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13 minutes ago, jafeijo said:

 

I'm VERY anxious to see how Atlas would sound with Slash and this sound design. It's my favourite from the leaks.

Yeah it just sucks though because Brian May's solo is awesome and would love to have it still on the official release

13 minutes ago, fantomas said:

Going crude is simply lazy and it's writing for a juvenile audience. 16 year old me loved get in the ring in 91. Now I just cringe at it. We all know Axl can write quality lyrics. Absurd lyrics are just half assed.

The music is there, all it needed was better words. 

I understand that. I just don't care about the "offensive to women" bullshit so many people keep going on about

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14 minutes ago, fantomas said:

Going crude is simply lazy and it's writing for a juvenile audience. 16 year old me loved get in the ring in 91. Now I just cringe at it. We all know Axl can write quality lyrics. Absurd lyrics are just half assed.

The music is there, all it needed was better words.

There was a review for the UYIs I read once that made a great point that touches on this.

The review reflected on WTTJ's writing sensibilities with its line; feel my serpentine

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Get in the ring: **** you, suck my ******** dick

(and I actually prefer the UYIs over AFD, but I've always loved the point made here)

 

 

 

Edit:  Also, I was not aware that Brian May was on Atlas

 

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Just now, 2020_Intensions said:

Yeah it just sucks though because Brian May's solo is awesome and would love to have it still on the official release

If Brian May is cut for the second time I'll need to have a chat with Mr. Taco Bell. That early Catcher with May was something else!

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1 minute ago, SoulMonster said:

The thing that must be frustrating to those who actually are kind of on the inside, is that any tentative plans they hear about are likely to not pan out anyway :lol: It must be the worst band to try to be an insider of.

Eddie Trunk's still waiting in the lobby for the 3hr meeting to begin to start determining at what point in time would be the most suitable for his interview. :lol:

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I've always felt CITR is a fantastic song and one of Axl's best from a songwriting perspective.  This might not be the thread for it, but ChiDem has some fantastic songs on it (IMO) and I wonder if it just wasn't ever given a chance due to the circumstances around it (the GN'R name, the time it took to make and the expectations that brought, people mainly wanting at the very least Slash back)

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2 minutes ago, WhazUp said:

One thing I think most of us can agree on even if the views on the song itself are split... isn't Slashs guitar tone on the riffs and especially leads great!?  The tone of the solos to me sound very similar to the vibe he went for on the solo work on TSI? and SFTD

Yes, I love Slash's sound on this.  With all respect to Axl, if Axl's lyrics were a bit more reigned in here, this could be much more than a "lol, Axl sure loves to give people the middle finger" sort of song.  I like the song.  I liked it as Silkworms.  But this feels like a "joke" song to me and I think it could have been more than that.

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1 minute ago, Caught_in_a_Coma said:

Yes, I love Slash's sound on this.  With all respect to Axl, if Axl's lyrics were a bit more reigned in here, this could be much more than a "lol, Axl sure loves to give people the middle finger" sort of song.

I totally agree!  I am genuinely very pleased with how the guitars turned out here and think that with a better song, can have a great mix of Axl's CD-era style with enough of the GNR guitar sound sorely missing the past 20 years to create a nice bridge between GNR eras

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The Catcher demo is hands down my favorite song on ‘chinese’ , it had the most powerful and heartfelt magic and soul since Axl did November Rain, he has these songs in him that are beautifully constructed and with his voice and soul are pieces of art come to life, we all knew Axl was a different kind of performer and that’s why we love him 🤘

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1 minute ago, tony adler said:

The Catcher demo is hands down my favorite song on ‘chinese’ , it had the most powerful and heartfelt magic and soul since Axl did November Rain, he has these songs in him that are beautifully constructed and with his voice and soul are pieces of art come to life, we all knew Axl was a different kind of performer and that’s why we love him 🤘

Sorry back on topic, I love the soft Axl voice on the breakdown , it goes from super hard and filthy to Angelic and it just works

 

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12 minutes ago, WhazUp said:

