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1 minute ago, RussTCB said:

It's weird place to be, but at least I'm there with ya. Pull up a chair, I've reserved a table for you. 

Lol! I'm nearly 36 and all my favorite musicians are dinosaurs. "It sucks" has no effect on me anymore.  I'm loving it, and honestly just in awe that Slash morphed Silkworms into a rowdy guitar driven track. 

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On 8/10/2021 at 10:31 PM, Blackstar said:

The riff is just the synth part in the Village discs version played on guitar. It isn't something Bumblefoot came up with.

Kind of. The synth part has a slight different pattern and tempo, even though it's still pretty similar to the riff on the Bumblefoot version (which actually seems like it was reworked first with Bucket and probably Robin). 

2 hours ago, Fozzie Bear said:

I still can’t believe GN’R can’t even cut and paste a song together.  That editing mistake on the first two verses is hysterical. I could mix this song better using Audacity.  Song sucks. 

As many others said, it's not a mistake, obviously. And mixing is different than editing. Audacity sucks for both, though. :P 

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8 minutes ago, GoodOlJohnnyK said:

Posted this in the Fargo thread, but also posting it here because I think the sentiment is relevant here as well:

 

The internet has done a lot of good, and it's done a lot of bad. But one of the worst things it's done is produce toxic fandom. 

Unfettered access to their favorite artists, alongside likeminded people across the world who gather together in forums and on social media, has turned people into savage little entitled beasts. There's a lot things blown out of proportion, a lot of conjecture and, primarily, a fundamental misunderstanding as to what's going on here and who is owed what. Let me clear it up:

This is a rock n' roll band and no one is owed anything.

Think about that. Axl Rose is a 59 year old man playing in a rock n' roll band with his buddies and playing music he finds interesting. If it's not to your liking, then that's fine. I don't like everything a band (or this band in particular) releases either. But I take it for what it is: a guy wrote a song that I don't like. He's not forcing me to buy it. He's not tainting my childhood memories. He's not taking money from me. He can't possibly ruin something I love, because it's *NOT MINE.* It's his! 

Think about any other business - a restaurant, for example. If they change the menu and I don't like it...no one cares. I don't get on an internet message board and call the chef a fat cunt who is lazy and doesn't care about his clientele (and if I did, I'd be *INSANE*). If enough people agree with me, then business will slow, and the restaurant will either make a decision to change or fold up. But, if I don't like the new menu, but thousands and thousands of other people do...then it's just time for me to admit that the world doesn't revolve around me and to find a new restaurant.

"Absurd is just Silkworms, a 20 year old song that sucks! It's not even new!" - Not new to you. The overwhelming majority of music fans haven't fucking heard the Village Sessions. They didn't get on YouTube to check out Silkworms at Rock In Rio 20 years ago. How ironic that the fanbase of a band whose hit power ballad "November Rain" was written 8-9 years before it's release is complaining that they're releasing an 'old' song.

With regards to his live performances: "well he doesn't care and he's ripping the fans off." No. Perhaps, and this might shock some of you, he's doing his best and this is the best he can do right now. Maybe his voice just isn't there right now. Here's the misunderstanding: when you buy a concert ticket, you are not buying a ticket to a flawless performance. You are buying a ticket to see the performer, as they are, performing the songs the way they want to perform them. That's what they're selling - a live take on their music. Whether you find the quality sufficient enough is irrelevant - if you don't like the performance, don't buy a ticket. Your money will talk. If you choose to spend money and buy a ticket and Axl's voice isn't to your liking then, honestly, it's no different than "I ordered the steak and it wasn't as good as I'd like."

"Well he's not in as good shape as he could be/he needs to try harder." He doesn't have to do anything. Again - you're buying a ticket for Guns N' Roses *as they are.* I used to bartend full time. Now I bartend one night a week. I *could* take the time and still practice making cocktails, or learning new ones, and continue to hone my craft. But, honestly, I don't want to. I know enough to do my job. People still show up to the bar and have a good time. And if people don't like that, then, frankly, they can find another bar. Same thing goes with the Guns shows. By the way - for all the vocal geniuses on here who swore that Axl's weight was impacting his vocal performance - he's in better shape now than he was for the Axl DC and 2016 shows, but his voice isn't. So next time some genius tells you that Axl would sound better if he spent his life crushing chicken and broccoli and on the treadmill, remember that.

"The setlists are too static, this is the same old boring show we've seen" - it's the same old boring show *you've* seen because we're diehards on a fan message board who follow every show. The amount of 'us' in the audience night-to-night is so miniscule it would shock you. The average concert goer at a Guns N' Roses show is someone who likes their music - probably from the first few albums - and just wants to see a rock show. They don't care if Guns played the same set in Hershey as they did in Fenway - they're experiencing the show for the first time. Or if it's not their first time, they're going to see the show because it's not about hearing all fresh material - it's about the live experience, hearing the songs live, watching the band perform them, and just feeling the vibe. Great songs don't depreciate over time - that's why we're here listening to songs from 1987 still. 

If I go see Hamilton on Broadway and then, two years later, I see it when it's touring DC, I don't complain because they didn't write a new third act. I'm not complaining if Lin Manuel Miranda doesn't sing quite as well as he did in New York. I'm there to experience that show.

