Does anyone care?

[MANEK]

I didn’t plan to care, now I can’t wait to see them in Vegas next month. 

[allwaystired]

2 hours ago, MANEK said:

I didn’t plan to care, now I can’t wait to see them in Vegas next month. 

Very naughty. 

[Tom-Ass]

14 hours ago, RussTCB said:

Izzys take on the reunion are best summed up in the lyrics of this song that covered in response to the NITL tour 

I feel like this one was also in response to that situation..

Izzy Stradlin - Stuck In The Middle With You - by Stealers Wheel - YouTube

They can fight about it, money, some bag of gold.
They can fight about it, money, the big wheels roll.
And I'm taking the long way home today.
Really got no worries either way.
Cuttin' deals, shakin' hands,
hopin' it feels, open plans.
They can fight about it, money, it's just a bag of gold.
They can fight about it, money, feel the big wheels roll.
And I'm taking the long way home today.
Really in no hurry either way.
Open fields, open planes, open gates, open lands, open space, open sky, open mind, open race.
They can fight about it, money, it's a bag of gold.
They can fight about it, money, the story goes.

 

 

 

Edited July 12, 2021 by Tom-Ass

[RussTCB]

Being paid what you're worth doesn't make someone "about money". However, going through the motions with a band you don't even want to be in does. 

That's the difference between Izzy and Slash/Duff currently. 

Anyone saying otherwise is just renewing their membership in the Axl Rose Defense Force. 

[MaskingApathy]

11 hours ago, EvanG said:

Regarding the reunion, I understand he didn't think it was fair if it didn't get split equally as he tweeted and I don't disagree if that is true. But goddamn... I would have done it for free if it was just for two shows anyway as it was supposed to be. Just to please the fans or for old time's sake. It's sad it always has to be about money in the first place. 

 

Yeah that's fair for sure. Although I guess he realized how much money they were going to make from Coachella or whichever shows it was going to be and decided that he should be paid more based on that, which is also fair. If that's the case then it's unfortunate that Axl/Slash/Duff weren't willing to accommodate him (although I'm sure the final say lies with Axl). But on the other hand there's the thing that Duff was saying about how they had amps ready for him at rehearsal and he never showed up, so maybe he didn't want to do it to begin with and he used the money as an excuse. 

[RichardNixon]

On 7/4/2021 at 9:12 AM, Tom-Ass said:

The tour starts in less than a month.. Does anyone even care? Did any tickets sell?  I haven't even been looking. I feel like this is the least anticipated Guns tour ever.  I have tickets for the second show and could care less. I have been holding onto them for two years and it is on a Tuesday night.  The band isn't doing anything to stir up any excitement. They are all 5 years older.. I expect Axl to look and sound like shit and use the show as a rehearsal.  Ridiculous hats and elf boots included. They will still have the same half assed lineup complete with a terrible drummer and a blue haired anime bobblehead.  

I could care less if this lineup ever released a song. No interest in anything that includes Fortus, Frank or the Bobblehead. Axl sounded like crap on CD never mind now and I have no interest in any music that sounds anything like CD.

For me the highlight of the "reunion" were the live shows. They have been a blast . I could watch Slash play those classics all day long but I couldn't be more indifferent about this show coming up. You would think it would be the total opposite since Covid stifled live shows for so long. 

Is anyone jacked up about the tour?

 

I don't understand the point of posts like this. 

[jamillos]

14 minutes ago, RichardNixon said:

I don't understand the point of posts like this. 

Communicating frustration

[gavgnr]

1 hour ago, RichardNixon said:

I don't understand the point of posts like this. 

Dudes got a point though. It’s just more of the same and I think ticket sales have reflected this. Would have been the perfect time to announce a new album to get people stoked for the tour. Instead, the band just seems to be relying on people wanting to go see them cos it’s the first concert they’ll have seen since COVID 

[Joraz]

Slightly off topic but can someone tell me the first tour date back?

[El Guapo]

48 minutes ago, gavgnr said:

Dudes got a point though. It’s just more of the same and I think ticket sales have reflected this. Would have been the perfect time to announce a new album to get people stoked for the tour. Instead, the band just seems to be relying on people wanting to go see them cos it’s the first concert they’ll have seen since COVID 

That's right, it comes across as very arrogant on their part. And then there's the "selects" which won't help either.

Edited July 13, 2021 by El Guapo

[Rovim]

14 minutes ago, Joraz said:

Slightly off topic but can someone tell me the first tour date back?

July 31, Hershey Park Stadium Hershey, PA

[Joraz]

8 minutes ago, Rovim said:

July 31, Hershey Park Stadium Hershey, PA

Why is there no page in this forum for that tour in the “2021 Tour Dates” section?

[Rovim]

3 minutes ago, Joraz said:

Why is there no page in this forum for that tour in the “2021 Tour Dates” section?

idk, maybe you can ask one of the mods.

[RussTCB]

55 minutes ago, Rovim said:

Russ, how do you know Slash and Duff don't want to be in Gn'R? it seems they really wanted to return to the fold and haven't regretted it. Also they seemed to have a lot of fun playing to all these people and being in a band with Axl again. It's also a business, but I think they enjoy playing to huge crowds, especially Slash.

I was posting my opinion on the matter, I don't know them personally. My opinion is shaped by my perception of what I see from them. 

[Sweersa]

I wouldn't be surprised if Axl and Slash tolerate each other for business purposes. 

