Jump to content

ABSUЯD Single released at midnight


Recommended Posts

11 minutes ago, TheGeneral said:

They just talked about it on german radio. Said they are going to play it alot and then on Monday talk about it. "Oh god, please don't" was my reaction.

That's the bad thing about not releasing Hard Skkkool as the first single: If you're not Michael Jackson or Taylor Swift nobody will care about the second single. So the first impression for the world of new-old-new GNR will be Absurd. Oh, well. At least until now the reviews were positive so I guess the song isn't as bad as I think.

Exactly, I keep saying they should have started with Hard School and made a proper video for it. It wouldn’t have to be too laborious – if they just patched together some of that goddamn 30-second clips they keep feeding us with on Facebook, it could pass off as sufficient and above all, the song is levels better than Absurd Silkworms. Again, crying out for logic in the world of GN’R is… Remember what that Vogon guard said? "Resistance is futile."

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, metalavenger99 said:

I've been following this website since 2015 and never actually had an account, always as a guest, but with everything that's going on right now.... at least in my experience ... this is crazy as fuck, surreal.

I heard the latest leak before this release, in late 2019, the one with the Bumblefoot parts, and man i actually liked it, maybe because I'm more heavy metal or even brutal metal genres-leaned, so the lyrics weren't really a problem, I thought it was fun, downloaded it and heard it regularly, then the pandemic happened and you know.....

But since two weeks ago with the comeback after the virus and the hype about Hard School I started to listen to the CD2 stuff again and this time I got obsessed with Silkworms, I was playing it every other hour.

Guys I know that for the mainstream listener, average Gnr fan, and even die hard fans this song is probably a huge pile of steaming shit, and if it is for you, and you are disappointed, well I do understand you, I guess at least we got something officially "New" for the first time in years.....but again if it's shit to you, I get that. 

Now following the previous, literally last week I showed this to my brother (non metal/rock listener) and I warned him: "dude this might sound like shit to you and it maybe is, but you have to listen to this forgotten GnR song that you'll never listen in your life again, haha" - 7 days later here we are ... man wtf is even happening right now?? Doesn't feel real, the song that I was 15 days ago plugging my earphones, on the street, ready to listen to... and then I was like... oh shit, right, it's an illegal leak, I have to download the mp3 on each device... now, that song is getting attention and covering on mainstream media-press, average rock fans and random people all over the world are listening to this now 15 days later hahaha, what the fuck man. Ok maybe nobody cares, cause we've all listened to it at some point but god fucking damn what a weird coincidence... it could've been any CD2 song, more Slash-fitting. 

Fun fact: maybe this is obvious and maybe it is all over the forum, however, I've only seen a few people asking this here, and I've just got in, so I've read people on social media and many headlines saying that the instrumental part has been completely reworked, now, the intro could be Fortus but that sound doesn't match with his tone and definitely doesn't match with his recent gear, and .. as of this moment he hasn't even shared it on IG, as a guitar player myself and having listened to the demos 120 million times I will say that the intro is actually Buckethead's killswitch lick, (guitar signal-off effect button, ex: Better, ChinDem, TWAT, etc..) so even if you knew that already, think of it this way:  for the CD era-guitar-fanatics and for the people that used to be into "Slash vs Buckethead" this is actually the ultimate crossover lol, he is not credited as a solo artist like Brain but credited as a whole along with Pitman in "Music by: Guns N' Roses", I don't know, but it is his part. 

Welcome to the forum :)

  • Thanks 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, SoulMonster said:

Attacking one woman is as misogynistic as attacking one black man is racist. Misogeny is the systematic contemp for women, a devaluation of a sex, not simply disliking one person who happens to be a woman. If we are going to use the misogyny card every time someone expresses anger at a woman, regardless of how abrasive or vulgar that is, we depower the term misogyny to a point where it becomes impotent while we at the same time raise women on a pedestal where they individually become sacrosanct. The same goes for people of other ethnicities, religions and lifestyles. 

I agree.

  • Like 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, oneway23 said:

Perhaps it's because it's early here in NY, or, maybe it's because I haven't yet had coffee, but, either way, I fail to see your point here.

Axl had GREAT unfinished stuff left over for multiple releases, that much is true.  It's likely, much like many other albums, that these nonexistent, hypothetical, future releases may have contained some combination of (hopefully) great, good, and, well, maybe some songs which were, let's say, less than good.

