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5 minutes ago, HollyWoodRose84 said:

Not an insider and never claimed to be one. Always hated those self serving individuals who want to take credit for posting shit..blah blah...blah..I’m just fortunate enough to be around some amazing company because of the work that I do and I’m in a trusted, close knit group where people talk. I got into trouble in 2016 when I specifically posted about the MetLife shows before they were announced so I pick and choose my battles now. 
 

 Honest to god this is how it went down last night. When Axl announced that Absurd was dropping at midnight both my friend and I looked at each other in shock because we were both told the first single was going to be Hardschool. Absurd, IMO was a horrible choice. However, maybe they are going to officially label Hardschool as the first “single” for the new album.There hasn’t been any mention of singles yet. They are just promoting this as a “new fn’ song” also cringeworthy.  And no, I don’t know the name but I think many of us know that “Reloaded” has been thrown around.
 

Regarding the album I, along with multiple others was told it was going to come out last year. The writing was all over the place. Hellen Keller could have seen it coming. COVID did indeed fuck that up. It’s been recorded and finished. Highly confident it’s this year. Am I saying I know for certain? No. But I’ll trust what I’m currently seeing and hearing. As always, let’s see what happens.  
 

And lastly, TB is god awfully abysmal as a management company for literally the biggest band in the world. 

I remember back in 2010/2011 Reloaded was a rumored title too, when we started learning the details about all the Azoff drama.

id be fine with that name. Generic, but passable.

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51 minutes ago, fantomas said:

I'm not asking for a rehash of AFD or UYI. I like it when bands evolve. Hell, two of my favorites are Nine Inch Nails and Faith No More, two bands who consistently reinvent themselves.

But Absurd doesn't feel like a reinvention, it's the same thing we've been hearing since 1999. If anything this is more of the same and it's from an era that the vast majority of fans view as a pretty major blip on their record. I like a lot of Chinese Democracy (TWAT, Street and Madagascar are epic) , but there's also a lot of crap on there. Much like UYI 1 and 2. I don't know if you were around in 2001, but Silkworms was crucified, and I mean CRUCIFIED by hardcore and casual fans. It was universally loathed. GnR hasn't had enough studio output to go off the rails so much. If they were putting out an album every two or three years, you could forgive a wobble. or two. God knows most bands have them. Axl treats studio releases almost with contempt. His attitude towards music and fans is the exact reason why the leaks became as popular as they did. Fans desperately wanted new music, myself included. But this desperation overshadowed the quality of the music.

The fact that this is the first new track we've heard since 2008, and that it's a rework of a hated song, shows the band just does not give a fuck. And when the band doesn't give a fuck, it's hard for the fans to. If I were still 18, maybe I'd still be impressed by their fuck you attitude. But I'm not. The music is alright, but the lyrics are infantile and embarrassing. Will I give a new album a chance? Certainly. I won't judge music I haven't heard. I actually really like Hard School. But I want to hear new collaborative ideas. I don't want Slash photoshopped on top of 20 year old songs that are best left forgotten. This isn't progress, this is treading water and Axl is laughing at us.

Not giving a fuck is the most GNR thing to be honest. That's one aspect what I like around the thing with the new song. 

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Just now, rocknroll41 said:

I remember back in 2010/2011 Reloaded was a rumored title too, when we started learning the details about all the Azoff drama.

id be fine with that name. Generic, but passable.

Exactly. I mean, it fits. Either that or they just call it “Guns N’ Roses”  What else would you call the new album? I remember that whole Legend of the Red Panda horse shit that was being thrown around.

 

Dealing with this band has aged me well beyond my years 

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Fuckin' love this song!!! What are the notable changes from Silkworms

Chorus change- used to be 'what can I do with a bitch like you' 

Are the rest of the lyrics the same?

Is this a complete re-recording or just the old version tinkered with a Slash solo, does anyone know?

This should have been on CD. Definitely ahead of Rhiad. 

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5 minutes ago, HollyWoodRose84 said:

Exactly. I mean, it fits. Either that or they just call it “Guns N’ Roses”  What else would you call the new album? I remember that whole Legend of the Red Panda horse shit that was being thrown around.

 

Dealing with this band has aged me well beyond my years 

Yeah I’d also be fine with self-titled or GnFnR or something.

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57 minutes ago, fantomas said:

I'm not asking for a rehash of AFD or UYI. I like it when bands evolve. Hell, two of my favorites are Nine Inch Nails and Faith No More, two bands who consistently reinvent themselves.