One thing I think most of us can agree on even if the views on the song itself are split... isn't Slashs guitar tone on the riffs and especially leads great!?  The tone of the solos to me sound very similar to the vibe he went for on the solo work on TSI? and SFTD

His lead tone is classic, would have prefered if he used a tone similar to what he used on "Nothing to Say" i.e. more distortion

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I have no problems with the lyrics. Not saying they are great, just that there is a place for venom and aggressiveness in arts. Most people have at times, even fleetingly, felt similar emotions to another person. It's just the musical manifestation of that feeling. There are entire bands and genres of music devoted to the same aggressive, abrasive emotions. Not every lyrics can be trying to portray a story reflecting on the true nature of humanity, but in a way these lyrics actually and ironically do. Again, they are not great lyrics in the sense that most people couldn't have come up with similarly ranting rhymes, but they work in conveying a believable emotion. 

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4 hours ago, CAFC Nick said:

Not sure if this has been mentioned in the 51 pages (:P) but that is definitely Frank on drums, regardless of comms saying it’s Brain. That ‘thud’ of the bass drum is clearly Frank’s (listen to IRS from CD compared to any leak)

It's Brain on the drums. That's been confirmed by so many official sources already..., 

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Wonder what TB are making of this board right now. 
Some of you have downed the Kool Aid. 

It’s garbage and it HAS to be a statement to Pittman. He was to be involved originally and not Mellisa until his drunken tweet about the band.

https://loudwire.com/guns-n-roses-chris-pitman-apologizes-reunion-tour-money-grab/

He was fired prior to the Coachella shows, he pissed them all off obviously and not just Axl. 
 

He also sued Axl and got money from it, less than $163,000 it says.

https://loudwire.com/axl-rose-settles-lawsuit-guns-n-roses-instrumentalist-chris-pitman/

They’re probably laughing at the cash they paid as opposed to the cash made. They’ve made that $163,000 back no problem on this track. It just has to be a pisstake as opposed to something that could make an Album. 
 


 

 

 

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The lyrics were written by Axl? If so, who is the person or persons it was originally intended? One would think those negative feelings might go away over the years. But instead he still thinks this is a "song that should be heard". And it's just about what a terrible person somebody else is. Kinda wish he had gotten over whatever caused those feelings by now.

Of course it's possible he doesn't think like this anymore and they put this out there just because so much money and players have been put into it that it makes sense to try to get some money out of it still.

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1 minute ago, weaponsnflowers said:

The lyrics were written by Axl? If so, who is the person or persons it was originally intended? One would think those negative feelings might go away over the years. But instead he still thinks this is a "song that should be heard". And it's just about what a terrible person somebody else is. Kinda wish he had gotten over whatever caused those feelings by now.

Of course it's possible he doesn't think like this anymore and they put this out there just because so much money and players have been put into it that it makes sense to try to get some money out of it still.

Impossible to say if Axl feel the same way about a person today, and it could be the lyrics are not about a specific person, either, but an amalgam of people as for some other of his lyrics. Or maybe it isn't really about a person or persons at all but more about the feelings conveyed and a person is just used as a lyrical vehicle to get those emotions out. Or it could all be about Stephanie. It is all speculation until Axl decides to say anything.

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1 minute ago, SoulMonster said:

Impossible to say if Axl feel the same way about a person today, and it could be the lyrics are not about a specific person, either, but an amalgam of people as for some other of his lyrics. Or maybe it isn't really about a person or persons at all but more about the feelings conveyed and a person is just used as a lyrical vehicle to get those emotions out. Or it could all be about Stephanie. It is all speculation until Axl decides to say anything.

Sure, and he did say on an interview that he doesn't want people to think that this song is about that person and that song is about this person anymore, rather that the listener takes it for whatever. Which I can understand, it's just that his turmoils have been so public, it makes you wonder who is he pissed now and so on. 

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I like what they did. They released music. That's good. They released something polarizing which made people talk about. That's good.

It would be awesome if they did this with music that awes the people because of the musics quality as well as its controversy.

As long as they release more music shortly, more music with quality they have proven they're able to, I'm ok with it. Otherwise it's not a smart move IMO.

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