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1 hour ago, oneway23 said:

Russ, I'm glad someone brought this up, because I've been thinking about that a lot this morning.  Fantastic album; honestly should have gotten infinitely more attention than it did.  For any fan of hard rock, please do yourself a favor and check it out.  I can put that on at any time over the past nine years, and it still blows me away.

 

That said, for me, the direct comparison doesn't hold, and, I'll tell you why:  For all the talk about Diamond Dave's vocals, brothaman re-recorded everything contemporaneously; he didn't use the vocal takes from the 1978 Gene Simmons demos.  In many cases, he wrote all new lyrics.  In other words, he put the damn work in.

Same for the band.  All fresh recordings, new arrangements, in some cases, and, most importantly, a few brand-new tunes sprinkled in.

Forget Absurd.  Gettin' heated all over again to blast that album...smokes!

 

Some of the best playing of Ed & Alex's career

I still haven't properly checked out that album.. Not for any reason... I have liked the few songs I heard.. Even Tattoo which people seem to hate. I think it is great.

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I might be the only one on this one but I was jamming out to Oh My God this morning on my way to work and I definitely wouldn't mind that song getting re worked with Duff and Slash on it and re release it with another new song also. I've always thought that was a kickass tune.

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They may disagree with each other in the past but a lot can change 25 years later. All of them are in a different stage of their careers compared to back then. Slash and Duff have released so many records between the time of leaving and rejoining GNR. Just because Slash was not keen on the direction Axl wanted GNR to go back then, doesn't mean he's not up to try them now.

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2 minutes ago, Packersfan#4#12 said:

I might be the only one on this one but I was jamming out to Oh My God this morning on my way to work and I definitely wouldn't mind that song getting re worked with Duff and Slash on it and re release it with another new song also. I've always thought that was a kickass tune.

I like OMG as it is, but wouldn't mind a slower take that Axl could actually sing without gasping for breathe, as he was already struggling with that song when he was 20 years younger! Those lyrics are some of his best work!

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16 minutes ago, oneway23 said:

Wow.  This is a shocker to me.  Thanks to Modano for bringing that up.  Sure I've since forgotten reading that, at some point, but, that's fascinating to me.

Agree that it's perhaps not the strongest material, but, it's rare for me to consider Slash & Duff deviating in musical terms.  

They usually seem to be in lockstep, at least publically.

Duff was always more willing to do other kinds of music and much less dismissive of Axl's aspirations and efforts (like My World). I am not saying Slash wasn't into other music genres, too, but less so and even when he did collab on other kinds of projects, he still did that sort of within the borders of his blues-based music, for the most part. So Duff seems to have been willing to go with Axl's visions, the problem was more that Axl wasn't very good at explaining that vision nor making it happen. And with Duff having a family and being sober, and nothing happening with the band, and new guys coming in so that the dynamics had changed, he quit.

Slash never seem to have blamed Duff for agreeing with Axl over the quality of Slash's songs, at least not publicly. Possibly because if Axl had budged, so would Duff, but, I believe, also because it worked out for Slash to put the blame squarely on Axl and his crazy ideas about changing the sound of GN'R, something the media would have no problems accepting as gospel. It took many years before Axl tried correcting the narrative -- moronic of him -- but then it was too late: the media and fans alike agreed that Slash was more or less pushed out of GN'R because he wouldn't adapt to Axl's ideas which never came to fruition anyway!

 

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20 minutes ago, oneway23 said:

Wow.  This is a shocker to me.  Thanks to Modano for bringing that up.  Sure I've since forgotten reading that, at some point, but, that's fascinating to me.

Agree that it's perhaps not the strongest material, but, it's rare for me to consider Slash & Duff deviating in musical terms.  

They usually seem to be in lockstep, at least publically.

Interestingly, Matt also said that, although he played on the Snakepit album, he didn't like the final product much. I read that first in his leaked book and thought that it was just sour grapes because of him not being included in the reunion, but he has actually said that before, in 2002:

As the band fragmented, Matt collaborated with Slash's rejected GNR demos which became Slash's Snakepit, but distanced himself from the finished record. "It sounded a bit dated to me”, he says. Matt stepped aside and was replaced by another drummer for the live shows.

https://www.a-4-d.com/t5361-2002-04-dd-rhythm-magazine-raising-hell-matt#21380

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1 minute ago, axl666 said:

Is there any data out there about well the song is doing, i.e. number of streams, social media buzz etc.? I'd say pure sales would be relatively small.

