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I've been following this website since 2015 and never actually had an account, always as a guest, but with everything that's going on right now.... at least in my experience ... this is crazy as fuck, surreal.

I heard the latest leak before this release, in late 2019, the one with the Bumblefoot parts, and man i actually liked it, maybe because I'm more heavy metal or even brutal metal genres-leaned, so the lyrics weren't really a problem, I thought it was fun, downloaded it and heard it regularly, then the pandemic happened and you know.....

But since two weeks ago with the comeback after the virus and the hype about Hard School I started to listen to the CD2 stuff again and this time I got obsessed with Silkworms, I was playing it every other hour.

Guys I know that for the mainstream listener, average Gnr fan, and even die hard fans this song is probably a huge pile of steaming shit, and if it is for you, and you are disappointed, well I do understand you, I guess at least we got something officially "New" for the first time in years.....but again if it's shit to you, I get that. 

Now following the previous, literally last week I showed this to my brother (non metal/rock listener) and I warned him: "dude this might sound like shit to you and it maybe is, but you have to listen to this forgotten GnR song that you'll never listen in your life again, haha" - 7 days later here we are ... man wtf is even happening right now?? Doesn't feel real, the song that I was 15 days ago plugging my earphones, on the street, ready to listen to... and then I was like... oh shit, right, it's an illegal leak, I have to download the mp3 on each device... now, that song is getting attention and covering on mainstream media-press, average rock fans and random people all over the world are listening to this now 15 days later hahaha, what the fuck man. Ok maybe nobody cares, cause we've all listened to it at some point but god fucking damn what a weird coincidence... it could've been any CD2 song, more Slash-fitting. 

Fun fact: maybe this is obvious and maybe it is all over the forum, however, I've only seen a few people asking this here, and I've just got in, so I've read people on social media and many headlines saying that the instrumental part has been completely reworked, now, the intro could be Fortus but that sound doesn't match with his tone and definitely doesn't match with his recent gear, and .. as of this moment he hasn't even shared it on IG, as a guitar player myself and having listened to the demos 120 million times I will say that the intro is actually Buckethead's killswitch lick, (guitar signal-off effect button, ex: Better, ChinDem, TWAT, etc..) so even if you knew that already, think of it this way:  for the CD era-guitar-fanatics and for the people that used to be into "Slash vs Buckethead" this is actually the ultimate crossover lol, he is not credited as a solo artist like Brain but credited as a whole along with Pitman in "Music by: Guns N' Roses", I don't know, but it is his part. 

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I think the lyrics are so over the top that you can't really be offended by them. I think real misogyny is more subtle than that. Or rooted in real life actions, phrases and structures. There's stuff on Appetite songs that are lot worse. 

I mean, call someone "a syphilistic priestess" and they'll probably look you funny, but in the end laugh you of.

Say "turn around, bitch, I got use for you" and that's just... wrong.

Disclaimer: I'm not personally offended by any Gn'R lyrics. It's all art and we shouldn't censor it nor should artists censor themselves. Though, we can and should boycott art that we don't want to consume. 

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12 hours ago, Gunsdrummer63 said:

I heard it at Fenway and was left shocked and had no clue what to think. Came home listened on YouTube and finally heard more of the lyrics and was left even more shocked

i listened at release last night and it grew on me. Especially brains drumming. Dudes a monster on drums. No way Adler could play this with the same feel. It really drives the song 

whoever is playing bass has some awesome leads added in. Bass tone in general is great and also drives the song 

 

some stuff guitar wise fits. The end kinda just cuts out awkwardly and doesn’t “finish”. The first solo goes over the lyrics by about a beat. 
 

listened in my car on the way to work at 7 am and was half asleep, certainly woke me up!

 

listened again on the way home and was left with a “it’s not terrible but I wonder how many times I skip it on shuffle in a few weeks”. It’s certainly grown on me tho 


It’s a great song live. I bet festival crowds in Europe go nuts over how heavy it is being a rock. 
 

the only questions I have are who for sure is on guitar (and what parts), and who’s on bass. I also kinda wonder what Izzy is thinking right about now. I’m sure he heard the original at some point 

Duff is on bass. The drums are definitely quantized/gridded (as standard in most modern music).

12 hours ago, HollyWoodRose84 said:

Not an insider and never claimed to be one. Always hated those self serving individuals who want to take credit for posting shit..blah blah...blah..I’m just fortunate enough to be around some amazing company because of the work that I do and I’m in a trusted, close knit group where people talk. I got into trouble in 2016 when I specifically posted about the MetLife shows before they were announced so I pick and choose my battles now. 
 

 Honest to god this is how it went down last night. When Axl announced that Absurd was dropping at midnight both my friend and I looked at each other in shock because we were both told the first single was going to be Hardschool. Absurd, IMO was a horrible choice. However, maybe they are going to officially label Hardschool as the first “single” for the new album.There hasn’t been any mention of singles yet. They are just promoting this as a “new fn’ song” also cringeworthy.  And no, I don’t know the name but I think many of us know that “Reloaded” has been thrown around.
 

Regarding the album I, along with multiple others was told it was going to come out last year. The writing was all over the place. Hellen Keller could have seen it coming. COVID did indeed fuck that up. It’s been recorded and finished. Highly confident it’s this year. Am I saying I know for certain? No. But I’ll trust what I’m currently seeing and hearing. As always, let’s see what happens.  
 

And lastly, TB is god awfully abysmal as a management company for literally the biggest band in the world. 

Thanks for sharing. Any idea is there's going to be some all new original songs on the album too?