 

None of this changes the fact the Silkworms simply wasn't worthy of a release, in my opinion, at any point over the past two decades, and certainly not as the first taste of "new" studio music from the "reunited" Guns N' Roses .  The basic structure, the fundamental "bones" of a song, the core arrangement upon which you hang all of the other bells and whistles, is simply not that strong.

Your point was that Silkworms wasn't good enough to be put on CD 13 years ago. I'm saying that's definitely not why it wasn't put on CD. All the evidence you need for that is that he's also had much better songs that he didn't put on CD. It simply wasn't put on CD because Axl didn't want to release it then. That's all. Back in 2013, 5 years after CD, he said he was still excited about Silkworms, and that it was gonna be on the next album. He obviously likes this song a lot, he's hung onto it for 20 years now and never gave up on it.

Whether it's good or not is up for debate, criticizing a persons artistic choices is dumb IMO. Personally all I can say is I believe it's more of a statement song than one that is supposed to impress you with its musicality. Those will probably come later. My guess is Axl realizes putting out a regular rock song like Hard School is boring for him, he's got nothing to prove and just likes to do what he wants, and this is exactly the music he wants to release.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 minutes ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

Your point was that Silkworms wasn't good enough to be put on CD 13 years ago. I'm saying that's definitely not why it wasn't put on CD. All the evidence you need for that is that he's also had much better songs that he didn't put on CD. It simply wasn't put on CD because Axl didn't want to release it then. That's all. Back in 2013, 5 years after CD, he said he was still excited about Silkworms, and that it was gonna be on the next album. He obviously likes this song a lot, he's hung onto it for 20 years now and never gave up on it.

Whether it's good or not is up for debate, criticizing a persons artistic choices is dumb IMO. Personally all I can say is I believe it's more of a statement song than one that is supposed to impress you with its musicality. Those will probably come later. My guess is Axl realizes putting out a regular rock song like Hard School is boring for him, he's got nothing to prove and just likes to do what he wants, and this is exactly the music he wants to release.

A statement song, eh?  You got it, bub.

Let's see what else they've got in store.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'd be lying if I said I was over the moon with the choice of first single. It's been reworked, but it's still Silkworms, and still just a bit shit.

 

However, it's still new(ish) music and I have faith better stuff is on the way.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

37 minutes ago, StrangerInThisTown said:

 It simply wasn't put on CD because Axl didn't want to release it then. That's all. 

So why was it on CD back in 2000? The record company didnt want Silkworms on the comeback album, thats why it wasnt on CD. Im sure Axl likes Silkworms/absurd, so does I to some degree.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 8/6/2021 at 9:34 AM, Higson95 said:

Annoys me that Brain is on drums.... why can't it be a current line up effort instead of using a 20 year old drum and vocal track? Van Halen made tracks like "She's a woman" sound FRESH by recording it new despite it being a shelved track. Guarantee you the album will be Silkworms, Oh my God, Hardschool and then all the leaks with new guitar and bass

Because he's the best drummer GNR had.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, rumandraisin said:

It's on rough mixes disc one, in what way does that indicate it was gonna be on the album

I have always assumed that disc 1 was intendend to be released as the first album, since all the songs on disc 1 was 100% done and Most of them was played live. 

 

but perhaps I was wrong...

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Towelie said:

Just because a song doesn't make it onto an album it doesn't mean it wasn't good enough. Shadow Of Your Love is objectively superior to at least 4-5 AFD cuts but didn't make the final tracklist. Hell, even YCBM and Nov Rain didn't make the cut on Appetite.

 And I would take Absurd/Silkworms over half of what's on Chinese tbh.

Shadow is objectively superior to 4-5 AFD songs? Which fucking ones? I only count 1…maybe

Link to comment
Share on other sites

25 minutes ago, jettesnel said:

I have always assumed that disc 1 was intendend to be released as the first album, since all the songs on disc 1 was 100% done and Most of them was played live. 

 

but perhaps I was wrong...

 

I've seen a few people with the same idea, I don't buy it I think it's just a selection of songs put on a disc that they were focusing on as priority or the big guns. But then irs isn't on the disc, along with a few others spread over the discs. 

Edited by rumandraisin
  • Like 1
  • GNFNR 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yeaaah... 13 years to release reworked Silkworms as a first single of an album that might be coming at some time, maybe. Not the best marketing department, I'd say... :shrugs:

 

  • Like 1
  • ABSUЯD 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

After listening the shit out of this absurd single I tend to believe it was put together very quickly. The guitar-takes have some timing issues (chorus, right track for example, also main riff is not really tight), the lead-work seems to be improvised by a large part, since especially the first lead-passage in the chorus is such a typical widely used pentatonic pattern that I think it just must be some kind of a placeholder. The guitar-sound is pretty muddy overall, as if the takes originated from demo-sessions. 