 

Number 7 on iTunes regular Charts. No.1 on iTunes rock charts I’d say pretty damn good 😁

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4 minutes ago, gavgnr said:

Number 7 on iTunes regular Charts. No.1 on iTunes rock charts I’d say pretty damn good 😁

That's really, REALLY good IMO 

If you would've asked me a week ago if I thought GN'R would sit on the charts next to artists like Ed Sheeran and The Weeknd, I would have had SO many questions for you lol 

I might have even called you absurd. 

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On 8/6/2021 at 4:10 PM, guitarpatch said:

I don’t think people are going to stadium shows to hear new material if it were safe or not. They are there to hear old songs

Maybe GNR doesn’t care if it resonates with them. Maybe they don’t want to play it safe

There's no maybe, they definitely aren't going to safe path😄 If they released Hardskool I might have thought they were playing it safe.

But yeah stadium shows are not for new material but it does help get some media and people talking! And... of the song was popular it's a nice pop at the shows!

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24 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Interestingly, Matt also said that, although he played on the Snakepit album, he didn't like the final product much. I read that first in his leaked book and thought that it was just sour grapes because of him not being included in the reunion, but he has actually said that before, in 2002:

As the band fragmented, Matt collaborated with Slash's rejected GNR demos which became Slash's Snakepit, but distanced himself from the finished record. "It sounded a bit dated to me”, he says. Matt stepped aside and was replaced by another drummer for the live shows.

https://www.a-4-d.com/t5361-2002-04-dd-rhythm-magazine-raising-hell-matt#21380

Also worth noting is that Matt produced a track on Poe's first album around that time (well, a bit later) and Axl is known to be a huge fan of that album, and the song Matt produced especially.

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29 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Interestingly, Matt also said that, although he played on the Snakepit album, he didn't like the final product much. I read that first in his leaked book and thought that it was just sour grapes because of him not being included in the reunion, but he has actually said that before, in 2002:

As the band fragmented, Matt collaborated with Slash's rejected GNR demos which became Slash's Snakepit, but distanced himself from the finished record. "It sounded a bit dated to me”, he says. Matt stepped aside and was replaced by another drummer for the live shows.

https://www.a-4-d.com/t5361-2002-04-dd-rhythm-magazine-raising-hell-matt#21380

Yeah... But I also believe that Matt not liking the final product has to be more with Eric Dover and the way Slash picked Dover without telling him than really with the songs...

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1 minute ago, Beto 22 said:

Yeah... But I also believe that Matt not liking the final product has to be more with Eric Dover and the way Slash picked Dover without telling him than really with the songs...

Yeah, probably.

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4 hours ago, Propaganda said:

I have a question though... If they can do this with their supposedly worst song from the Chinese Democracy era and turn it into an awesome song, imagine what they can do with all the other songs??

:thumbsup:

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If the Its Five O Clock songs would have been the next GNR album after illusions that would definitely have been a step backwards after UYI. I'm not even sure what the band could have released in the mid 90s that would be really successfull. Other bands crashed and burned no matter what they tried in the 90s (Motley Crue). In a way it was best for their legacy in the long run that GNR imploded and skipped that decade and avoided that fate. Now they can come out with whatever didn't happen back then.

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I went and listened to the guitar version of Silkworms with Bumblefoot and thought it was terrible. Barely listenable. I don't understand why some people say that Absurd it's just the Bumblefoot version with Slash.

In any case, although I don't think I want to listen to Absurd again for a while, it's a huge improvement.

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4 hours ago, GoodOlJohnnyK said:

 

Which band have you *been listening to* all these years? Shouting about a parasitic, syphilitic priestess baby with a pussy full of maggots sticks out so much because, honestly, there are a lot of bands who wouldn't even *dare* say that type of shit in today's climate. That's a certain type of ballsy, 'fuck you' swagger that I love from this band.

So to recap:

1. Mean, aggressive sounding punk tune? Check.

2. Axl ranting without a care in the world? Check.

3. Slash shredding away? Check.

 

Yep. They don't give a s****, never had. :headbang:

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36 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

That's really, REALLY good IMO 

If you would've asked me a week ago if I thought GN'R would sit on the charts next to artists like Ed Sheeran and The Weeknd, I would have had SO many questions for you lol 

I might have even called you absurd. 

It also shows that everyone raging that “Silkworms” is the first single with Slash are basically screaming into a vacuum.

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