10 hours ago, Tadsy said:

If this is the level that a potential new album would be at, then I really hope they never release another thing. 

the song itself has very few redeeming features. For those who like it, seek help. 
If this song was released by another band and not GNR the response would probably be overwhelmingly “WTF”. 
the lyrics are poor, as others have stated, pussy full of maggots” surely axl has/had something better to roll out than this crap. 
as others have said, a song like crash diet at least had more potential to be reworked than this pile of garbage. 

the thing that still makes no sense is, slash has been forever telling us he works on riffs for GNR, you can’t tell me he hasn’t got at least one catchy riff that could be worked into a NEW song with new lyrics? 
I really don’t understand why the band continues to work with and release old songs that were deemed not good enough back in the day? 
 

are they really that devoid of new ideas? 

Just because they released this doesn't mean there's not any brand new stuff coming. Let's wait and see what happens.

8 hours ago, Ak1nney said:

I agree that the middle quiet part isn't good. A really awesome bridge would have helped a song that has no real chorus.

Yeah I agree. That's really my only complaint with the song, the quiet part. It breaks up the momentum.

7 hours ago, Arnuld said:

Here’s the bottom line- Guns N Roses officially released a song. They actually officially released a song. And God willing this means more is coming (Hard Skool at least) Like Absurd or hate Absurd whatever. We are moving in the right direction for the first time in 13 years. 

Yes 100%

2 hours ago, Gibbo said:

It's a bit wierd fortus hasn't shared it on Instagram or FB maybe he's not on it 

He's not on it, it's all Slash.

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Original members who returned five years ago, grafting frankenstein parts onto a twenty year old song , with a twenty year old original vocal track; a song which wasn't good enough to hack it on an album which came out thirteen years ago.   

What a steaming chimera of uninspired.

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5 minutes ago, oneway23 said:

Original members who returned five years ago, grafting frankenstein parts onto a twenty year old song , with a twenty year old original vocal track; a song which wasn't good enough to hack it on an album which came out thirteen years ago.   

What a steaming chimera of uninspired.

Just because a song doesn't make it onto an album it doesn't mean it wasn't good enough. Shadow Of Your Love is objectively superior to at least 4-5 AFD cuts but didn't make the final tracklist. Hell, even YCBM and Nov Rain didn't make the cut on Appetite.

 And I would take Absurd/Silkworms over half of what's on Chinese tbh.

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12 minutes ago, oneway23 said:

Original members who returned five years ago, grafting frankenstein parts onto a twenty year old song , with a twenty year old original vocal track; a song which wasn't good enough to hack it on an album which came out thirteen years ago.   

What a steaming chimera of uninspired.

Chinese was supposed to be a triple album. Axl was never gonna put all the great stuff on CD and then release shitty stuff on CD II and III. This is backed up by the fact that songs like Perhaps and Soul Monster were not included. 

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They just talked about it on german radio. Said they are going to play it alot and then on Monday talk about it. "Oh god, please don't" was my reaction.

That's the bad thing about not releasing Hard Skkkool as the first single: If you're not Michael Jackson or Taylor Swift nobody will care about the second single. So the first impression for the world of new-old-new GNR will be Absurd. Oh, well. At least until now the reviews were positive so I guess the song isn't as bad as I think.

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12 minutes ago, Towelie said:

Just because a song doesn't make it onto an album it doesn't mean it wasn't good enough. Shadow Of Your Love is objectively superior to at least 4-5 AFD cuts but didn't make the final tracklist. Hell, even YCBM and Nov Rain didn't make the cut on Appetite.

 And I would take Absurd/Silkworms over half of what's on Chinese tbh.

That can indeed be true, in many cases.  In this particular instance, however, and, in my opinion, it wasn't good enough then, and it's certainly not good enough to carry the flag as the first "original" song by the legacy band members in thirty years now.

 

Thanks for adding your unprompted thoughts on Chinese to my opinion of this song, though.  Next time I'll ring you before I give my subjective opinion so I can accept notes.

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4 minutes ago, oneway23 said:

That can indeed be true, in many cases.  In this particular instance, however, and, in my opinion, it wasn't good enough then, and it's certainly not good enough to carry the flag as the first "original" song by the legacy band members in thirty years now.

 

Thanks for adding your unprompted thoughts on Chinese to my opinion of this song, though.  Next time I'll ring you before I give my subjective opinion so I can accept notes.

Meeeooow.

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37 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

Idk about that part, but the rest of the song is all him. Left and right rhythm tracks and the solos.

Fortus plays some of the solos live. Wouldn't that mean the he also played them in the studio? 

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26 minutes ago, Towelie said:

How do you know? Fortus plays some of the lead when they do it live.

 

Just now, Sosso said:

Fortus plays some of the solos live. Wouldn't that mean the he also played them in the studio? 

Listen to it, it's pretty clear it's all Slash (including the left rhythm guitar). Like for instance at 1:10 on the left side he does that thing where he taps on the high strings with the pick. The tone and mannerisms of the playing is 100% him. I guess they switch off on the solos live so that it flows better or something.

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21 minutes ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

Chinese was supposed to be a triple album. Axl was never gonna put all the great stuff on CD and then release shitty stuff on CD II and III. This is backed up by the fact that songs like Perhaps and Soul Monster were not included. 

Perhaps it's because it's early here in NY, or, maybe it's because I haven't yet had coffee, but, either way, I fail to see your point here.

Axl had GREAT unfinished stuff left over for multiple releases, that much is true.  It's likely, much like many other albums, that these nonexistent, hypothetical, future releases may have contained some combination of (hopefully) great songs, a few good ones, and, well, maybe some others which were, let's say, less than good?

None of this changes the fact the Silkworms simply wasn't worthy of a release, in my opinion, at any point over the past two decades, and certainly not as the first taste of "new" studio music from the "reunited" Guns N' Roses . 

The basic structure, the fundamental "bones" of a song, the core arrangement upon which you hang all of the other bells and whistles, is simply not that strong.

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