These can still be artistic choices, I don't wanna rule that out.

While I think it's fucking awesome that it was released for obvious reasons, it still makes me wonder what the motivation behind it really was/is. You just never know what these fuckers are up to.

VID-20210806-WA0005.gif.ca3f69c5c1bcd7d4794c9f8193adb662.gif

Edited by Nesret
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, SoulMonster said:

I have no problems with the lyrics. Not saying they are great, just that there is a place for venom and aggressiveness in arts. Most people have at times, even fleetingly, felt similar emotions to another person. It's just the musical manifestation of that feeling. There are entire bands and genres of music devoted to the same aggressive, abrasive emotions. Not every lyrics can be trying to portray a story reflecting on the true nature of humanity, but in a way these lyrics actually and ironically do. Again, they are not great lyrics in the sense that most people couldn't have come up with similarly ranting rhymes, but they work in conveying a believable emotion. 

Well said. “Absurd (SW)” has always had a Charles Baudelaire-vibe to it IMHO. In fact, wouldn’t surprise me (though to be clear- have no idea) if Axl was reading a lot of Baudelaire in the late 90s. It’s almost as if “Absurd (SW)”’s “TIL”’s evil twin brother. If one side of emotion is worthy of expression- why not the other? 

Now “strategically” is it the best move? Admittedly, have to wonder. Baudelaire wasn’t well-received- at least initially- and this may well not be either- particularly in the current environment. There’s something very G N’ R Lies IMHO about putting it out there anyway though. Hopefully, there’s a “Patience”-level track coming along too to uphold the whole effort.

  • Like 1
  • GNFNR 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, TheGeneral said:

They just talked about it on german radio. Said they are going to play it alot and then on Monday talk about it. "Oh god, please don't" was my reaction.

That's the bad thing about not releasing Hard Skkkool as the first single: If you're not Michael Jackson or Taylor Swift nobody will care about the second single. So the first impression for the world of new-old-new GNR will be Absurd. Oh, well. At least until now the reviews were positive so I guess the song isn't as bad as I think.

 

Funny that you say this. Appetite For Destruction was not a huge hit until a later single was released (Sweet Child O' Mine). Welcome To The Jungle did not go Top 10 on the charts until it was re-released after Sweet Child's massive success. Axl joked years ago in a radio interview that they kept ramming Jungle down the public's throat with re-releases until it finally stuck. 

I am going to take a different approach here. First of all, Absurd is clearly a joke release by Axl. It's a hell of a troll job. Imagine if "My World" was released as a single in 1991. He's creating some polarized buzz with this Absurd release. He's also setting extremely low expectations. People are going to love the hell out of Hard School or whatever else comes after this Absurd song, haha 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

16 hours ago, HollyWoodRose84 said:

Not an insider and never claimed to be one. Always hated those self serving individuals who want to take credit for posting shit..blah blah...blah..I’m just fortunate enough to be around some amazing company because of the work that I do and I’m in a trusted, close knit group where people talk. I got into trouble in 2016 when I specifically posted about the MetLife shows before they were announced so I pick and choose my battles now. 
 

 Honest to god this is how it went down last night. When Axl announced that Absurd was dropping at midnight both my friend and I looked at each other in shock because we were both told the first single was going to be Hardschool. Absurd, IMO was a horrible choice. However, maybe they are going to officially label Hardschool as the first “single” for the new album.There hasn’t been any mention of singles yet. They are just promoting this as a “new fn’ song” also cringeworthy.  And no, I don’t know the name but I think many of us know that “Reloaded” has been thrown around.
 

Regarding the album I, along with multiple others was told it was going to come out last year. The writing was all over the place. Hellen Keller could have seen it coming. COVID did indeed fuck that up. It’s been recorded and finished. Highly confident it’s this year. Am I saying I know for certain? No. But I’ll trust what I’m currently seeing and hearing. As always, let’s see what happens.  
 

And lastly, TB is god awfully abysmal as a management company for literally the biggest band in the world. 

Maybe just the way I’m interpreting it - but what do you mean ‘all over the place’….that means from where I’m from it’s a total mess!

But it could also mean the styles are varied….or they were writing at various places/locations?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...