jacdaniel Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 This is actually an honest/legit question... before Covid I believe that these shows were getting marketed as an all new show? I know that was the case for the European shows at least that I have tickets for. I think all of us can see that this is still the exact same show. Which is fair enough if you didn't mention that it would be an all new show... But they did mention it, and then proceeded to play the same setlist in the exact same order as always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowOfTheWave Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 This tour hasn't been branded as an all new show, they dropped "The Next Chapter" and replaced it with "We're F'N Back" with a "stomping Covid" tour poster, so Axl is using the pandemic as a selling point for the tour as an excuse to delay having to do a new show for at least another year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reayj2003 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) Exactly. Promoters are obviously of the opinion that with over a year of no shows the fact there is a “show” is enough to market this on. With the cancellation of the Def Leppard/Motley tour it probably isn’t a bad shout. Given the fact the European tour is guaranteed to sell well, if an album release is going to be tied specifically to a tour..that might not be needed for quite some time. Slash releasing a conspirators album early 2022 might not be a good sign either. Edited August 3, 2021 by reayj2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Eh? It was an all new show? They cut 40 minutes from it and gave us I Wanna Be Your Dog? Never happy..."complaints complaints complaints" In all seriousness, I did think there was a possibility that they may go with the tried and tested due to people being depraved of live music for so long, but I had convinced myself that they'd throw in a new song at the very least to indicate what lies ahead. That obviously didn't turn out to be the case, but now I'm just hoping that Hardschool wasn't played due to Axl having difficulty with his in ears, so I suppose we'll see what happens in Boston! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vloors Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, Dean said: Eh? It was an all new show? They cut 40 minutes from it and gave us I Wanna Be Your Dog? Never happy..."complaints complaints complaints" In all seriousness, I did think there was a possibility that they may go with the tried and tested due to people being depraved of live music for so long, but I had convinced myself that they'd throw in a new song at the very least to indicate what lies ahead. That obviously didn't turn out to be the case, but now I'm just hoping that Hardschool wasn't played due to Axl having difficulty with his in ears, so I suppose we'll see what happens in Boston! The promotion was a all new Duff performance. And damn what a terrible song it is imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 It's a great question, summed up by Effort vs Return. My guess is that an all new show costs a good whack of money. All new show means rehearsal rooms for months on end, getting techs and musicians in one spot being paid, it means hiring stage designers, lighting directors, video directors. Money. Gnr are out on the road recouping losses from 2020. This tour is not "we missed you!!!" It's "we missed your cash". End of the day an all new set isn't necessary to sell tickets... I would however be curious to see the number of sold tickets vs discounted / free tickets though. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefinitelyInThisLifetime Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Oh, you thought we were getting what we were expecting? No…that’s not how it works. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible_rose Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 26 minutes ago, DefinitelyInThisLifetime said: Oh, you thought we were getting what we hoped for? No…that’s not how it works. Fixed. I'll be honest, this is exactly what I was expecting. Just not what I'd hoped for. And I'm pretty devoid of all hope now. Dude in another thread called it - best we can ever hope for now is Hard Skool as part of the UIY anniversary product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 5 hours ago, ShadowOfTheWave said: This tour hasn't been branded as an all new show, they dropped "The Next Chapter" and replaced it with "We're F'N Back" with a "stomping Covid" tour poster, so Axl is using the pandemic as a selling point for the tour as an excuse to delay having to do a new show for at least another year. It was branded as an all new show though back before the pandemic on commercials here in my area and others, the words "All New Show" were used specifically. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsinindy Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 5 hours ago, ShadowOfTheWave said: This tour hasn't been branded as an all new show, they dropped "The Next Chapter" and replaced it with "We're F'N Back" with a "stomping Covid" tour poster, so Axl is using the pandemic as a selling point for the tour as an excuse to delay having to do a new show for at least another year. "ALL NEW SHOW" at the 0:15 mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOS--LOA Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 (edited) I was hoping that they would have rehearsed the following songs even as alts to round out the setlist: The Blues Shacklers If The World Oh My God Breakdown Move to The city Mama Kin Pretty Tied Up Think About You Perfect Crime Right Next Door To Hell Shotgun Blues Don't Cry (Alt.) Bad Obsession The Garden Edited August 3, 2021 by TOS--LOA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowOfTheWave Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 48 minutes ago, tsinindy said: "ALL NEW SHOW" at the 0:15 mark. The promoters took the advertisement from 2020 and recycled it, just changing the dates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 7 hours ago, jacdaniel said: This is actually an honest/legit question... before Covid I believe that these shows were getting marketed as an all new show? I know that was the case for the European shows at least that I have tickets for. I think all of us can see that this is still the exact same show. Which is fair enough if you didn't mention that it would be an all new show... But they did mention it, and then proceeded to play the same setlist in the exact same order as always. In a nutshell? They lied. Again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stress Fracture Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 The vast majority would have known it was a lie at the time. It had to be. They only have so many songs and they aren’t releasing any new ones. But they could have at least made it look different. That was the half-lie they were expected to live up to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Plans changed. The all new show was replaced with whatever it is we have now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnrs1972 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 The only good thing I've heard is that Wolfgang Van Halen is opening a lot of the shows. I'd be more interested in seeing him with new music than GNR $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ The only good thing I've heard is that Wolfgang Van Halen is opening a lot of the shows. I'd be more interested in seeing him with new music than GNR $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangoSkank Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 It was never going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jw224 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 It was just gonna be what it is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitchisback Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 A lot of the videos were new 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powderfinger Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) On 8/3/2021 at 2:42 AM, vloors said: The promotion was a all new Duff performance. And damn what a terrible song it is imo Great tune, but they’re doing a crap version of it. Check out the original, and put yourself in 1969... Edited August 5, 2021 by Powderfinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powderfinger Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 On 8/3/2021 at 12:44 PM, Bitchisback said: A lot of the videos were new I was gonna ask this... Least thing I care about but I did wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppetiteForDestruction Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 All new lol. Give me Shacklers, scraped, dust & bones, back off bitch, think about you, and oh my god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k12 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 technically not lying, I mean the shows are shortened versions of the previous tour it seems, before it seemed the shows were close to the 3 hour mark and this go around it seems like they are closer to the 2 Hour mark, technically not lying but I am sure not the "All New" show those had in mind if they were buying a ticket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double talkin jive mfkr Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 these headings i thought meant something but its meant for the stupid really. FUCK! its true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonah Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 Seems more like a skin and bones tour -shorter set -no pyro (not a bad thing but a little pyro is good) -stage is super basic (no ego ramp, no ramps around the drums) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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