just recover in order do avoid hysteria and talks of canceling the whole tour.

[Tom2112]

8 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

I agree if the choice is between mickey or baritone, then baritone is obviously preferable.

I don't see how using the low voice is half-assing it. It still sounds recognizably like Axl Rose and it's not like he's just talking his way through the songs. IMO it would make the set stronger if he saved the high vocals and screams for just a few songs and do co-lead vocals on a few songs. Something like this would be fucking awesome:

Pretty Tied Up
Mr. Brownstone
You're Crazy (Slow)
Chinese Democracy
Welcome To The Jungle (high vocals)
Bad Obsession
Estranged
Absurd
Civil War
So Fine (Axl & Duff)
Double Talkin' Jive
Sweet Child O' Mine (high vocals)
You Ain't The First (Axl & Duff)
Patience
Wichita Lineman / Used To Love Her
Knockin' On Heaven's Door
November Rain (high vocals at the end)
It's So Easy (high vocals at the end)
Locomotive (Axl & Melissa)
Down On The Farm / Slither
Perhaps
Nightrain
----------
Marseilles / Black Leather
Paradise City (high vocals)

 

I'd buy a ticket for that show in a heartbeat. They could definitely put on a good show with mostly low vocals, and spreading out the songs with high vocals would make them have more of an impact. Throw the occasional scream in there and it's a well-paced set.

It can be done, but I guess in this case I'd need to hear it to be swayed. There's just certain songs in the gnr catalogue the need the lift of the higher range at certain parts of the song. 

I know a lot of people here would just prefer the low range so mickey disappears and they can watch videos without driving sharp objects into their ears I just don't think it's the first place I'd go. Try drop the keys, try working with a coach to restrengthen the voice, do some rearranging of the set and sure sing some low and let the backing band take some weight. I don't think it's an all or nothing thing but I would wager that Axl does not want to be on stage and not capable of getting up into that range.

[Gordon Comstock]

4 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

It can be done, but I guess in this case I'd need to hear it to be swayed. There's just certain songs in the gnr catalogue the need the lift of the higher range at certain parts of the song. 

I know a lot of people here would just prefer the low range so mickey disappears and they can watch videos without driving sharp objects into their ears I just don't think it's the first place I'd go. Try drop the keys, try working with a coach to restrengthen the voice, do some rearranging of the set and sure sing some low and let the backing band take some weight. I don't think it's an all or nothing thing but I would wager that Axl does not want to be on stage and not capable of getting up into that range.

 

I think he'll regain his higher range, but he shouldn't use it as much going forward. Obviously songs like SCOM and WTTJ need the high vocals if they're playing to stadium crowds.

I've been saying it for a while, there's no reason to be playing Better or YCBM every night. Hardschool should be dropped, and if they want to replace it with another new song, release Perhaps (it would sound awesome with Duff and Melissa high in the mix during the chorus) or Ain't Goin' Down (I could imagine Axl and Melissa harmonizing well on this one).

I'm not saying he should use the low voice for everything, but if he wants to tour until he's like 70 or until he's physically unable to, then adapting to the baritone voice for most of the set is inevitable.

[t-p-d-a]

12 hours ago, Kosonen said:

Maybe they should use hologram Axl from 92? Why not, thats an option. 

GN'R Voyage?  

12 hours ago, Kosonen said:

Maybe they should use hologram Axl from 92? Why not, thats an option. 

GN'R Voyage?  

12 hours ago, Kosonen said:

Maybe they should use hologram Axl from 92? Why not, thats an option. 

GN'R Voyage?  

 

 

 

Edit: stupid german mobile net

Edited July 7, 2022 by t-p-d-a

[Rovim]

12 hours ago, Tom2112 said:

 You're smoking crack if you think people would be pleased if he just dropped his high range for the majority of the set. It is literally the main thing people think of other than Slash's guitar solos. 

this is very similar to how I see it. I want Axl to be active as a singer for as long as he possibly can, for years to come. But when I think about the main elements of what makes Gn'R- Gn'R to me, and I guess to a lot of other people, it's the banshee wail, the screaming piercing high notes and vocals. Melodies that would have never been as effective as they are if it wasn't for the way they are sung. It's not everything that makes Axl's voice special in Gn'R and the only reason for the tunes to be what they are, but it's a major part of it imo.

bariton in Gn'R can only go so far and even if Axl is 60, I don't think it's time to switch to only a low voice or remove singing high notes that are sung by Axl from songs that basically need it and in Gn'R there are a lot of those, if not most, at least for me.

not saying it can't sound good, Axl is a super talented singer with a unique timber, not only when he sings high notes or when it's raspy or in falsetto, but it sounds less like Gn'R to me when it's only/mostly low singing. 

most of the time he sings in a high register, a Gn'R staple. Can't pretend it will be the same when he can't do it anymore.