I also get the impression from reading these boards that quite a bit of fans who post here are in their teens or 20s, which is honestly pretty cool. Some of you have mentioned that you got into the band after Chinese Democracy, which is pleasantly surprising to me. Unfortunately, a lot of you clamoring for new music don't get that this band is firmly a legacy act at this point: they could release the greatest album of the last 30 years and the world will collectively shrug and say "it's not bad...now play Sweet Child O' Mine."

We, the diehard fans, want to hear Hard School and any other new tunes the band might have. Just understand that, when they pull it out, 85-90% of the crowd isn't going to give a flying fuck. Of those 85-90%, if the band can get maybe 10-20% of them to be interested enough to check out the new material, then that's a win. That's the reality here. So when you're bitching about how the band doesn't give a fuck about its fans, understand that you're likely incorrect: they give a fuck about the majority of the fans there to see the show. That's why they're playing the hits. That's why This I Love and Coma and Locomotive are expendable but You Could Be Mine and Nightrain are untouchable. They know their audience.

"Team Brazil are evil/incompetent." You don't know these people. I'll say it again: YOU DON'T KNOW THEM. At all! I don't give a shit what Beta posts on Instagram - you don't know her! She might be the root of all evil. She might be just a sweet woman who cares for Axl Rose. I don't know! And I don't care because I'll *never* know. And it doesn't impact me one bit. I don't have to have lunch with Beta or Fernando. Axl probably does and, after all this time, I think it's pretty safe to say that he likes them and that's really all that matters. He's their boss and, if he's satisfied with their work (the NITL is one of the most profitable tours of all time so I don't know if 'incompetent' is the word I'd use), then that's all that matters. But I get on Instagram, and on these forums, and I read people calling Beta and Fernando cunts and manipulators and all other types of vile shit. When in reality they're just two people trying to do a fucking job like anyone else and, again, it's only fucking rock n' roll. 

"This band has done nothing in the studio." Again - despite what anybody here tells you, nobody knows shit. No one is an insider. People can speculate to their heart's desire, but you don't know if Axl has been in a studio. You don't know what's been done. You don't know if they have a backlog of material or if they have nothing. We have some leaked sessions from twenty years ago. That's the extent of it. Anyone who tells you otherwise - like that guy who leaked the Village Sessions and just seems to spend all his time trolling Team Brazil on Instagram - is insane.

This band is no different than, say, the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Have we been emotionally invested in it for quite some time? Yes. Do some of the movies suck every once in a while? Sure. But that doesn't make Kevin Feige a lying thief who doesn't care about his fanbase. Everyone needs to just calm down.

yeah for sure man all of the above fuck it 

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13 hours ago, Tom-Ass said:

Was watching a few vids from Detroit on youtube and this one popped up on shuffle.. I tried to give it a shot and it is still so bad.. 

The riff is so boring.. If you can call it a riff.. The dubbed it screams sound awful.. The fact that he just sings the same verse 3 times almost doesn't qualify it as a song.. The industrial slow part is abysmal.. That part should have been 100% re-written..

The only bright spot is the melody of the verse I guess and I don't hate the lyrics.. I got some enjoyment out of the hand gesture he made while saying "Pussy full of maggots" as well..

Just a perplexing attempt at a comeback song...

There’s actually 2 different verses. I wonder if they used that 2nd verse the second time through if it would break it up a bit, or does that kind of kill the vibe they were going for?  
 

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Discussing the band isn't what I'm objecting to.

It's just that some of the arguments get oddly personal. 

"Eh, Axl isn't sounding good," is one thing. "Axl isn't sounding good because he doesn't care and he's fat and he needs to quit, but all he and TB care about is money and fucking over the fans," is another.

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5 minutes ago, GoodOlJohnnyK said:

Discussing the band isn't what I'm objecting to.

It's just that some of the arguments get oddly personal. 

"Eh, Axl isn't sounding good," is one thing. "Axl isn't sounding good because he doesn't care and he's fat and he needs to quit, but all he and TB care about is money and fucking over the fans," is another.

Right but that's the nature of a free discussion. 

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26 minutes ago, GoodOlJohnnyK said:

Discussing the band isn't what I'm objecting to.

It's just that some of the arguments get oddly personal. 

"Eh, Axl isn't sounding good," is one thing. "Axl isn't sounding good because he doesn't care and he's fat and he needs to quit, but all he and TB care about is money and fucking over the fans," is another.

But Axl isn't sounding good because he doesn't care and he's fat and he needs to quit, but all he and TB care about is money and fucking over the fans,

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18 minutes ago, Tonyp44 said:

I dunno I kindda dig it. I enjoyed it live and it does pack a punch when listening to it in the car. I'll take any "new" music so my bar is pretty low. 

Blasting it in the car directly lead to me changing my mind on it. Maybe I should have blasted Silkworms in the car 20 years ago? Nah.....lol

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8 minutes ago, Top-Hatted One said:

I miss the old chorus but at least I can single along to Slash playing the hook on guitar. 
 

if only Axl came up with something more interesting than repeating Absurd. The song would be a lil better received 

At this point that's pretty much my only gripe with the song - the repetition. Even with its "pussy full of maggots" I'd be more into three different verses instead of the same one over and over.

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