Sweersa Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, GnR Chris said: A version of Riad on the locker room leaks elevates the song, IMO. The laser-sounding noises are turned up in the mix. That and added bass makes the song slap so fuckin’ hard. I like Riad. Lyrically weak, but good tune. Sort of like Scraped, if it didn't have that intro. Most of the songs, dialed back on the production scale are pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 2 hours ago, GNRfanMILO said: I like the Village version, but I think the finished version from Chinese Democracy is trash. It's IMO the song that suffered overproduction the most, right there with Street of Dreams. Yeah the village demo with the bass intro and the louder backing vocals in the chorus sounded more like an actual song, at the very least. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 I love the song. By far the best hard rock riff and drums on the record. The album version did fucked up with both drums and bass way too low in the mix and unnecessary overdubs by Bumble on the rhythm guitar, but I quite like the solo. Like I said many times, before the Village leaks, it was by far the most "AFD on steroids" sounding, as this is how people described CD in 1999. 3 hours ago, Jakey Styley said: It definitely has an emo flair to it. LOL what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAxlMorrison Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 It’s alright. It gets a play here and there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvela Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Love it , one of my favs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfanMILO Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Sweersa said: Sort of like Scraped, if it didn't have that intro. Most of the songs, dialed back on the production scale are pretty good. Scraped was a banger live in 2009-2010. Frank's drum intro elevated the song to a whole another level. @imsorry did a great remix of that track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flayer Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) I like many, perhaps even most of the song’s individual elements, but the sum is just way less than its parts. The vocals are abrasive and grating to listen to, the lyrics don’t say much to me, and the song overall just fails to evoke any particular mood. And the leaked versions with the heavier mix aren’t much better. Edited May 23, 2021 by Flayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiedHands Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 I love Riad. I dont think its some great masterpiece but it's a fun aggressive song. Really like a lot of the guitar parts and Axl's vocals are fantastic. I just feel like the final version was very copy and pasted. And I really miss the "my Bedouin" line at the end. Some of the live versions in '02 were pretty impressive, imo, and you can tell its a song the band was really into playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaguns1982 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Some of Axls vocals sound awesome but the song itself is trash IMO. I used to like it but as the years have passed I dislike most of CD and realised what a cut and paste mess that album truly is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaguns1982 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 6 hours ago, Sweersa said: Sort of like Scraped, if it didn't have that intro. Most of the songs, dialed back on the production scale are pretty good. Scraped would be much better without all of that “don’t you try and stop us now” shit and get rid of the Axl moaning shit at the beginning. Also needs a better solo.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnuld Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 I liked it when I first heard the bootleg from the HOB show back in 01. It was weird which is what I was expecting from the CD songs based on the descriptions I read in 1999-2000. I thought Madagascar was super weird the first time I heard that song as well but it grew on me immediately. I’ve never liked any of the studio versions of Riad. Mainly because the lyrics are bad. I was super disappointed it actually made the cut for CD because I thought it was by far the worst of all the leaks. But at least it wasn’t the worst song on CD that title belongs to Scraped which has the worst lyrics of any GNR song. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonKinight Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 I Simply love it, I remember spending a lot of time listening to the isolated tracks of it (Specially the vocals). My favoritore versions are those ones that emerged on 2019 with that "metal'ish" guitars on the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimisbatman Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) Love the locker version. I love the lasers, loud drums, vocal melody and bass. One of my go-to songs from the locker leaks, especially Josh drumming. IMHO, the locker version is my no. 1 song to open my fantasy chinese democracy album lol Edited May 23, 2021 by jimisbatman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slash23579 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Honestly I like the version of Riad that ended up on the album, even more than the leaked versions tho I definitely prefer the short intro. The song itself is far from my favorite on CD, but I enjoy it enough that I won’t skip when it comes on. The verses are ok and I really dislike the immigrant song screams but the chorus is great and that’s what saves the song imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 The chorus is a top tier melody. Very catchy IMO. The rest of the song is not. 1st is cool i guess, but way to short, good vocal delivery though. 2nd verse is ass-juice: Dumbed down variation of the riff and weak Axl vocals. The ahhs are a little annoying. I can see how they can be accused of ripping of the equally annoying (to me) Immigrant song screech, but the only similarity I see is that it starts on the same note, the vocal runs are different though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitchisback Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Not the best, not the worst. I like it, but it's a lower tier GnR song. The early bootlegs were much better as most ChiDemo songs were Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 I like it, there are definitely worse songs on CD. Could do without the abundant aaahhhs throughout, he should have only done it at the beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 13 hours ago, GNRfanMILO said: Scraped was a banger live in 2009-2010. Frank's drum intro elevated the song to a whole another level. @imsorry did a great remix of that track Unfortunately, I never got to hear it live. I like what they did to Shackler's when I heard that live. Axl's vocal delivery was way more intense on the live version of that song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOUCOULDBEMINE. Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 32 minutes ago, Sweersa said: Unfortunately, I never got to hear it live. I like what they did to Shackler's when I heard that live. Axl's vocal delivery was way more intense on the live version of that song. They played Shackler at the Arnhem show in 2010 too. Kinda changed my mind about the song, because the album version never did anything for me. But that was the thing about most CD songs on the 2010 tour, songs like IRS and Madagascar were damn powerfull compared to their flat studioversions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunsJail Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 It’s not great and it’s part of what made CD so confounding. We waited umpteen years for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 RM01 made me appreciate the song a lot more than I had previously. I really find it hard to imagine Brian May on there though, even Tommy was showing him chord shapes for it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristianGNR Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 2 hours ago, YOUCOULDBEMINE. said: They played Shackler at the Arnhem show in 2010 too. Kinda changed my mind about the song, because the album version never did anything for me. But that was the thing about most CD songs on the 2010 tour, songs like IRS and Madagascar were damn powerfull compared to their flat studioversions. There were a lot of cool live intros back then too. The live intro to Scraped (in 2009?) was 100 times better than the intro on the album. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kever20 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 I don't dislike it. Funny story: on Pandora yesterday, Scraped popped up randomly, but the app had it listed as Rhiad. I've never seen a mistake like that on Pandora. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 It's one my least favourite songs on the album, I think there's a great song in there, but it's just a bit too all over the places. I still listen to it from time to time though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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