But Absurd doesn't feel like a reinvention, it's the same thing we've been hearing since 1999. If anything this is more of the same and it's from an era that the vast majority of fans view as a pretty major blip on their record. I like a lot of Chinese Democracy (TWAT, Street and Madagascar are epic) , but there's also a lot of crap on there. Much like UYI 1 and 2. I don't know if you were around in 2001, but Silkworms was crucified, and I mean CRUCIFIED by hardcore and casual fans. It was universally loathed. GnR hasn't had enough studio output to go off the rails so much. If they were putting out an album every two or three years, you could forgive a wobble. or two. God knows most bands have them. Axl treats studio releases almost with contempt. His attitude towards music and fans is the exact reason why the leaks became as popular as they did. Fans desperately wanted new music, myself included. But this desperation overshadowed the quality of the music.

The fact that this is the first new track we've heard since 2008, and that it's a rework of a hated song, shows the band just does not give a fuck. And when the band doesn't give a fuck, it's hard for the fans to. If I were still 18, maybe I'd still be impressed by their fuck you attitude. But I'm not. The music is alright, but the lyrics are infantile and embarrassing. Will I give a new album a chance? Certainly. I won't judge music I haven't heard. I actually really like Hard School. But I want to hear new collaborative ideas. I don't want Slash photoshopped on top of 20 year old songs that are best left forgotten. This isn't progress, this is treading water and Axl is laughing at us.

Couldn't have said it better myself. They don't give a fuck. None of them.

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16 minutes ago, HollyWoodRose84 said:

Not an insider and never claimed to be one. Always hated those self serving individuals who want to take credit for posting shit..blah blah...blah..I’m just fortunate enough to be around some amazing company because of the work that I do and I’m in a trusted, close knit group where people talk. I got into trouble in 2016 when I specifically posted about the MetLife shows before they were announced so I pick and choose my battles now. 
 

 Honest to god this is how it went down last night. When Axl announced that Absurd was dropping at midnight both my friend and I looked at each other in shock because we were both told the first single was going to be Hardschool. Absurd, IMO was a horrible choice. However, maybe they are going to officially label Hardschool as the first “single” for the new album.There hasn’t been any mention of singles yet. They are just promoting this as a “new fn’ song” also cringeworthy.  And no, I don’t know the name but I think many of us know that “Reloaded” has been thrown around.
 

Regarding the album I, along with multiple others was told it was going to come out last year. The writing was all over the place. Hellen Keller could have seen it coming. COVID did indeed fuck that up. It’s been recorded and finished. Highly confident it’s this year. Am I saying I know for certain? No. But I’ll trust what I’m currently seeing and hearing. As always, let’s see what happens.  
 

And lastly, TB is god awfully abysmal as a management company for literally the biggest band in the world. 

Love reading shit like this. Thank you

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This song is mixed like absolute dogshit, I blamed it on youtube, then got the iTunes version.. (which you can't find with the song name easily because the R is backwards.. really) It seems Axl is out of time too, which might be artistic choice... but the wrong one.

The bass sounds like ass.

 

Did Fernando mix this...?

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In all sincerity, regardless of how bad I think it is, Guns releasing this song as their first song with Slash and Axl together in however many years it’s been is the most punk thing they’ve done in a long time.  It’s a huge Fuck You because they know damn well it’s waaaaaaaaay beyond the norm for what people would have expected.  
 

I think it’s safe to say the reworked Hardschool (sorry I can’t bring myself to type it with the K” will fare better with the general public. 

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13 minutes ago, NEU-YORK said:

Fuckin' love this song!!! What are the notable changes from Silkworms

Chorus change- used to be 'what can I do with a bitch like you' 

Are the rest of the lyrics the same?

Is this a complete re-recording or just the old version tinkered with a Slash solo, does anyone know?

This should have been on CD. Definitely ahead of Rhiad. 

This is all fuck you to Pittman , shouldn't have used samples on rhiad 🤣

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So as others have pointed out here already, Absurd was released as an internet single, but not as a physical single or a radio single. So my guess is HardSkool will still be the first “real” single sent to radio and it’ll get a physical release with Absurd as the b-side. This is exactly how they handled Shackler’s and the title track of ChiDem. Shackler’s came out first exclusively on rock band 2 with no album announcement whatsoever. Then a few weeks later ChiDem (the song) followed and was sent to radio and given a physical release with Shackler’s as the b-side (in some markets) and was tied directly into an album announcement.

We’re in the endgame now…

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This isn’t a “single” because it’s beyond radio airplay. The pure vulgarity of the song goes against commercial marketability.

Honestly, if I had to guess, I think Axl sat Slash and Duff down, had them listen to the majority of the Chinese material and asked them which ones they responded to…as out and out “rockers,” it only makes sense to me that they chose a song with a pure rock vibe to it. In other words - I bet Slash and Duff helped select this song because they know that people expect “rockers” from them and not mid-tempo ballads.

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2 hours ago, RussTCB said:

I absolutely hated OMG for years. Somewhere along the line it clicked and became one of my favorite GN'R songs. 

Yeah. I hated it bad at first too. I couldn't accept that it sounded different to the rest. I guess time moves on and you realise it's the bands who never change that suck. 

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