19AT5 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 4 hours ago, ZoSoRose said: The chorus is really good and the rest of the song is "meh", definitely has some cool ideas in it but I don't think it'd make for a great song as-is. Agree with ya there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 3 hours ago, janrichmond said: I thought the intro was shit 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19AT5 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 8 hours ago, janrichmond said: It's the only memorable leak to my ears. I thought the intro was shit Agree on second point completely. Thought State of Grace was a decent track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefinitelyInThisLifetime Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 It’s good. Perhaps is better. That’s my take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAC Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 11 hours ago, DefinitelyInThisLifetime said: It’s good. Perhaps is better. That’s my take. It's really good. And better is better than perhaps. 😅 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaskingApathy Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 On 5/10/2021 at 12:17 PM, janrichmond said: It's the only memorable leak to my ears. I thought the intro was shit I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 When the locker leaks first happened in summer 2019, I liked everything that I heard, including Hardschool. That being said, I recently revisited those leaks and I honestly don’t think I like any of it anymore. It kinda makes sense to me now why all those songs have remained unreleased all these years. I much prefer the album we actually got in 2008 instead. I honestly don’t know what I want the new album to be anymore, or if I even want one at all, at this point. But whatever. It’s not my band. If Axl, Slash and Duff are really gonna do a new album, then they should just simply make it whatever they want it to be, and if that means putting songs like Hardschool and Atlas on it, then so be it. Who knows? Maybe I’ll actually end up loving the final versions of those songs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hudsonsaul Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 7 hours ago, rocknroll41 said: When the locker leaks first happened in summer 2019, I liked everything that I heard, including Hardschool. That being said, I recently revisited those leaks and I honestly don’t think I like any of it anymore. It kinda makes sense to me now why all those songs have remained unreleased all these years. I much prefer the album we actually got in 2008 instead. I honestly don’t know what I want the new album to be anymore, or if I even want one at all, at this point. But whatever. It’s not my band. If Axl, Slash and Duff are really gonna do a new album, then they should just simply make it whatever they want it to be, and if that means putting songs like Hardschool and Atlas on it, then so be it. Who knows? Maybe I’ll actually end up loving the final versions of those songs. Yup, I'm the same. Was excited by said leaks, but they're pretty underwhelming in hindsight. It's simple, if they intend to release music, they just need to get in a studio and record. It doesn't have to be a grandiose master piece, or over thought, or anything. IMO it will sell regardless, whilst it will also get canned regardless of whether it's amazing or not. IMO they just got to decide if they want to do a record, and just spend a month tops in a studio recording - not a hard ask when they have their own studios, have all the equipment, plenty of time and money on their hands etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19AT5 Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Listened to Hard School again last night. Intro still annoys me and middle section is equally shit. Way too bloody happy sounding! Chorus is catchy as sin though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateRadio Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 I like Hard School a lot too! There are a few leaked Chinese II or whatever.. that I dig. Hard School was the first song I heard a couple years ago, and it’s stuck with me. Totally feels like a rollercoaster, it’s thought out, it sounds like GNR with a twist. It should be released somehow. Axl and the original boys should’ve explored in the direction of this song 1995-2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Hardskool had a cool chorus, but the verse was meh and the whole breakdown thing is a disaster. To my ears Perhaps and State of Grace are the two strongest songs with vocals and SOG only has basic guide vocals. Would love to hear both in finished states! Atlas has potential but it's a bit stop starty jumping from use your illusion to down on the upside... I like both albums but the puzzle of mixing both wasn't right for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 The song I had hyped up in my mind after years of listening to the small snippet that leaked was ultimately too good to be true. I think it's pretty "meh" myself but there are some cool ideas. It'll be interesting to hear what Slash and Duff have done with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 I think it is a great song. Nothing sophisticated, just good, stupid fun. The intro feels a bit tacked on, but I like it, too. Not too fond of the soloing at the end, but the false stop is great. Good vocals, memorably verses and catchy chorus with some fiery Axl vocals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanG Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 I like it a lot, not as much as the other songs that leaked at the time, but still pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 On 5/16/2021 at 5:47 AM, 19AT5 said: Listened to Hard School again last night. Intro still annoys me and middle section is equally shit. Way too bloody happy sounding! Chorus is catchy as sin though. Yeah thank fuck the intro is gone (based on the soundcheck clip we heard). Starting it with a simple Duff bassline makes much more sense. Gives the song more of an It’s So Easy vibe. And yeah if the band was smart they’d get rid of that middle section too and just replace it with a simple Slash solo. Even if it means the song ends up being less than 3 minutes, it doesn’t matter. Sometimes less is more. Some revision to the lyrics would be nice too (the second verse needs work imo). But at the end of the day it doesn’t matter cause this song is never coming out anyways... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 hour ago, rocknroll41 said: Yeah thank fuck the intro is gone (based on the soundcheck clip we heard). Starting it with a simple Duff bassline makes much more sense. Gives the song more of an It’s So Easy vibe. And yeah if the band was smart they’d get rid of that middle section too and just replace it with a simple Slash solo. Even if it means the song ends up being less than 3 minutes, it doesn’t matter. Sometimes less is more. Exactly. The demo we heard, like plenty of other CD songs, sounds like it's trying to be more 'epic' than it really is, with that long intro and meandering mid-section. Cut it down to a quick hard rocker (like Garden Of Eden or Perfect Crime) and it'd be better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakey Styley Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 43 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said: Exactly. The demo we heard, like plenty of other CD songs, sounds like it's trying to be more 'epic' than it really is, with that long intro and meandering mid-section. Cut it down to a quick hard rocker (like Garden Of Eden or Perfect Crime) and it'd be better. Axl had a very weird thing for unnecessary intros in the CD era. He just couldn't resist them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beto 22 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Jakey Styley said: Axl had a very weird thing for unnecessary intros in the CD era. He just couldn't resist them. So true... The Intro of Scraped being the biggest example! That Intro doesn't add anything to the song and probably makes 90% of the listeners skip it just because of the intro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19AT5 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Beto 22 said: So true... The Intro of Scraped being the biggest example! That Intro doesn't add anything to the song and probably makes 90% of the listeners skip it just because of the intro That is one hellish intro that! Christ alive, somebody should have said: "Hey... Axl... yanno the a capella intro thingy in Scraped... it's horse shit. It really is. And all the ooooh aaah pish during the song... equally horse shit. Lyrics are pretty bad too. Riff is kinda cool though. And solo section is decent. But aye, mainly horse shit." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 The final version of Riad also had a shitty intro added to it (which they ended up getting sued for anyways). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19AT5 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 2 hours ago, rocknroll41 said: The final version of Riad also had a shitty intro added to it (which they ended up getting sued for anyways). It is just a shit song full stop though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowOfTheWave Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Riad had potential but that "all my salvation" part is so grating due to it's repetition. A secret Steve Harris co-write? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 42 minutes ago, ShadowOfTheWave said: Riad had potential but that "all my salvation" part is so grating due to it's repetition. A secret Steve Harris co-write? It’s funny you say that, cause that’s the only part of the song I actually like lol. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintari Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 I would love to hear it, but the people in charge of GNR these days are so anally protective that I'll never get that chance unless something official drops. Even if they do start playing it live, they will likely send out their troops and have it pulled down before I can watch it. It's a shame, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 On 5/10/2021 at 12:16 PM, lukepowell1988 said: Good song but doesn't sound near finished to me Yeah especially the solo section it just sounds like a rough mix of an unfinished song - which I suppose it is lol. More finished than State of Grace from a vocal track standpoint but to me not nearly as complete sounding as some of the versions from the Village Sessions like IRS, CITR, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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