[Rovim]

4 hours ago, RussTCB said:

I was posting my opinion on the matter, I don't know them personally. My opinion is shaped by my perception of what I see from them. 

fair enough, I deleted the post soon after asking cause on second thought it seemed pointless, I think I already get your position on it.

Edited July 13, 2021 by Rovim

[Tom2112]

 

19 minutes ago, Sweersa said:

I wouldn't be surprised if Axl and Slash tolerate each other for business purposes. 

As much as what they've been doing together since reuniting is largely shit, I still find it hard to believe that they are only up there because someone finally cracked their magic number. I fully believe that they are at the very least friendly, I doubt they are besties... regardless, they don't have to like each other to work well together. 

I don't know how invested Slash is in the whole thing though, he just seems like he's one foot out the door / parachute on. His focus is still very much on SMKC, I don't even think GNR releasing this mythical album would change that. I think he's tasted the easy life with Myles and can't be arsed dealing with any BS. He probably thinks "I'd love to record, but if Axl just wants to tour that's ok with me".

[RussTCB]

2 hours ago, gavgnr said:

Dudes got a point though. It’s just more of the same and I think ticket sales have reflected this. Would have been the perfect time to announce a new album to get people stoked for the tour. Instead, the band just seems to be relying on people wanting to go see them cos it’s the first concert they’ll have seen since COVID 

Exactly.

It's a discussion forum, so people are supposed to be discussing GN'R. It's not the fault of the fans that GN'R doesn't give their fans anything positive to discuss. 

The point of the thread seems pretty clear to me. You have a long time fan ( @Tom-Ass) who would very much like to be excited about GN'R, but there's no reason to be. Seems natural to be curious how others feel and why they feel the way they do. 

[PatrickS77]

43 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

 

As much as what they've been doing together since reuniting is largely shit, I still find it hard to believe that they are only up there because someone finally cracked their magic number. I fully believe that they are at the very least friendly, I doubt they are besties... regardless, they don't have to like each other to work well together. 

I don't know how invested Slash is in the whole thing though, he just seems like he's one foot out the door / parachute on. His focus is still very much on SMKC, I don't even think GNR releasing this mythical album would change that. I think he's tasted the easy life with Myles and can't be arsed dealing with any BS. He probably thinks "I'd love to record, but if Axl just wants to tour that's ok with me".

I think there have been enough moments. Little things, that show that they do not "just tolerate" each other. Starting from Las Vegas on, just seeing how Axl, at times just sat there, watching them. But obviously, apart from the stage, travel from and to the show, each one has their own life and mostly keeps to themselves.

Of course for Slash, it's a whole different thing as back in the day. He has SMKC as his creative outlet now, which challenges him as an artist and then there is GNR, which is more than paying the bills and for a guy like him, a huge blast to just reap the fruits of his labours from a quarter century ago, getting out there each night, playing in front of stadiums. He get's the best of both worlds. He has his own thing and GNR as the side gig that affords him the freedom to not give a fuck about what happens anymore. I mean he's living the dream.

Edited July 13, 2021 by PatrickS77

[Tom-Ass]

6 hours ago, RussTCB said:

Exactly.

It's a discussion forum, so people are supposed to be discussing GN'R. It's not the fault of the fans that GN'R doesn't give their fans anything positive to discuss. 

The point of the thread seems pretty clear to me. You have a long time fan ( @Tom-Ass) who would very much like to be excited about GN'R, but there's no reason to be. Seems natural to be curious how others feel and why they feel the way they do. 

I would love more than anything for this band to produce something badass that as a fan I could be proud of.  Share to my friends. There literally hasn't been one instance of that in 5 1/2 years.  The Selects just further show how little they give a shit about anything but the paycheck. I can't believe that anyone in the band watches that crap before it is released.  If the performances aren't cringeworthy then they mixes make them unwatchable. Axl tries to get pictures of his fat face taken off the internet but he is ok with the quality of these videos? Perplexing. 

I randomly came across some new (2018) Suicidal Tendencies show on youtube last night. Mike Muir is the original/classic era member and it was 10 times the quality of any Select.

The Selects are just the tip of the iceberg. I figured they would all come out with something to prove for this "reunion"..  5 1/2 years later it is pretty evident that it really was all about the money.  

Lost my respect for Axl back into 2002..  Losing it for Slash and Duff now too and I hate it. 

[KURT19]

They give us absolutely nothing to care about anymore.

[sliverjazz]

I honestly only care because with seemingly all the musicians passing away lately I feel GNR is a great link or connection to a happier reality.

[El Guapo]

2 hours ago, sliverjazz said:

I honestly only care because with seemingly all the musicians passing away lately I feel GNR is a great link or connection to a happier reality.

Yeah, following GNR is such a joy! 

[RussTCB]

10 minutes ago, El Guapo said:

Yeah, following GNR is such a joy! 

I honestly do get the "they won't be around forever" argument BUT I've also seen then a LOT. 

I saw GN'R in 91, 92, 93, 02, 06, 10, 11, 12 & 16 with multiple shows during many of those years. 

Unless they're gonna do something new & interesting, I'm set. 

[allwaystired]

Just now, RussTCB said:

I honestly do get the "they won't be around forever" argument BUT I've also seen then a LOT. 

I saw GN'R in 91, 92, 93, 02, 06, 10, 11, 12 & 16 with multiple shows during many of those years. 

Unless they're gonna do something new & interesting, I'm set. 

The "they won't be around forever" tag applies to every band in existence. I remember thinking back in 02 that it "may be the last chance I get to see GNR"!