I don't think we're there yet anyway. I don't think we know enough to already decide it's time for Axl to change his whole approach to it. It's possible, but I think I'll give it more time and hear how he sounds like in the next year or so and then I'll be in a better position to decide if the way of the bariton/changing keys is the better way to go for Gn'R from now on. (for me personally)

Edited July 7, 2022 by Rovim

[Paulywauly]

For me personally GNR is Axls voice, when I saw them in Dublin 2010, after the trouble when they came back on and he just stood in the same spot rest of the show I stood at the back of that arena in awe as those vocals ripped through the arena like a fucking chainsaw.

When I next saw them in Manchester 2012 the vocals didn’t rip through the arena the same, still moments here n there but I felt disappointed compared to 2010.

Then when I saw them in London 2017 however good to see slash back the vocals were nowhere close to 2010, still great moments here n there, I was surprised for though how different he sounded especially after the AC/DC shows.

Then the vocals on Friday night in London for me were not good, no rasp at all, even slash doesn’t sound like slash a lot of the time, I couldn’t believe really that I sort of felt like I preferred the 2010 version of GnR!

Might be selfish but I wanna here those vocals rip through me, I wanna here the screams, I wanna see the running, 60 isn’t old, he is still capable of doing it to good effect especially when it’s needed, for me if he were to sing the songs all lower register it takes away the energy, the low voice works for songs it was intended for, but for welcome to the jungle etc it needs full rasp, on friday night there was no rasp at all.

[Lethalis]

8 minutes ago, Paulywauly said:

For me personally GNR is Axls voice, when I saw them in Dublin 2010, after the trouble when they came back on and he just stood in the same spot rest of the show I stood at the back of that arena in awe as those vocals ripped through the arena like a fucking chainsaw.

When I next saw them in Manchester 2012 the vocals didn’t rip through the arena the same, still moments here n there but I felt disappointed compared to 2010.

Then when I saw them in London 2017 however good to see slash back the vocals were nowhere close to 2010, still great moments here n there, I was surprised for though how different he sounded especially after the AC/DC shows.

Then the vocals on Friday night in London for me were not good, no rasp at all, even slash doesn’t sound like slash a lot of the time, I couldn’t believe really that I sort of felt like I preferred the 2010 version of GnR!

Might be selfish but I wanna here those vocals rip through me, I wanna here the screams, I wanna see the running, 60 isn’t old, he is still capable of doing it to good effect especially when it’s needed, for me if he were to sing the songs all lower register it takes away the energy, the low voice works for songs it was intended for, but for welcome to the jungle etc it needs full rasp, on friday night there was no rasp at all.

60 isn't old? I'm 41 years old and my voice sounds lower than it did when I was 20.

GNR is not only Axl's screaming, it's also Axl's attitude. And that - to me at least - reaches me a lot better when he's singing in an (somewhat angry) lower voice than when he sounds like friggin' Mickey Mouse, screeching like his balls got twisted or something.

But yeah, I liked Velvet Revolver. I liked Scott Weiland's singing. So maybe that's also why I like baritone Axl.

Edited July 7, 2022 by Lethalis

[Alexpro]

17 hours ago, Alexmee239 said:

Mind giving a screenshot?

I started following Fortus on FB yesterday, and FB phone app started showing me a lot of his activity (as it always does with people you just added to your network). Turns out, Richard is VERY active on FB and leaves a lot of comments to various people's posts.

As these were his comments left in other folks' FB pages and meant specifically for them, I don't think it's quite right to grab them and put in the public eye. Mind you, there was no private or sensitive content, yet I don't want RF to feel that there's a Big Brother watching over his shoulder and tracking all his FB activity.

Suffice to say, he seems very upbeat about the remainder of the tour and was inviting his friends to the shows in Munich and Vienna specifically. I take it as a good sign! 

[Eric Cantona]

 

[Stay.Of.Execution]

Fucking love this guy

[Dani_1455]

So now we know that Axl is working with a vocal coach, hope that he can recover well, come on Axl!

[Petejstephens]

For those who go tonight, enjoy the show and upload live streams 😜

🤘🏼🤘🏼

[Ratam]

23 minutes ago, Petejstephens said:

For those who go tonight, enjoy the show and upload live streams 😜

🤘🏼🤘🏼

Is tomorrow.

[©GnrPersia]

1 hour ago, Dani_1455 said:

So now we know that Axl is working with a vocal coach, hope that he can recover well, come on Axl!

So he didn't have Vocal Coach since 2017.

Pro Axls, bring it on!